Game 66: The new guys aren’t half bad

March 3, 2018, by

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The Rangers are in Edmonton tonight to wrap up their west coast swing against the Oilers. For those hoping to fuel the tank, the Rangers have picked up a few points since the deadline, so there goes that. For those hoping to see the Rangers sneak back into the race, it isn’t happening, but hey there’s always hope.

Ryan Spooner and Vladislav Namestnikov are playing well. But that’s about it. The team is still allowing 50 shots a game, and if not for Henrik Lundqvist, would have lost the past two games. It’s safe to assume the goaltending won’t continue to carry the team, so unless the 50 shots thing stops, don’t expect wins.

Oilers Systems

Todd McLellan had his Oilers mostly running an aggressive 2-1-2 forecheck, mixing in some 1-2-2 depending on game situation. In the defensive zone schemes they overload the boards and play zone defense when the puck is at the points or down low. The power play is a 1-3-1 and their penalty kill formations are a hybrid (depends on puck location/opposition setup).

Oilers Lines

Milan Lucic-Connor McDavid-Leon Draisaitl
Mike Cammalleri-Ryan Nugent-Hopkins-Pontus Aberg
Jesse Puljujarvi-Ryan Strome-Anton Slepyshev
Iiro Pakarinen-Jujhar Khaira-Zack Kassian

Darnell Nurse-Kris Russell
Oscar Klefbom-Matthew Benning
Andrej Sekera-Eric Bear

PP1: McDavid–Lucic-Draisaitl-Strome-Klefbom
PP2: Strome-Cammalleri-Puljujarvi-RNH-Sekera

Cam Talbot gets the start.

Rangers Lines 

Chris KreiderMika ZibanejadPavel Buchnevich
Ryan Spooner-Kevin HayesJesper Fast
Jimmy Vesey-Vladislav Namestnikov-Mats Zuccarello
Paul CareyPeter Holland-Cody McLeod

Brady SkjeiJohn Gilmour
Marc StaalNeal Pionk
Rob O’Gara-Tony DeAngelo

PP1: Kreider-Zuccarello-Zibanejad-Buchnevich-Skjei
PP2: Vesey-Holland-Namestnikov-Hayes-Gilmour

Alex Georgiev gets the start.

Scratches/Injuries: Kevin Shattenkirk (knee), Ondrej Pavelec (knee), Steven Kampfer (hand), David Desharnais (healthy)

Crazy Prediction: Fewer than 50 shots allowed.

Game time is 10:30pm. Be sure to follow on our Snapchat for in-game shenanigans.

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  1. Mikeyyy says:

    Just give av some time he will have the new guys second guessing themselves as well and their play will drop off.

    Maybe bench them when they are on the ice for a goal.

    This cat has got to go , I rather have ruff coach the season out vs av continuing.

  2. RagsFan says:

    Yup…50 shots allowed is ridiculous. Makes our coaching staff look like a bunch of rookies. Can we demote the entire coaching staff to the ECHL?

  3. Bloomer says:

    Kreds finally buries ones. Rangers all over the oil.

  4. Leatherneck says:

    this is insane….every team is tanking….and we are going to go on a winning streak? possibly get into the playoffs…..scratching my head in their thinking

    • tanto says:

      “Their” thinking is that they are players with some pride. The Players want to win, want to play well … they will not conform to your personal agenda or the agenda of the organization.

  5. Leatherneck says:

    I mean WTF…McLeod scores

  6. Leatherneck says:

    Rangers are ass backwards….need to win we lose….need to lose we win….ughhhh man…..This team is still cursed by the Americans

    I am getting really pissed

  7. tanto says:

    Believe it or not, there’s some pride in that locker room.

    • Leatherneck says:

      I mentioned pride could be a determent….we get into playoffs and every opportunity to maximize our draft picks goes out the window and this is bad for the overall war…win a battle to end up losing the war….is still defeat

      the insanity will continue and round and round the circle we’ll continue to go

      just dumb thinking

      • Leatherneck says:

        and we ain’t gonna win the cup should we get in…probably a sweep in series defeat….I am really irritated….lol

      • tanto says:

        No, it isn’t dumb … they are individuals with pride in their work. There are young kids playing for future ice time. They don’t have the same priorities that you do in this situation. In any event don’t worry, as soon as they play a real team they’ll get back to losing — hopefully with some grace. We didn’t exactly go on a west coast trip and beat Anaheim, San Jose and Winnipeg.

        • Mintgecko says:

          Hank, Hayes and Fast were apart of that Presidents trophy winner team. Imo Staal was useless by then and was getting outplayed by Boyle and Klein. The other 3 were main cog’s to that team so a type of pride has to set in that there better than this.

          The Canadian road trip is always tough on East coast teams, the elevation has been known to throw teams off. Hayes always dominates so it’s a good sign to see him continue with that. Imo this team can hold on and either lead the pack to W2 or be in a better spot in the standings. That will be enough time to bring in help and add dynamics to the teams with Shatty, Chytil, Andersson and Belesky.

  8. Leatherneck says:

    lol…this has to be….no is the 1st time I’ve been irritated over winning a game and going on a winning streak….comical

  9. Leatherneck says:

    I’m telling you Edmonton…tanked this game….I am convinced of that

  10. Leatherneck says:

    I am happy for Georgiev though….he’ll be the back up next year

  11. Joen7 says:

    The kid was good in net in his first 2 games and tonight he gets a win nice to see. Yes we are hurting the draft position, but you can’t ask the guys on the ice to tank they are giving an effort.

  12. agentsmith says:

    the jets “pride” likely cost them mariota . now they are going to sign kirk cousins to a 100m contract. I cant take the mediocrity around here anymore.

    I don’t think they sold enough or correctly. like why get perhaps better players back?

    • Rich S says:

      100% correct!!!!!!!! Again, this team/organization cant do anything right!!!!!! If they had brought up the younger, more mobile defensemen earlier this year, and sumped AV……….we wouldnt have had to disassemble this team for ??? second tier prospects and players…….

  13. Richter1994 says:


    • Richter1994 says:

      Looking at the reactions of my posts today, I guess I am not a fave and the anit-George Costanza by not going out on top, lol.

      Folks, them winning some games and ruining their draft position does no one any good whatsoever.

      And those thinking that they are making the playoffs, and even if they do, and contending have to sit back an breath.

      ‘But they won 3 in a row…” What evs. I want a top 5 pick.

      • Leatherneck says:


        2 steps forward 2 steps forward….no more 1 step forward 2 steps back

      • Rich S says:

        This is the most frustrating team to root for and its all thanks to dolan, sather , av and gorton…….
        Cant do anything right………now that it would benefit us to lose……they bring up a bunch of young , mobile d-men……WHICH many of us wanted them to do since preseason……..and team dynamics change…..WHY didnt they do this in sept????????
        Again……sit kreider, sit deangelo, sit buch, sit sjkei, sit zib……..they all need rest………and bring up the worst goalie we have in the entire organization……….and half the wolfpack……
        Guaranteed we miss out on an elite player by 1 point/draft position!!!!

        • Richter1994 says:

          Rich, I just want a top 5 pick or at least no more than 7th. If we get that, then we get a high impact player who may even be close to NHL ready.

          Like Wyatt Earp says, “It won’t matter what happens after that…”

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      Theres no H in TANK !

  14. Richter1994 says:

    So I just did an Armchair GM roster for 2018-19 and here’s what I came up with:

    Sign Hayes, Spooner, Nemer, and re-sign Nash for $4M per each.
    Sign Kovy for $3M per base plus bonuses and re-sign Skjei for $3M.
    Re-sign Gilmour for $1M.
    Buyout Staal and Smith.
    Sign Carlson for $6M per.
    Trade Hayes, DeAngelo, and a first for Draisaitl.
    Bring up Chytil and Andersson.



    All more than fits under an $82M cap. Who says no?

    • agentsmith says:

      way too many martinis over night

      • Richter1994 says:

        Not only does this work cap wise, but it’s do able. Give the Oilers the 2 firsts that we got from Boston and TB.

        McDavid’s $12.5M contract kicks in next year. After taking a big gulp they will look to trade the $8.5M per Draisaitl. The Rangers will come calling.

        And they will know this before July 1st, the date that Tavares has to make a decision.

        • Fotiu is God says:

          Richter, uh, I mean R.P. McMurphy: you need to get in line for your medicine.

          Oilers aren’t trading McJesus’s best friend, no matter how medicated, or estranged from reality you are.

          Dude, Draisaitl and Nurse play video games at McDavid’s place. The aforementioned are the three young pillars of that franchise.

          Now pass the ball to Chief, McRichter.

      • Fotiu is God says:

        Agent, is there a Twelve Step Plan, or set of treatment principles for what Richter’s displaying? He think’s he’s Trader Phil now.

        I mean, what course of action, what modalities are available to us?

        If we get him into recovery, will BSB cover his meds, the cost of a facility?

    • Odielicious says:

      You have a much better pulse on the team then most on here. Can we even buyout Staal and Smith? Isn’t there a maximum? And right now we have 2 on the books in G, and Richards. Couldn’t remember richards name. Was having a senior moment.

      • Richter1994 says:

        I think you can 2 per year. But I do not know if there is a maximum that you can carry. Trade them, just do anything to get rid of them.

        • Odielicious says:

          No detail on how many buyouts are allowed. Just seems like if you can afford them on your cap you can buyout everyone. But there is a restriction on when you can do it. And the player has to be placed on waivers first.

          • Richter1994 says:

            In my projected roster, I did it through Cap Friendly and with an $82M cap, that roster more than fits.

    • EZ Rider says:

      We’ll do fine without Nash.

      • Richter1994 says:

        And who is scoring 20+ goals on this team as it stands now? Kreider, Zib, Nemer, and ????? I don’t know that Zuc scores 20. Or Buch.

      • Fotiu is God says:

        No EZ, this behavior of Richter, his bizarre, increasingly counterintuitive posts if not The Rick Nash Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (or RNOCD) is deeply troubling on too many levels.

        The only option before us is to stage a PSYCHOLOGICAL-PSYCHOSOCIAL INTERVENTION.

        Clearly, given his cognitive dissonance Anthony’s not able to get Self Help.

        Graciously, Swarty’s offered to act as Case Worker/Counsellor.

        Rider, do have any experience administering Electroshock Therapy?

        Now someone needs to arrive at Anthony’s home; remove all manner of Rick Nash memorabilia, the alter, the posters.

        Above all, though, the Rick Nash bobblehead seems to trigger his worst symptoms.

    • Rich S says:

      First order of business must be to dispose of AV and Sather and gorton…….

  15. Odielicious says:

    This whole winning thing is on the front office. When you decided to rebuild and embrace the tank…you needed to fire the coach. Not for the reasons everyone wants him gone for, but just so things are even more effed up on the ice. And I am fan of AV’s..I don’t think he is as bad as everyone thinks he is. But for the reasons of a higher draft position the front office effed up again.

    I am with Leather in that the oilers tanked that game on purpose or at least talbot did. Cam is a good puck handler and no way he shoots it over the glass to give us a power play. He has a ton of reasons to do so, but no way he made that mistake at that point in the game. If that was hank ok, but not him. And that 2 many men on the ice penalty is totally on talbot. he should have been off the ice way before that play was called dead.

    Aside from that I am impressed with DeAngelo. He is looking good. Matter of fact I am impressed with all of them except O’gara. O’gara’s strength is his only nhl ready skill. He can’t skate and looks lost out there most of the time but has a heavy shot and can out muscle guys in the corners. I don’t know how Staal and Pionk ended up with the most ice time …I am guessing their ice time got inflated toward the end when they probably got stuck on the ice a few times. Gilmour looks like his offensive side can be really high. I think if he bulks up he could make the team next year. Pionk wasn’t noticeable last night but that is a good thing. That means he is playing smart and consistent. I didn’t watch the highlights to see him on McDavid’s goal and his assist…that just seemed to me like Staal was to slow cause ..McDavid was staal’s assignment all night.

    But as fans’…I just think this 3 bad teams with mostly regulars who are in the dog days of the season and just want it to end. I think 90% of the remaining games for us are against teams headed to the playoffs. So lets talk after the winning win 3 in a row against those type of teams.

  16. Bobby B says:

    I too realize that pride is something you need to bring to the table in any professional sport. That being said, you do not blow up the ship, write a letter to your fan base, and then go all out to win these meaningless games. It makes the ultimate goal ( being able to cherry pick the better talent through higher draft position) impossible. Then again it is the Rangers being the Rangers. I too am on board that you do not blow it up and keep your head coach .AV needed to be axed at the trade deadline. The same coach who tally’s up impressive regular season points , but tanks in the playoff’s, the same coach who could not find a spot for Eric Staal ( 31 goals this year, and we gave up a whole bunch to rent him for a month) needs to be shown the door, and let it hit him in the wherever it pleases.

    • tanto says:

      The players didn’t write the letter, they say f you.

    • Rich S says:

      Bobby B…….
      ”’ Then again it is the Rangers being the Rangers. ”’GREAT LINE !!!!!
      E. Staal 31 goals……27 last year before injury…..
      A. Strallman….leads all D-men in +/- for past 3 years

      NOW we will watch nash or miller and mcdonagh win a cup……..
      OR maybe Vegas……been around less than a year!!!!!!!!!
      Evander Kane to sharks…for conditional #1 and #4…….he would have looked great in rangers uniform!!!!!!!!!
      Amazing Bobby ….we traded away Miller..hardest hitter on team since stallberg left……..for guy 180 pounds…….we just keep getting smaller and softer…….

      • Bobby B says:

        Rich S, You & I have always been on the same page, with the need for size and strength, grit and toughness. The reason why we lost the 2014 Cup was that the KINGS ( bigger/stronger/nastier team) pounded our smaller speedsters into being small and slow. Throw in the fact that our best player Rick Nash was invisible, and that their goalie ( Quick outplayed Hank that series) was better. Trading Miller has me really scratching my head, the one player who has a great all around game( He has yest to reach his potential, but he will now, with Cooper as his coach) and plays a hard nasty game is gone. The guy took on the Man Mountain Shea Webber, during last years series against the Canadians ,because he felt Webber was taking advantage of his smaller teammates. I guess his fate was sealed right after that, AV must have immediately sent a memo to Gorton, we need to trade Miller, how dare he fight someone in a playoff game!!

  17. Mancunian Candidate says:

    Anybody who plays sports to tank is a loser. Anybody who’s good enough to reach the NHL will be far too competitive psychologically to lose on purpose.

    And there’s another phrase to describe athletes who lose on purpose: guys who act on the behest of gamblers. Which is a criminal act.

    • Walt says:

      Tell that to the Penguins twice when Mario Le Wimp, and Cindy & Malkin got drafted by them for that very reason…………..

      • Mancunian Candidate says:

        Tell it to Buffalo when they got burned tanking for McDavid. Losing is a bad habit to pick up if you’re an athlete.

        • Walt says:

          Except there are plenty of outstanding picks to be had this time around, in multiple rounds, not just the first three picks or so!!!!!! Besides Eichel isn’t too bad don’t you think????????? I’d be more than happy with him on my team as our #1 C………

          • Bobby B says:

            Walt, your words of wisdom and reason ring loud and clear!!! As an elder statesman of this site, You have suffered long enough, ONE CUP IN 78 YEARS!! UNACCEPTABLE!!!!

            • Walt says:

              Hey Bobby I don’t know if I should accept that as a complement, the age thing, LMAO!!!!!!!!

  18. Dan says:

    I’ve embraced the tank. I’m okay with losing and getting a higher draft position but they’re professionals, no one is going to lose on purpose (unless you’re in the NBA and you need to rest because you’re tired from playing two days in a row lol). And it’s refreshing to see these guys play hard and not give a half a$$ effort like they have been for practically the whole year.

    The way they responded since the deadline (albeit the shots against are high as hell), makes you think … 1. how dysfunctional that locker room was prior to last week. 2. Who is emerging as the lead voices in the locker room right now? Someone is saying something to get these guys going (at least the last 3 games). I dunno if we’ll pull this off against Winnipeg and Pittsburgh Tuesday and Thursday.

    For me … this is kinda fun, we’re loaded with draft picks, we’ve got some good prospects and re-stocked the farm. I never thought we’d get into the top 3 or 4. It’s just not feasible. The teams below us are so far behind, it’s impossible to drop that far.

    We’ve all been saying to see what we have with these kids, let’s do it.

  19. Leatherneck says:

    Wait for it…..Wait for it…..another 54 years in between cups

    another elite goalie will join our ranks but won’t get over the hump

    I don’t want one cup in between 50 years….I want 2/3 cups in 10 years

    I am telling you….Ottawa….Islanders….Detroit….Blackhawks are playing for draft position

    Islanders with 2 picks possibly 1 in the top 5 and the other 10-12 have just as good a shot at the Lottery as does the lottery leader

    the Rangers approach to success is wrong…and has data to prove it

    You are driving….you get challenged to a race by a kid in the streets….you can race but is this risk worth it to race right then and there? Unsafe conditions and hazards, regretful events at incredibly high odds….you gonna let your pride dictate or your intelligence?

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      The Isles get it,they came out and were playing pretty good for a minute there.Lightbulb went off and they slid down the standings(plus they have no goalie unless they are playing the Rangers!)

      • Leatherneck says:

        hunch is….Tavares told them he ain’t signing with them

        • Rich S says:

          Leather and Sievequist……
          You two got me rolling!!!!!!
          ”Wait for it…..Wait for it…..another 54 years in between cups”
          ”(plus they have no goalie unless they are playing the Rangers!)”
          IF we dont tank and get a top 5 pick….then we gave away Miller and McDonagh for squat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
          How great would it be if vegas wins a cup?????
          Lets give sather another 18 years to try!!!!!

  20. Leatherneck says:

    Draft…I am envisioning Ryan Merkley, Akil Thomas, Benoit Olivier-Groulx…Jacob Olofsson…Cole Fonstad….becoming our picks

    Embrace the smurfs….the sheep in wolves clothing

    It’s getting really hard to be optimistic

    I’ve seen too many deja vu’s to not get alarmed

  21. lv says:

    That ship has sailed with no cup to show. We need to move past ‘wanting’ Nash back. Need a change to different players. Many many upcoming young guys we could get in a trade to help us get to the cup and have upside in front of them. Please, not Nash.

    • Walt says:

      Especially at $4 mil, and three years!!!

      • Richter1994 says:

        Like I said bro, and who is scoring 20+ goals?

        The man will get 20+ goals, 40+ pts, PK, play on the PP and lend some vet leadership.

        Put him on the 3rd line where he creates mismatches for opponents and the 3 year, $12M contract will be more than worth it.

        I guess we’re starting to see the under appreciation for this guy. The Rangers did not win a Cup, but based on what Nash has had around him, he still performed well. I know, the playoffs, I get it, but the Rangers have 2 players to thank during this “run,” Henrik and Rick.

        • Walt says:


          It’s not an under appreciation of Nash, I like the job he does, but we are on a youth movement and this takes a spot away from a kid. We aren’t going to win a cup next year, so why waist time, and opportunity for a kid!!!!!!!!!

          • Richter1994 says:

            See the line up I posted above? Read it and remember it.

            It may not end up that way but it will look something like that.

            They will not go all young players. If they do, then I will take you to a very nice dinner. Deal? (You have no risk, lol).

          • Rich S says:

            Younger doesnt always translate into BETTER…..
            Of the 10 oldest teams in the nhl before the trades, 8 are currently in playoff position …yet only 4 of the youngest 10 teams are in a playoff position…..
            What does that tell us?
            Being younger doesnt help!!!!!
            Talent and skill and coaching and management do!!!!

            • Walt says:

              It tells us that we had a piss poor coach.
              It tells us that some of those same teams will be where we were next year, or soon there after.
              It tells us that if done right, we’ll be winning for a darn long time.
              What else would you like to know how to go out and get retreads again, and pay thru the nose, and win a cup every 78 years.
              No thank you, been down that road for tooooooooooooo long, and it’s time to pivot!!!!!

        • Rich S says:

          With a good coach…..vesey gets 20+ easy!!!
          Kreider, buch, hayes and zib……will get 20+
          AND grabner, miller and nash……….would have but they were replaced by ??????? numerous second tier prospects……
          Nash has looked pretty good in boston as has miller in tampa!!!!

        • Playground 9 says:

          Hayes is going to get 20 and is our best center at the moment and you want to trade him??? I have bought in big time… I don’t miss Nash, Miller or MacDonough. I am all in on building a new team. Lets pick wisely – get Wahlstrom and/or Tkachuk. Let’s get some size. Namestnikov is a solid two way center. We need at least one more solid center that will get in front of the net. Stop with Kovy already.

    • Agentsmith says:

      That should include zuccarello too. Do we need to see him shooting 40 ft puffers on the pp?

      New core, new identity needed.

  22. Jerry says:

    AV should have been fired the day the letter went out from Ranger management.

    • Richter1994 says:

      Bro, I was on the “let Ranger management take over the coaching duties for the rest of the year” bandwagon.

      I’m sure AV is taking full credit for the last 3 games, even though the Rangers gave up almost 150 SOG during those same 3 games.

  23. Joen7 says:

    First off the players are not going to tank on any team. Second we have no chance of making the playoffs. We would just about need to go 15 and 1 to climb over the teams ahead of us.

    I’m hoping they can bundle the picks they have to move to the top of the draft.

    What would it take to move to the top of the draft?

  24. Richter1994 says:

    To the Nash doubters:

    Rangers’ career: 375 regular season games, 145 goals, which is goal scoring at an almost 40% of the games pace.

    Boston career: 4 games, 2 goals, 1 assist, and 23 SOG. It takes the average Ranger 3 times as many games to get that many SOG.

    No, I can’t let it go.

    • Jerry says:


      Nash was the best forward on the Rangers this year.

      He is an EXCELLENT role model for our up and coming kids.
      He is versatile playing a GREAT two way game.
      He plays in ALL situations
      He never takes a night off
      He can still score some
      For the right money, sign him.
      But the $ MUST make sense. I stress the $ MUST MAKE SENSE.

      • Richter1994 says:

        3 years, $12M, and he’s on the Rangers’ 3rd line.

        What’s the problem? 4 games with the Bees on their 3rd line and he has 2 goals, 1 assist, and 23 SOG. TWENTY THREE shots on goal.

        It takes the average Ranger 12 games to get that many.

        JT Miller, one of the Rangers top scorers had less than 100 SOG this year before he left.

        I agree, not a top role for Nash, but secondary role on the 3rd line for a discounted contract? Yes please.

        • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

          Nash already got his payday with us,make him leave more on the table. 3M ,3 year deal then yeah.Maybe with somebody other then AV he may produce a little more.He’s only gonna get a little slower.

          • Richter1994 says:

            $3M, $4M per, what difference does it make? He will put p 40+ pts per year which will justify the contract by itself.

    • tanto says:

      Actually it’s Grabner I want to sign even more so than Nash, although Nash at the right place isn’t the worst thing we could do. If we’re going this route, than the 4th line has to go and be replaced with young kids and you’ll need a coach that spreads out the ice time.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Nash is 100 times a better player than Grabner. Not even close.

        And, I think that Grabner gets a contract that the Rangers should not pay.

        I love Grabner but a third of his goals are empty netters. And he gets no assists, which means he really does not drive plays.

        He’s a fast guy that creates one on one opportunities but not for his linemates like Nash does.

        All IMO.

        • tanto says:

          I never suggested otherwise. Do you just like to disagree for the sake of disagreeing? This isn’t about Nash versus Grabner or vice versa, I want to sign Grabner to a multi-year contract because I believe he can maintain his physical strength and skating for at least another 3-4 years. Also since you’re so fond of statistics, tell me where he stands in terms of even strength goals over the course of the last 2 years.

          Grabner provided a considerable portion of our even strength scoring, he was one of our best penalty killers and after years of seeing the Rangers struggle in the last minute or two to even score an empty netter, I welcome them and they do wonders for the hearts of fans — and I mean the heart itself, physically. 😉

          • Richter1994 says:

            No I don’t disagree just to disagree. Is it possible that I misread what you were saying? I apologize if I did.

            There’s too many that post to disagree that don’t tell you why. At least I try to back up what I say.

            I love what Grabner did here. Probably one of the best values the Rangers have had in a long time. He does have a powerful skating stride to sustain him for a few more years.

            Bt are you will to pay $4M per for him? That’s what it may take. For that $$ I would rather have Nash, again, my opinion. 🙂

            • tanto says:

              Given the rebuild and the plethora of ELCs we would have, then yes I might consider close to $4m per — thing is I don’t think $4m gets you Nash. Someone will offer him $5-6m per. I love Nash, don’t get me wrong … but Grabs will be cheaper and last longer (he is after all years younger than Nash and a specimen to rival Kreids). All that said, if the room exists for Nash as well then I would welcome both back. We just can’t go around carrying guys like DD, Holland, McLeod and sorry to say Carey. That’s where the kids come in if you have a coach willing to run 4 lines.

              Should also add that it never hurts to have a few vets that can be sold at the deadline if you’re not in a playoff position, we just can’t let them block the youth that is ready to play (despite their occasional mistakes) in the NHL.

  25. Flatbush says:

    Tanking! Can’t believe anyone who thinks these players, who are fighting to stay in the NHL, would tank. Lets not get excited with these 3 wins, all against teams that are not near the cream. Look at the rest of this months schedule. Maybe 13 games left and we will be back to losing. Lucky to win 4 games.

  26. Spozo says:

    The irony that the same people that are pissed the Rangers aren’t losing games on purpose are the same ones who were so excited to see the kids called up in order to see what they had.

    Tell that 20 year old trying to make the NHL full time next year that he should be losing these games on purpose.

    • Richter1994 says:

      I don’t want them to lose on purpose, I want them to lose naturally.

      Tell me what good it does for them to win games and pick past the 10th pick again.

      They can play hard and lose, lol.

      • Walt says:

        Thanks you Tony!!!!!! Too challenging to comprehend, but again this is a very deep draft, and quality could be gotten in rounds two, and three, so why not get a better shot at them???????

        As for tanking, I’ve posted on many occasions how I despise what Pittsburgh did twice when there were generational players coming up, they did a swan dive, got both, and have five cups for it. We play by the rules, and have one cup in the last 78 years. What’s wrong with this picture?????? Embrace the dive……

        • Richter1994 says:

          It serves no purpose Walt, to win a few games.

          Trust me, I PAY FOR MY TICKETS and go to the games. I do not root against them, for sure, but it serves zero purpose to be a .500 team the rest of the way.

          • Walt says:


            Now that’s a thinking man’s response, got to love your thought pro-cess!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • tanto says:

        Moral relativism … if you lose you lose, if they play well enough to win then so be it regardless of the result. Tanking is detrimental to the health of one’s soul.

        The Rangers have a reputation throughout the league as a class organization, being classy excludes the possibility of purposely tanking.

        • Spozo says:

          I’ve come to realize some people around here will just complain and whine.

          Likes it’s a bad thing that the kids are playing well enough to win some games months after nonstop complaining about how the coach won’t give any kids a chance with major playing time.

          Likes it’s a bad thing we are seeing we have a capable backup until Igor arrives in a couple season?

          Would I be happy if they lost every game for the rest of the season and ended up with the best chance to get Dahlin? Sure. But do I think it was ever realistic that they would lose enough to have a legit show at winning the lottery? Nope. Am I going to get my panties in a bunch over a 3 game winning streak? Nope.

          • Richter1994 says:

            Spozo, I’m not whining. They gave up almost 150 SOG in the 3 games they won. That’s playing well? Or did the goalies steal the 3 games?

            Don’t confuse wins with playing well. So when they don’t make the playoffs but win just enough to pick 12th then I guess we should be happy.

            I never, ever implied that they should play to lose, I just expected it to happen based on the tearing down of the team. If the Rangers dominated those 3 games then I see the point of the wins. But getting outshot 2-1 and outplayed yet winning the games does nothing for me.

            But I will be there at MSG for the rest of the home games this year.

    • Jeff says:

      Spozo….. right on! can’t lose for winning or is that visa versa?
      All the players traded should be in the rear view mirror! Why would anyone want those guys back? 34 year old 3rd liner? Haven’t the NYR overpaid for years on aging over the hill guys at the expense of youth?
      What a s–t example for new guys! Bye By AV. Good health and fortune to you (no sarcasm here) its time.
      Forward! JG will find the scorer and make the move (if not already done) for the D and get the next bench guy who will hopefully get to pick his crew.
      Keep your powder dry boys, in seven months you’ll see some really good stuff.

  27. Richter1994 says:

    John Paddock for next Ranger coach? A little old (63) but currently coaching Hajek in juniors, been head coach of Hartford, been a coach in the NHL, and has an over .500 record every where he has been.

    Mix of young and vet player coaching experience and former Ranger org employee.

    Considering the Rangers will have a mix of young and vets next year, might be a good fit?

  28. Richter1994 says:

    I obviously did not convey in an articulate way what is best for the team and their fans in the long run.

    I apologize to the BSB community.

  29. Peter says:

    Except for the McDavid goal, on which he probably thought that no human could possibly hit the net from that angle with DeAngelo all over him, the young goalie played a stellar game again. He looks like a NHL goalie to me. Doesn’t get flustered and is always in position. Benny has taught him well.