Irresponsible Rumormongering

Analyzing potential trade suitors for Tony DeAngelo

As the Rangers look to trade Tony DeAngelo, Darren Dreger noted that there is significant interest. This makes sense, since teams feel they can get him for pennies on the dollar in a trade. This is likely true, since it’s clear he’s played his last game for the Rangers after the fight with Alex Georgiev.

To address the first question: Why did he clear waivers? The answer is simple: Money. By claiming him on waivers, a team is responsible for the full cap hit and full actual salary. Since DeAngelo’s contract is backloaded, it’s a decent chunk of change for a wild card. In a flat cap, there also isn’t much room to take on DeAngelo’s $4.8 million cap hit. It’s always about the money.

With that addressed, let’s make some assumptions before diving into this. The first is that the Rangers are likely going to have to take money back in a deal, or at least retain some salary. The second is that the Rangers aren’t going to get “full worth” for DeAngelo. Remember they’ve been trying to trade him for a while now, so the price already wasn’t what some thought they should get. The third is that they are likely to try to get a body to play center. There’s enough defensemen on the roster to at least fake it through half a season.

The last assumption may be a bit of wishful thinking, but it’s a realistic scenario. The Rangers may find a “change of scenery” trade, which might actually net them a real asset.

Reminder: I’m not good at valuing draft picks in these kinds of scenarios. Just assume that anything mentioned likely needs picks to be balanced out.

DeAngelo to the Ottawa Senators

My go-to for any trade involving a bigger cap hit, Ottawa has some interesting options. The first that comes to mind is Artem Anisimov. He’s not really a viable NHLer at this point, but he’s a center who might be able to fake it in the Rangers bottom-six. The money is almost identical too. The good news for the Rangers is that Anismov’s deal ends after this season. This would basically be a salary dump for the Rangers. I’d assume that since the Senators are getting an actual on-ice asset, the Rangers might want the Sens to include a pick in this scenario.

But let’s dig deeper. Erik Brannstrom, for some reason, is out of favor in Ottawa. The highly skilled defense prospect just can’t seem to get in the lineup. It’s a bit weird, for sure, but it is what it is. It makes you wonder if there is a package deal that includes Brannstrom and the Rangers adding to DeAngelo.

The third is the change of scenery scenario with Colin White. White is another player rumored to be out of favor in Ottawa. The problem is money, but this time for the Rangers. White is signed for another four years after this one. It’s a major risk to take if the 24-year-old can’t secure a top-six role in the short term. He’d need to at least be a top-nine when Filip Chytil gets back.

DeAngelo to Calgary for Sam Bennett

Sam Bennett is another name that has been rumored to want out of his current situation. He’s not exactly performing in Calgary, and his metrics aren’t overly good either. But he’s a young forward and a dart throw isn’t a bad option in a trade for Tony DeAngelo. Perhaps the significantly more skilled Rangers prop him up a bit.

For Calgary, they could use another body on defense, since they are very top heavy. This is the least likely scenario to occur, but I do believe the Rangers would try to send DeAngelo out west. I’m guessing the Rangers would insist on a draft pick being included in this situation.

DeAngelo to Anaheim for David Backes

Another contract/contract swap, but this time for David Backes in Anaheim. Backes, like Anisimov, isn’t good anymore. But his contract also expires this season. The Ducks have no defensive depth, but have center depth to spare. The thing is, as mentioned. Backes isn’t a real asset. He’s dead money for this year. In essence, the Rangers would make this trade to free up the $4.8 million next season. This is another scenario where the Rangers might insist on a pick being thrown in.

Other Options

The only other option that makes sense, if the Rangers can’t find a trade for Tony DeAngelo, is to buy him out this offseason. Buying out DeAngelo is a lot different than buy outs in the past, because DeAngelo is under 26 years old. That means the buyout is only 1/3 the salary, not 2/3 the salary.

For DeAngelo, that means the Rangers would take a cap hit of $383,000 in 2021-2022, and $883,000 for 2022-2023. Very manageable.

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  • Dave, can you think of a team that could use DeAngelo’s skill set but also has an excellent center prospect or young center the Rangers might covet? Rangers could trade ADA along with 1st round pick for 2021 (weaker draft) for the center and either eat money or take back a bad salary.

  • spit balling here…

    Regarding Ottawa Chris Tierney to me is an interesting option. his salary is back loaded on his contract. I like Brannstrom but with Nils Lundqvist in line behind Trouba and Fox, and Braden Schneider as well, and if he’s not NHL ready he doesn’t appear to fill a need short term or long term. But Shane Pinto may be an interesting prospect. We may need to retain some salary.

    I was thinking about Montreal as well. ADA would be 3 RD. but if we could get Danault and Mete and we retain $1 mill of salary for ADA the dollars work. And Montreal gets a PP QB. Danault is a UFA and having a slow start and the jury is still out on Mete. But if NY brings in Danault you can move Strome later and maybe keep Danault around a few years if they feel it makes sense.

    Calgary seems to work to me. Say we retain 50% of ADA for Bennett. And Maybe ask for a 2nd and offer back a 4th or 5th.

    • Calgary doesn’t have the cap room right now even on a 50% retain and sending a player back.

      March, maybe, but not now.

      • Now what would be interesting is if AQA were suddenly to go on his anger management session somewhere north of the 49th parallel 2 weeks before a certain team had the cap room to do a deal.

        How would the league look upon that?

      • DeAngelo at 50% retained is a lower cap hit (2.4M) than Bennett. (2.55) Calgary has a need on right side of defense.

  • I’ll be happy to eat crow here but the rangers taking back a viable NHL player (let alone a center) and also demanding a pick in exchange for Deangelo at this point does not seem like a realistic outcome. e.g. Rangers would be lucky to get Bennett in a straight swap, let alone taking back another asset from Calgary. more likely Rangers have to retain salary and throw in something else for a Bennett. Otherwise, salary dump trade or buyout are the future.

  • So I can infer that JD did not include any behavioural clauses for ADA under the new contract. Very unwise.

    • There is a broad strike of protection for NHL teams in all players contracts.
      “Conduct detrimental “ to the team
      It covers a wide array of poor conduct by a player

    • this is why the miller stuff is gotta be fabricated nonsense. otherwise theyd have a likely out.

    • I think Ryan O’Reilly was arrested in 2015 for driving his truck through a window at Tim Horton’s(of all places) while he was charged with driving while impaired. I think I remember Evander Kane getting into something with Dustin Byflugien and he was traded to Buffalo. He was again traded to SJ, after a few off ice incidences in Buffalo, and given a big contract. Maybe things are different today, but when you have the ability to make a big impact, people will take chances on bad behavior. For better or for worse…

      • Not all ill-behaved players are the same in the eyes of sports team. It is shamefully easy to look the other way if someone beats his wife but is a good team player. OTOH, someone who is divisive, won’t do what he is told in the playing arena, or makes it hard for the coach to control the team is less welcome.

  • Anisimov also played with Panarin in Chicago. No to Backes. Bennett a realistic option. Vince Dunn? Maybe. As far as not trading him: would need to pay him full salary this season and then 1.7m to buy out next seasons salary. Owner might not like all that money for someone sitting home. 6mil to be exact. When Dubois was being traded I thought DeAngelo made sense for them as part of a package. Still think he makes sense there. Torts wouldn’t back away from challenge of problem child and DeAngelo could help team that had one of the worst offenses and power plays last season. DeAngelo had more points than Dubois, who was their leading scorer

  • I don’t think he’s worthless at all. He’s a right-handed d-man who can run a PP very nicely. There a more than a few NHL-ers who have behavioral issues. Some we hear about, some we don’t. This one just happened to be very public. Will it hurt his value, absolutely. But I don’t think nearly as much as we are projecting. There was immediate interest from other teams.

    What about teams like the Wild, Ducks, or Nashville? They’re all having good seasons, they’re out west, and have horrible power play numbers this season.

    I’d have him sit before I’d make a bad deal and just give him away…

  • He would do good in Calgary. At least he will see the playoffs. Rangers will miss him, better leadership and would not have been an issue at all. Nothing wrong with telling the goalie he let in a soft goal, which he did.

  • His trade value has definitely taken a hit, but oddly enough if there’s “significant” interest it’s quite possible we could get more out of trading ADA than we all thought when the news broke — of course it will require some significant wheeling and dealing on Gorton’s part.

    I would be all in on Bennett tbh, he’s been a lackluster regular season performer but shines come playoff time.

    I would also look hard at Dunn — but we would have to “add” to the deal. I have no problem with that, in fact I think it’s best that we go after a player that can really help and use ADA at 50% salary as a sweetener to a slightly bigger deal.

    Whatever the deal re: ADA, we will have to eat half his salary to counteract his “issues”.

  • Unless we get something worthwhile in return, the ADA sit and buy him out in the off-season. He’s done nothing to earn the favor of being given an opportunity by the Rangers to play elsewhere this season.

    • So we should cut off our nose to spite our face? That’s bad asset management. If a reasonable deal is out there it behooves us to just move him and be done with it.

      • I meant more like don’t take on a bad contract or someone else’s disgruntled player when we can buy ADA out for marginal cap hits.

  • letting a top 4 dman sit out the entire season then buying him out and netting nothing in return is poor asset management.

    his politics?
    don’t care

    told Georgiev he let in a soft goal? (it was)
    don’t care

    getting Bennett from CGY even up is likely a tall order but ADA is a good fit (on paper) with the Flames.

  • Someone who can win face-offs – anyone – he doesn’t even have to be a highly skilled center – just someone to go out there and stop teams from winning draws in our zone, taking control, of the puck and creating opportunities against us. Just this one item makes this team a whole lot better – puck possession after play stoppages – also in OT – it makes all the difference in the world

  • ADA would be a great fit in Calgary. Milan Lucic can take him under his wing. Tony could buy a ranch and grow corn in the front yard.

    Sam Bennet comes the other way to New York. I always wanted to know what kind of center he could become if he had decent wingers to play with.

  • I’d love to see us make a trade with St. Louis for done maybe D’Angelo second round pick in this upcoming draft and eat some of the cash that might get it done

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