Game 17: John Tortorella and the first place Columbus Blue Jackets

The Rangers don’t have much time to reflect on their loss in Detroit, as they are back in action in what will be a tough challenge in Columbus. John Tortorella’s first place Blue Jackets may have a hazy future and legitimately questionable goaltending, but they are riding their -1 goal differential to a 9-6-1 record to top out the Metro Division. Sergei Bobrovsky has been outright bad, and Artemi Panarin seems destined for an island destination in the northeast.

It’s not all doom and gloom for the Jackets though. They have Anthony Duclair for less than $1 million and he is lighting it up for the Jackets. They have one of the most mobile blue lines in hockey. Assuming Bobrovsky figures things out eventually, they have an elite goaltender. This is a team that may not be built to win a Cup –yet– but they are going to give opponents fits.

Blue Jackets Lines

Artemi Panarin-Pierre Luc-Dubois-Oliver Bjorkstrand
Nick Foligno-Boone Jenner-Josh Anderson
Lukas Sedlak-Alex Wennberg-Anthony Duclair
Riley Nash-Brandon Dubinsky-Markus Hannikainen

Ryan Murray-Seth Jones
Zach Werenski-Scott Harrington
Markus Nutivaara-David Savard

PP1: Panarin-Dubois-Bjorkstrand-Wennberg-Jones
PP2: Foligno-Jones-Anderson-Duclair-Werenski

Joonas Korpisalo gets the start.

Rangers Lines

Vlad Namestnikov-Mika Zibanejad-Pavel Buchnevich
Chris KreiderKevin HayesRyan Spooner
Jimmy VeseyBrett HowdenJesper Fast
Filip ChytilLias AnderssonVinni Lettieri

Brady SkjeiTony DeAngelo
Marc StaalNeal Pionk
Brendan Smith-Kevin Shattenkirk

PP1: Zibanejad-Namestnikov-Kreider-Spooner-Shattenkirk
PP2: Hayes-Chytil-Vesey-Skjei-Pionk

Alex Georgiev gets the start.

Scratches/Injuries: Adam McQuaid (lower body), Frederik Claesson (lower body), Mats Zuccarello (groin), Cody McLeod (healthy)

Crazy Prediction: Is five in a row a crazy prediction?

Game time is 7pm.

45 thoughts on “Game 17: John Tortorella and the first place Columbus Blue Jackets

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    Funny how Duclair is excelling with Torts. Makes me wonder what Tough Love Torts could do with DeAngelo?

    Just thinking out loud theoretically – not a post on the worthiness of trading him.

    • Nov 10, 2018 at 10:06 pm

      I never liked how Duke played. His career can go in so many different directions but I wouldn’t get shocked if it went further in the shuffling deck of teams and than the toilet.

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    If Buchnevich continues to make plays like that, he’ll stay on the top line. Great shift. Great pass leading to the goal

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Seemed to me like a questionable penalty against Andersson. But, Blue Jackets score.

    • Nov 10, 2018 at 10:11 pm

      It was in the crease, and he basically kicked his leg out with a ref 2 feet away from him. But okay lol

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Hayes with the Evgeny Kuznetsov pass tape to tape!!!!!!! Wow, what vision

    Buch had a nice passing play but I think Hayes passes are much better. He’s made their top 3 look absolutely silly out there

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 9:24 pm

    DeAngelo with a bit of sandpaper in his game. I love this new Ranger team.

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 10:03 pm

    Nice win… but bad news for Hughes

  • Nov 10, 2018 at 10:07 pm

    Kudos to Georgi for putting that 2nd period behind him and playing lights out in 3rd and OT!

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:03 am

      Especially since the Rangers were totally outplayed in the 3rd.

      I’ve liked the kid’s poise from when he first came up last year.

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 7:43 am

    Someone please explain to me the coach’s love for Spooner.

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 7:50 am

    Pionk fun to watch but he has been our worst defensemen. Saying a lot for this group.

    Give Quinn a lot of credit. He plays everyone unlike predecessor. Nice combo of trying to win and player development. Plays young guys in all situations.

    Wonder if better off putting Lias in Hartford and not burning off year. I see him as just a center, not going to be that effective on wing.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:07 am

      “He plays everyone unlike predecessor.”

      Not Chytil. Put him in the top 6 for 10 games and see what happens before they may a decision on this kid, meaning stay up or go down.

      I don’t get the lack of opportunity for this kid.

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:12 am

        He certainly played Howden in all situations lol. Chytil has earned his ice and Andersson should be happy with scraps he got last night before he goes down again.

        • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:15 am

          “Chytil has earned his ice”

          How do you come to that conclusion? How do you know if the kid doesn’t get the real chance to make his case?

          When my friend, who favors vets over rookies and has coached hockey, says that Chytil has not gotten the proper chance, then I know that I am not imagining what I think about this specific situation.

          • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:44 am

            I’m just singing the same tune as you did over the summer. I’m going to use Howden as a prime example. Your whole idea was that someone like Lias should go down instead of playing in a limited role like Howden was suppose to be in. Good player’s make a case for themselves, no matter who or where they play. That’s always been in the hockey culture, you work your way up like a football player off special teams or a basketball player off the bench. Howden clapped back and forced the coaches hand to put him before Chytil. Hence why he center’s the 3rd line with PK and PP minutes.

            You need to be realistic about this whole situation. JG and Quinn already have explained that Hayes and Zib were going to be the top 6 center’s. The next viable option for Chytil was to outplay Howden and he couldn’t do it, plain and simple and now he’s not even close to his level. I see these same results if he was on any other team in the NHL. I doubt the top 9 is mourning for his presence on game days, practices and off days.

            • Nov 11, 2018 at 9:07 am

              Your concept is right but the method is wrong.

              Putting Chytil with McLeod and Lettieri does nothing for him and the evaluation of his play to even determine his worth as a player.

              So, saying that he has “to earn his ice” by putting him in situations that are 100% made to fail him, is mismanagement in the worst way.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:08 am

                No where else to play. Vlad now is in the top 6 and Zucc is coming back. His 200 ft game lacks anyways and when he was in the top 6, he was either playing poorly or missing the net and losing his board battles. He’s not going to make top 9 center so that’s out of the question. I really don’t know what else to tell you.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:22 am


                There’s room.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:45 am

                Lol well that explains it, but yeah you ain’t seeing that. Everyone’s not going to get punished because ” you ” personally want to see Chytil as the 2c. I doubt the player’s want that besides maybe Chytil.

                You have the gm, coach and the President of the club talking about a prove contracts and expected resigns for Hayes. That picture will become clearer down the road, just enjoy these wins bro.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 11:39 am

                I’ll say it again bro, if in the unlikely scenario that Hayes gets re-signed, then 2 things will happen:

                #1, you get to tell me “I told you so.”
                #2. we were lied to about the “rebuild” and the Rangers “pay back” will be that they will be an awful team for years to come.

                But let me ask you, how does signing a player to a big contract, one that has never hit 50 pts in a season and who never shoots the puck, will make the Rangers, A) a playoff team or B) a contender?

                Because I see no scenario that the Rangers are close to contenders if Hayes is one of their best players. And signing him limits their cap space in signing players who will make the Rangers a playoff team.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 1:11 pm

                You asked me this plenty of times before and I still don’t have a definitive answer for you. I’d like to point out that Zib cracked it once with 51 points in offense role with the Sens. Are you trying to stretch out that he warranted his contract? I think the simple answer is no but that’s the going rate for a top 9 center.

                Hayes averages 44-49 points in a shutdown 3c role who usually saw 15 mins a night with no PP role. Add more minutes, a PP spot and and I bet he would have cracked the 50 point barrier at least twice by now ( even with the lopsided DZ deployments ). That’s what I’m saying if I’m his agent along with his accomplishments like leading the league in shorthanded goals/points. He was ranked 2nd or 3rd in the league since last Janurary 1st and is right there with a lot of great names in 5v5 production. His agent will have all that to present to the jury and the leverage system on how other teams want him under their elite center’s as their 2c’s. Meaning his going rate isn’t coming in the form of a 3c which should be self explanatory. I think both parties will meet in the middle soon. There’s a chance that maybe a price might come down for a certain clause to be added in.

                You’re in the game for ” I told you so “. I’m just a fan trying to make my point across the board about a player who I think is good enough. If I wanted to do that than I would have used that old line since last deadline, over the summer and right now. No offense, but your predictions haven’t been close to being spot on how with deployments, who would be gone by now etc. All I had to do over the course was use quotes from the management which you can find yourself. JG made it pretty clear that he doesn’t want to tie up to much money on someone but KH is a player that he’ll have the $$ for and move on for the long term . <—- That was basically his quote along with Sather. If I was reading this situation any different, than my tone would be blatant with how they're going to screw up. I leave that part to you brotha 🙂

          • Nov 11, 2018 at 11:20 am

            Here’s an alternate idea. Chityl has shown so far that he really isn’t an NHL forward (yet I hope). Quinn is putting him in a role where he can’t really do anything – and so as it happens can’t fail, can’t be a guy who is losing games. He is getting to see what playing in the NHL is like without suffering the pressure of being an important player. Maybe this is the best way to get him to keep his head when he is skating around.

            What are the alternatives? Let him play top six and almost certainly fall on his face, at least for a while. Send him to Hartford to play against lesser players. Maybe either is a better idea, but maybe not. Giving him a key role is not only demoralizing, but has a second downside. It is bad for Howden, Pionk, DeAngelo and perhaps Andersson who are best served playing on a real team. My own suspicion is that he should be sent down, but I could be wrong.

            I do wish he was getting more playing time, but alas the Rangers really have a terrible fourth line, which btw cannot be improved by bringing up other unqualified players from Hartford.

            • Nov 11, 2018 at 11:33 am

              If this is how the Rangers are going to “handle” Chytil, then I’m all for sending him down for a bit.

            • Nov 11, 2018 at 1:13 pm

              It can if Beleskey came up

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 9:45 am

        Richter, I really think he needs a confident boost and going to Hartford for a few weeks is the way to get it imo.

        • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:20 am

          I don’t disagree about the need for a confidence boost, Sittoo, but the way he’s being handled is causing that issue instead of letting him play.

          • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:30 am

            Feeling like it is a bit of chicken and egg. But whatever the cause of his issues, he needs a boost and that seems like an easy way to get it.

            • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:48 am

              You are exactly right.

              Lack of confidence comes from several factors. IMO, they should have put Chytil at 2C for the first 10-15 games and kept him there. His play would have made the decision for them.

              They did not. They shuffled the line up with all the players for the first 10 games and then nailed this talented kid to McLeod. Does anyone with half a hockey brain think that this is a good idea for Chytil’s development based on his skillset? It’s not like Quinn put Chytil with someone like Fast, who can actually play the game.

              • Nov 11, 2018 at 12:29 pm

                Anyone notice McLeod’s play last night? He is a very poor hockey player. His defensive skills are as wanting as his offensive skills. If 5 ft. 11in. Tony DeAngelo is willing to drop the gloves, I am sure a few of the big boys on the team can do the same. I don’t see value added by McLeod.

                Watching Chytil, he does show flashes of what he can do. My thoughts regarding his playing time are that if they are going to be giving him less than 10 minutes TOI every game, then perhaps a few weeks in Hartford where he nets some goals would be the boost he needs. On the other hand, on a line with Andersson and Spooner could make sense. Lettierri looks to me like he could possibly use a stint with the Wolfpack too. I have a feeling that they intend to keep Andersson in New York from Quinn’s recent coments. Who knows?

                I understand that Quinn is probably trying to instill a winning culture so he covets wins, but people like DeAngelo and Claesson and Andersson should be playing if they are playing competently in order to get better, and Smith and McQuaid getting the bulk of the press box time now. Same goes for McLeod. None of the aforementioned three merit being in the Rangers’ future plans, no matter how good of a boxer McQuaid might be, his game sucks unless he is glued in front of the crease. Smith has reverted to playing poorly as well. They want some sandpaper in their game, then play Tony D. and get the big forwards to start adding that aspect to their game.

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 8:33 am

    So playing with McLeod and getting several seconds more ice than him is good for Chytil’s development? His advanvad stats are good, but he isn’t exactly playing with guys that will convert his chances in McLeod and Littieri. They are doing with him exactly what they said they didn’t want to do with Andersson when they sent him to the Pack.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 9:18 am

      Not every young player can be put in an ideal position to succeed. Opportunities are necessarily limited. Especially since we have an overabundance of centers and lack good wing prospects. Management has chosen not to fully tank and to balance player development with winning. That is why Chytil’s situation is not ideal. And the reality that Howden has surprised and beaten him out. At this point it might be worthwhile to put Chytil and/or Lias in Hartford until the trade deadline where they can succeed and when better opportunities will probably present themselves.

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 9:24 am

    On the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month in 1918, the “Great War” officially ended.

    Thanks to everyone who made a personal sacrifice so I (and we) can enjoy the peace of our time.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 9:47 am

      Hear, hear.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:23 am

      yep, thanks bro.

      and shame on anyone that gives this a thumbs down.

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 11:58 am

        Without these men and women we wouldn’t be here bickering and debating over hockey players! … just sayin

        • Nov 11, 2018 at 12:03 pm

          100% true my friend

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:21 am

    Rangers are now within striking distance of a wildcard berth. They have injected a lot of youth into their lineup and IMHO will only get better. Excellent work by Quinn and his coaching staff so far, as they are building a culture of winning and where mailing in it on the ice is not tolerated.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:55 am

      Rangers are like 1-2 wins away from leading the Metro. I think they play Washington and the Isle twice this month along with Philly at least once. It’ll be interesting to see how much the management goes into a buy in mode if all cylinders are clicking by late December.

  • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:24 am

    Walt, hope everything’s ok brother.

    • Nov 11, 2018 at 11:47 am


      I had lumbar spine fusion of L-3 to L-5 on Nov 1st, so it’s tough sitting for any period of time. It’s been a couple of tough months for us at the home front, but we will survive. Thanks for thinking of me just the same. Have yourself a great day my friend!!!

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 12:00 pm

        Get better quick Walt

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 12:04 pm

        God’s speed brother, to you, Maria, and your family.

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 12:30 pm

        Serious stuff Walt. I have had a few clients that had the operation. I hope your recovery goes smoothly and quickly.

      • Nov 11, 2018 at 10:07 pm

        Feel better soon Walt!

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