Andersson and Chytil are the first step, not saviors

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The Rangers officially recalled Lias Andersson and Filip Chytil yesterday, ending the speculation of when, not if, they would be called up. The 2017 first round picks will play for the rest of the season, something we’ve been waiting for since the rebuild was announced last month.

If the trade deadline was the setup for the new direction of the club, then the recalls –and hopefully legitimate playing time– of Andersson and Chytil represent the first step in the process. Chytil could turn into a legitimate top line talent, something the Rangers sorely need. Andersson will likely be a depth/middle-six guy. Something every team needs, but not something that gets them over the hump.

But these two are just the first steps in what is likely going to be a lengthy and frustrating process. The Rangers still need to hit homeruns with their three first round picks. They need the majority of the prospects acquired to pan out, and some to exceed expectations. There’s a lot that needs to happen, and it takes time.

The big takeaway is that Chytil and Andersson on their own will not turn the team around. Inserting them in the lineup does not make the Rangers a winning team again. We as New Yorkers are a pretty impatient breed, so I get a feeling we will need to go through this several times. This being just the first.

If they both pan out, then Chytil is likely good for 50-60 points (first line production) and Andersson for anywhere from 30-50 points, depending on where he winds up slotting into the lineup. We aren’t talking about a pair of McDavid’s here.

I’m looking forward to seeing how the teenagers perform in the seven games this year, but am also cognizant of who they are playing for and what system –or lack thereof– they are playing in. This is good experience for them to hopefully be the first building blocks of many to come. It’s an exciting time, for sure, but there will be growing pains.

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49 thoughts on “Andersson and Chytil are the first step, not saviors

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 6:31 am

    They could be playing in this system next year also . UGH

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 6:46 am

    So Av will play this line up tonight
    McLeod DD Chytil
    Holland Andersson Buchnevich
    Vesey Hayes Carey
    Fast Zucc
    and dress 7 D
    AV says we are trying to win every game and this line up gives us the best chance at doing that

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 3:15 pm


  • Mar 26, 2018 at 7:42 am

    “This is just a look-see by management to watch them perform at this level. I’m excited, but won’t crazy if they are marginal until they adjust to the NHL speed, and quality of the competition” !!!!!!!!!!

    I just posted this on the previous thread.

    We have to be patient with these kids, and not expect them to set the world on fire right away. There could be an additional one, or two draftees who could also make the roster next season, exciting time for us to see this team grow together as a unit.

    There will be a need for a few vets, possibly

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 7:44 am

      Nash, Grabs, or Kovi, that would be an exciting team to watch!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 7:58 am

        All over the hill nice players. Get me a real stud or a kid with potential to be one.

        • Mar 26, 2018 at 7:59 am

          you need a vet or two, but would agree……

          • Mar 26, 2018 at 8:03 am

            Zib, Kreider and Zucc are vets. It is time to cut ties with the past and look forward. I do not want roster spots taken up by these guys. Let Lettieri play fulltime. The more we have these other guys around, the more our youth gets pushed back to Hartford.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 8:24 am

        Nash and Kovi are just zombies of their originals, please not

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:51 am

      Exactly right Walt. These are young payers who will need time to adjust to the NHL.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 10:57 am

      This is why I hope the NYR squeeze by into the payoffs. If they win tonight than they’ll be 7 points out of WC2. I’m hoping the kids give another jump for another 3 game win streak, anything more than that and they’re in.

      We would get a extended look in the best environment possible. I feel like the headlines would read that the Rangers are just playing the game so the pressure wouldn’t be on us.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 1:33 pm

        Wow! 0-9 in up and down votes respectively. Is this a Rangers fan page with the fans all wanting to miss the playoffs. The Rangers need a 7-game winning streak to get to 88 points. The Devils currently hold the final wildcard spot with 86 points. It is virtually impossible for the Rangers to make the playoffs this season. The Rangers are pretty much locked in with the #10 spot heading into the Lottery.

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 7:55 am

    I think they are the saviors. Not for this year, but for the future. Additional youth and skill will come in this years draft, but these are clearly the top 2 stars in the organization and like it or not, need to be leaned on to produce sooner rather than later.

    If Zib, Kreider and Fast stay together, that is a fair first line, then what? We have a team of “nice” players. Buch, Vesey, Zucc? All nice, but scare no one. Chytil and Andersson need to become impact players, and in the near future. Sure we can buy back Grabner or Nash, but still no superstars.

    These guys need to be impact players, and the lack of studs in the organization does make them saviors.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:06 am

      Very good point… if the Rangers are to become relevant and more, then these guys will be part of new group of saviors that will be the core of the team.

      I really believe Andersson will be much more than what he is predicted to be. Captain material that will lead, play hard AND score. Intangibly and tangibly excellent. Just my opinion.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 10:17 am

        Andersson, lindgren, and Howden all are considered to be “captain material”. It would be great to see the C and 2 A’s on them.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 4:45 pm

        Lias is Toews and Chytil is Kane we hope.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:54 am

      I hope next season we either let Buchnevich stay on the first line or sign/acquire a real first line winger. Fast is a nice player, but he is definitely not first line material. Zuccarello is probably traded in the off season. I can see them kick the tires on Kovy or some other free agent.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:00 am

      Andersson isn’t saving squat. People like you will wait until he’s 28 to call him a flip of a 1st round pick. He’s going to be a 4c for the next 2-3 seasons.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:14 am

        You seem to be in the minority. How did you arrive at this special insight? You must know something everybody else has missed, including all the scouts, the WJ coaches for Sweden, the Frolunda people, etc.

        • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:43 am

          I think the reason for Mint’s disdain for Andersson has to have something to do with Kevin Hayes, of course. Any Ranger center (past or present) besides Hayes seems to greatly threaten and disturb him somehow.

          • Mar 26, 2018 at 12:24 pm

            Ah ok … well considering that Hayes “should” be our 2nd line center for the NOW and probably near future, he could have at least “allowed” Andersson to pivot the 3rd line. I kind of think Chytil might be moved to the wing — not that I see him as a poor defensive player, but I think Andersson might have a leg up on him in that regard.

            • Mar 26, 2018 at 1:55 pm

              Hayes should be where he was , 3rd line center.Zib is a decent 2nd line center.We haven’t had a true 1st line center for ever.

              • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:37 pm

                … and you won’t have a “true” 1st line center next year — and by true I imagine you mean elite 1st line center. Stepan was a 1st line center (always in the top 25 or so scoring-wise centers — with 31 teams that would make him a 1st line center).

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:13 am

    Alright, we all know they are not Connor McDavid or Auston Matthews. But, based on what I’ve seen thus far I expect both of the kids (they are still kids) to be decent NHL players who will fill positions on the roster with quality instead of mediocrity. Andersson seems to have two-way skills and some fire in the belly. Chytil might fill the net at a decent rate. Chytil probably needs more time in the weight room. Andersson apparently overdid the weights at one point, which just underlines his enthusiasm. We’ll see; they are really just beginning their journeys.

    • Mar 27, 2018 at 7:24 am

      If the Rangers had Matthews, McDavid, Crosby and a few all star D-men, the gum chomping clown behind the bench would still screw it up.

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:17 am

    Back to Back Caps, then TB to close out the Garden, toss in two rival games against the brooklanders and the flyers…

    Im excited to see the pair and hope they see some big game competition …


    BTW – Why doesn’t the club raise McDonald’s badge # to the rafters?
    would be fitting – and IMO I’d rather see that up there then the Billy Joel banner.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:23 am

      I agree with the McDonald badge number. Would be fitting.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:06 am

      My teen daughter is visiting up north this week during her spring break and my brother has obtained tickets to take her to Friday’s game vs. the Bolts. I am all tied up with court appearances on cases this week otherwise I would have joined them. I am jealous–I’d really like to take in a game to see the youngsters in-person!

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:09 am

        Get a continuance. 😉 Besides, there is no court on Saturday morning. lol Go to the game!

        • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:15 am

          Believe me if it were possible I’d be there. However, an appellate brief is due to the 11th Circuit this week and additional filings for the appeal are due the beginning of next week. I will be bound to my office desk all weekend! I’d retire from this rat race, but she will be starting college in two years.

          • Mar 26, 2018 at 12:29 pm

            Been there, done all that … well not the 11th circuit down south in Atlanta, my condolences counselor. 😉

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:54 am

    Lets get it done . Next year on his night raise it high

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:55 am

    I think they expect more from Andersson than you do Dave. More like 45-55 points, strong defensive play and leadership —- basically in the mode of a Stepan who can skate. In Chytil I would think they’re hoping for 60+. I have no issue with either, contrary to what others believe I don’t think a McDavid or Matthews is needed to win, just like you don’t need a $8m goalie (no offense to Hank). You need balance and depth, a little luck with injuries and for a couple of players to get “hot” at the right time.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 11:10 am

      Stepan wasn’t a leader, him, G and Staal got picked by default to wear the “A”. Zero leadership quality from what I heard. Maybe in a different universe Stepan held team dinners, helped Hayes and Zib at whatever to better their game at center.

      Why are fans like you so insecure about this center thing? So just say Hayes because he basically has underline advanced top line numbers as a 3c/2c in a shutdown role. We will be lucky if Andersson can put up 3 points while shorthanded. They call him a Swiss army knife because he can move up and down the lineup from the bottom 6 to the top 6, he’s suppose to be like Jesper Fast

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 12:48 pm

        You sound like Trump, “you heard” … I guess “some people are saying” this. Well I always heard differently. In any event, I wasn’t trying to suggest equivalency in their leadership abilities, all leaders aren’t the same and players can bring different aspects of leadership to the table. Leadership on a team is usually by committee with a first among equals at the head of the leadership group. You don’t win SCs with just one leader.

        Plus no, they don’t call him a swiss army knife because he’s suppose to be like Jesper Fast. Fast is versatile and in a pinch can play on the top 2 lines (witness how productive he’s been of late), but his main attribute was the boundless energy and determination with which he ALWAYS plays. Andersson is considered a more skilled player, potentially … and more of a leader. His downside is a better Jesper Fast, his upside is as a high quality 2nd line center — and that’s how they drafted him.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:13 pm

      How about he is the second coming of Cally. If we works like that I’d be happy.

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    “They need the majority of the prospects acquired to pan out.”

    Statistically isn’t this EXTREMELY unlikely? They don’t need the majority to pan out. And Andersson will need to score more than 30(!) points in his prime.

    Agree with the overall sentiment, and maybe the goal of lowering fan expectations for 2019. But with this age of parity, the NYC appeal to free agents (college and NHL) and Hank and a decent baseline (our 1st line is still terrorizing), I’m looking forward to the coming years.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 12:52 pm

      Actually I don’t think so Invalid … we’re talking about the prospects acquired which aside from Rykov in the 5th round were all high draft picks. You would expect (certainly hope) that the majority of your 1st and 2nd round picks pan out.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 9:44 pm

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    According to the lines at the morning skate.. Chytil is skating with Hayes and Zucc.. Andersson is skating with Spoons and Vesey. Namestnikov and Buch are with McLeod.. Holland, Carey and DD scratched. Georgie in net

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:10 pm

      So Chytil is playing wing. Ought to be interesting to see him play with Hayes and Zucc, all three can pass quite well. Maybe the kid gets a goal. 🙂

      I guess Cody is playing in order to be the policeman.

      • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:13 pm

        Only reason why I see McLeod playing. I like Andersson with Spoons and Vesey too

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    I’d sign some vets to play next year, wouldn’t mind signing Nash and Grabs and flipping them again next year at the trade deadline for more picks. How would you like getting another 1 and a 2 and a few more prospects for them!

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:19 pm

    Does anyone know if Ronning will be in camp next year?

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:39 pm

      For sure …

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:25 pm

    Hey not sure I’ve seen this posted but Ryan Lindgren scored the game winner for the pack last night. Like I said earlier this week I would not be surprised if his offensive skill is better than thought. Def at Minny never do much.

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 2:40 pm

      … as evidenced by Skjei’s numbers. Lindgren was used in the exact same way, as the top defensive shut down d’man. Plus he picked up an assist on Lettieri’s 20th of the season, which isn’t too bad considering he’s only played 47 games in the A.

  • Mar 26, 2018 at 5:07 pm

    What’s the over/under on how long it will take one of them to get glued to the bench tonight for a rookie mistake?

    • Mar 26, 2018 at 5:49 pm

      Good one … wouldn’t that be a kick in the head?!

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