The need to keep some players around

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https://digitrading.biz/it/trading-forexcfd/ forex trading stocks The Rangers are in the middle of a rebuild. We don’t know exactly what that means yet, other than jettisoning some expiring contracts and avoiding a likely terrible contract for Ryan McDonagh (yes, I said it). What we do know, or at least we are hoping/assuming, is that the Rangers are going to give their newly acquired youth time to play and grow.

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  • May 30, 2018 at 6:27 am
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  • May 30, 2018 at 6:39 am
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  • May 30, 2018 at 7:09 am
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        • May 30, 2018 at 8:18 am
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          rosuvastatin with out prescription The important thing was that if Lou (or even more important, John McMullen) loved you, you were in as long as you wanted. Ken Daneyko was a train wreck off the ice and Lou wouldve dropped him like a bad habit, but Dr. McMullen loved the guy for some reason, so he stayed.

          Lou had the 4 years of college thing, juniors and seniors were ones drinking the look aid and flew right. They took chances on guys like Peluso, but players like that were always short term types.

    • May 30, 2018 at 9:00 am
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      FWIW: In the 26 seasons since trading Messier, Edmonton has made the playoffs 9 seasons and missed 17. Considering more than half the league makes the playoffs, making the playoffs 34.6% of the time is not a model I want the Rangers to use. It is also noteworthy that Edmonton is 0-1 in Stanley Cup Finals since they traded Messier as well.

    • May 30, 2018 at 11:59 am
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      That’s interesting. Now that Lou is with the Isles, it’ll be interesting to see how he fixes that mess – knowing very well the work he did with the Devs and Toronto and now working with his son, if he can turn them around – they have 2 nice picks back to back in that first round and kind of wonder how much input he will have this late in the game, especially if the Isles draft room and Isles scouts prepped for this draft….😉

      • May 30, 2018 at 1:55 pm
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        Lou did nothing in Toronto.

        All those players were drafted before he arrived. Toronto hired him to have an experienced management figurehead to cover for team president Brendan Shanahan and then Assistant GM Kyle Dubas

        Basically, the Isles are going to get worse. Much worse. Lou hasn’t built a successful organization since the salary cap was instituted.

        • May 30, 2018 at 2:20 pm
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          True that, Chris.

          Lou’s place on The Isles totem amounts to simple message sending. A bridge to Tavares, perhaps Ilya Kovalchuk, as well.

          Though he’s a relic, a semaphore for a station long since passed, Lou’s still a far more venerated persona than Garth Snow.

          Now Chris, contrast the Isles’ brain-trust, that giant sucking sound with ours.

          “Beat your wife, Potvin, beat your wife”…

          LGR!

          • May 30, 2018 at 6:27 pm
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            The Isles are not going to get worse, my friend – and Lou has done an excellent job everywhere he went from Providence to Toronto.

            • May 31, 2018 at 1:02 pm
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              Again, what exactly is Lou responsible for with the current Maple Leafs?

              All the relevant talent on this Toronto team arrived while Lou was running the Devils into the ground the past decade (one fluke trip to the finals at the expense of Torts’ shot blocking extravaganza, not withstanding).

              The Isles, just like the Devils were for Lou’s final years in NJ, will be last in the division next season.

              • May 31, 2018 at 6:35 pm
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                Chris – this has nothing to do with the talent they already had once he got there. The Maple Leaf organization will tell you from the top down that he gave them stability, structure and order as a manager and trust me, this is huge. To say he has done nothing for Toronto is ignorance…its more than just “drafting” players, it’s also assessments and managerial experience that has made this man a Hall of Famer with US Hockey, and I wish the Isles didn’t have him. Garth Snow on the other hand ran a clown factory and that was pathetic – listen I breathe NYR red white and blue, but I give credit to where credit is due

  • May 30, 2018 at 9:50 am
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    Aside from Zucc, Namestikov and say Spooner and Staal the Rangers shouldn’t be looking to trade anyone in particular. Dave is right, you need some stability (players that know what it means to put on a Rangers’ jersey) … and guys like Kreider at age 26/27 and here on a reasonable contract are the bridge to the future. There will be time to trade the Kreider’s of the team if that’s the thing to do — whether it’s at the next trade deadline or the one after that.

    Of course if someone wants to throw a Top 3 pick at us, all bets are off …

  • May 30, 2018 at 10:25 am
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    There are some players that should be kept and some must go. Kreider fits, Lundqvist does not. Buch fits and Zuccarello does not. It is now all about vision. I want them to start fresh and grow a team rather than getting band aids to put on an arterial bleeding. They must stop the bleeding rather than protect the wound. To do this there is a strategy in place that works.

    Stars are not the answer as our beloved Rangers have proven year after year. To win a cup you need four things, short one and you’re not going to win.

    #1 An overall organizational system (How they play)

    #2 Players that will fit the system and that can be and most often is (not the best available player)

    #3 Building via the draft and development as soon as the ELC is signed. That means you need a team to train the players from skating to body positioning to team building exercises.

    #4 Team depth. I am not a fan of 1st pairing defensemen or top 6 forwards. I believe in roles such as faceoff specialists, puck moving Dman, crease clearing Dman, PK players PP players, hitting forward, garbage collector.

    #5 Accountability and unselfishness, I don’t want people bitching about ice time or blaming someone else for a mistake. Instead ask what went wrong and follow it up with how to correct it.

    So I will use Connor McDavid as an example. This is only an example and not an indication of who he is.

    Connor McDavid draft year is coming up and the Rangers have the #1 pick to draft this sensational player.

    Interviews indicate he is planning on playing for glory, so savvy questions are important by the developmental team. He shows signs of entitlement
    Zach Werenski show total team concept and believer of hard work. Though the Rangers need a center and strong on D, then you draft Werenski.

    In my experience especially in this day and age you can’t adjust attitude as easily as you can enhance skill. So you must draft to fit the system, Here you can trade your pick and keep the club healthy.

    Pointing to Gretzky and Messier, Gretzky won 4 Cups with Messier and non after, Messier won 6 Cups 4 with Gretzky and 2 after Gretzky trade and mind you 1 in New York breaking a 54 year curse we all know of. So if both were available in the same draft year and Gretzky was the sensation, I had the 1st pick, yeah I am drafting Messier.

    Rangers need to put in place so many things first that are more important than who the coach is going to be or who they will draft. So hopefully they have done that and Quinn fits and buys into the vision.

  • May 30, 2018 at 10:29 am
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    Keep Kreids and Zucc, Jettison for something Namestnikov, there is no space for him, and see what would be price for Spooner, if they want a lot 1 year, also trade, you can rebuild forever if you don’t have players to help youth, in my mind both Kreids and Zucc have enough balls to do it…. and don’t touch Zib,

    • May 30, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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      Zib is a interesting case due to the injury and mental prone ways that come with his game. A few hypothetical situations could make JG want to flip him sooner than later. I don’t think he’s as safe as the average fans say he is. 1. If a injury takes him out for 3+ weeks and Hayes continues to rise up with Chytil and Howden/Andersson than that might make him expendable. 2. If he doesn’t do any better than Stepan really did or if Hayes produces basically the same numbers as a 2c without top line minutes and PP1 than that might send him packing. 3. Injury riddled seasons that hold him back to consistently put up 55+ points could cut his career short as a NYR if the timeline is to win anytime soon. 4. Quinn having a relationship with Hayes might make the HC go talk to his boy JG that Chytil and Hayes can get it done. I’ve seen it hapoen before in sports that the HC wants to revamp the D etc so they use the quality trade chip who might not be the closer to him. I’m still convinced that AV helped run Stepan out but that’s different story.

      Ps Kreider isn’t Zucc strong, he should be like Jamie Benn strong but he’s not even that therefore not captain material. I don’t think it’s right to call him Hornqvist strong. When the team was doing amazing things he wasn’t at the for front of it all like Zucc was during every shift and every game bringing what it takes to win. Torts sniffed that out since day 1 and it pains me to bring up him as a source to calling out Kreids game. I still think those trade rumors from last year could pop back up if he doesn’t take off under Quinn’s regime.

  • May 30, 2018 at 10:39 am
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    With Zuccarello you have to weigh two things: is his decline going to accelerate and his current value with the club greater than his trade value?

    For the 1st part, I believe it will accelerate, but only slightly. As for the latter, right now it’s about equal, but Quinn will have to drop him down the lineup to build that trade value at the deadline.

    Fact is, at ES Fast outperformed Zucc in P60 last season. I’m not saying Fast should get plugged into the top 6, but that Zucc underpermed in his role.

    • May 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm
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      One shouldn’t focus too much on P60. Players who play more minutes are often more valuable just for that reason. Tampa Bay won a game against Washington where Holtby was pulled and it seemed like the same Bolt skaters (including Girardi BTW) were out there for the last two minutes. It was absolutely critical that these guys continued to perform in a relatively exhausted state. Many stats mostly tell us about how well players play rested, but goals are often scored against tired defenders. Zuccarello can play hard for an amazingly long time.

      And the Vegas story should tell us that the answer to the question “What’s more important, talent or commitment?” is not clearcut.

      • May 30, 2018 at 3:30 pm
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        Vegas is not a bunch of scrubs who are succeeding because of their motors. There is plenty of talent on that roster, and there was always going to be due to that expansion draft format, so long as they picked complimentary pieces. Depth like that is not common. It was a huge windfall that they could get a net-minder with playoff experience like Fleury, too. Gallant and co. do not make many mistakes from behind the bench, and they coach to the strengths of the roster. To say that their commitment could possibly be more important than their talent level, though…sorry bro, that’s just not how sports work. You need the base commitment level, sure…but then it’s talent from there. Heart and a good motor does not put the biscuit in the basket; if it did, Zucc would be a PPG player. Girardi’s HERO chart (or any stats, really) would look a lot better. Cody McLeod would still be decent at playing NHL hockey. Etc.

        • May 30, 2018 at 5:43 pm
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          Seriously, if I told you before the season started exactly who the 18 skaters Vegas would end up with and asked you if they would make the playoffs, I doubt you would have said yes. I looked at the career numbers for the twelve forwards they are dressing. They aren’t kids – only Karlsson and Such are under 27. Ryan Carpenter spent three years in the AHL and had five career points going into this season. Bellemare had a whopping 17-17-34 line over three seasons. Eakins had 65 goals in 6 years, Haula 42 in 4 years, Reaves had 31 goals and he is 31. David Perron was decent, but hadn’t had a 20 goal season since 2013-2014. He is a 30 year old who had a career 66 points. Karlsson 18 goals before this season and Marchessault only 38. Yeah, Neal was somebody who had attracted attention, but that’s about it.

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          Reality: You believe they are talented because they are playing well. You can’t win so many games without looking great. And of course, all the passion in the world doesn’t matter if you have no talent. But there is no way that, except in goal, they could match the 2017-2018 Rangers in talent.

          Oh – and Dan Girardi got to the Eastern Conference finals. And playing first pair defense. The team that bought him out did not. I’m sure he finds HERO charts amusing.

          • May 31, 2018 at 5:50 am
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            Raymond, Girardi was atrocious in the playoffs and was the culprit on the 2nd goal in the 7th game that basically put the dagger in TB’s season.

            Who cares that TB made the ECF when they shold have won a Cup with that roster. You can have “success” and still under achieve. TB underachieved.

            I guess Gorton was right.

    • May 30, 2018 at 1:01 pm
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      We need to have the best 3rd line again. Hags and JT had their best times as NYR’ s on the 3rd line while prior to playing top 6 minutes. Grabner and Pouliot revitalize their careers as 3rd liners in this team. Brassard and Zucc started their stardom as 3rd liners. Hayes has been the best 3c in the leaguriever since entering the league and has arguably been the best 3c that this team has had in the last decade considering that Boyle and Richie played there prior to Hayes arrival. That is the depth that this team was missing last year. Zucc should play on the 3rd line with Chytil so they can gain chemistry to team up with Hayes on the PP2. Although I thought him and Hayes looked good together but were just missing a shooter like Kovy to complete their games.

      Sometime I wish Fast could play on the 3rd line because it would open up different opportunities. You could add a player like Beleskey and Letteri with a rookie like Andersson as your 4th line.

      • May 30, 2018 at 3:35 pm
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        If Matt Beleskey sees NHL ice this season, there better be about eight injuries on the depth chart above him to warrant that. Unless he has one hell of a rebound summer and finds the fountain of youth in his travels, he’s toast IMHO. Looked awful at every stop last season.

  • May 30, 2018 at 11:49 am
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    The Rangers should keep all 3 first round picos unless top 2 picks are in play. I wouldn’t trade anyone unless it’s for McDavid or Laine. Besides Hank the Rangers have young veteran leadership that have been thru the wars. They’re tested without a lot of mileage all those guys where traded away (like McD.). The Rangers are in a good position where you have the Kreider’s, Buchnevich and young talent ready for the show. You add talent from this draft and next then everyone isn’t reaching FA at the same time. Those who don’t fit this new culture can be traded for more assets or picks. Let the new coach see what he has before making trades of let’s say Spooner.

  • May 30, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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    All I can say is that draft day will be an exciting day for Rangers’ fans this year! I am very hopeful about the future of the team too.

    They have a few guys like Kreider and Zibanejad and Buchnevich and Shatty, and Hayes, who they are likely to keep around who can be leaders on the club. If the Mighty Zuccarello remains he will also of course be a leader for the team. So yeah, keeping a few guys around makes sense. Even though any of them could be traded if the price is right, I expect most of them to be with the club next season.

    No matter what, these are interesting and exciting times for Rangers fans.

  • May 30, 2018 at 12:46 pm
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    I fully agree with you. The alternative it seems to me is exactly what Edmonton has done over the last decade – lots and lots of young talent, but no useful veteran structure. They had no success at all even with #1 overall picks until they got McDavid.

    • May 30, 2018 at 1:58 pm
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      If you look at Edmonton’s draft results, after hitting on a few top picks, and they didn’t come close to 100% on all their Top 5 picks, there isn’t much else to point to and say, yeah, that was a good pick.

      It wasn’t a lack of veteran structure that doomed Edmonton, it was a lack of pretty much everything, except for a couple star players.

      • May 30, 2018 at 5:54 pm
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        People have a misconception about what they know. You really don’t know how good players should be. You only know how they turned out. We don’t know for certain that Edmonton drafted poorly, only that their picks developed in such a way that they were disappointing.

        Two of the awful players they ran out of town were Devan Dubnyk and Justin Shultz.

        • May 30, 2018 at 7:09 pm
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          Edmonton is the absolute worst franchise to use. They went from almost winning the cup 1 year to cellar dwellers for 10 years after. And then they just did it again within the last 2 years. How the hell does that happen? Talent doesn’t just fade that fast. Talent fades like the rangers did over a course of a few years. Either you make the right moves like the Capitals did or the wrong ones like we did. Edmonton has had such a long history of undervaluing their talent cause they keep looking for the next Gretzky. Jordan Eberle for ryan Strome is a perfect example. They are a awful franchise with no clear cheif and 100 indians telling them what should be done.

          Explain the pathers…had jagr for a few years right when gallant was there? Explain the isle’s with boychuk and leddy who have both one cups?

          Edmonton’s failure has always been trading away key pieces that the front office thought were replaceable. As with all the cellar dwellers. Aho lit up the world cup this year how is he turning out on carolina? pretty sure he will get traded soon. I heard like 5 rumors on him getting traded at the draft.

          Cellar dwellers are there because half of them under estimate their players value and the other half won’t spend the money to keep their rising talent.

        • May 31, 2018 at 1:05 pm
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          Ok, so Edmonton is clueless when it comes to drafting players AND developing players.

          Better?

  • May 30, 2018 at 12:54 pm
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    There are some players that should be kept and some must go. Kreider fits, Lundqvist does not. Buch fits and Zuccarello does not. It is now all about vision. I want them to start fresh and grow a team rather than getting band aids to put on an arterial bleeding. They must stop the bleeding rather than protect the wound. To do this there is a strategy in place that works.

    Stars are not the answer as our beloved Rangers have proven year after year. To win a cup you need four things, short one and you’re not going to win.

    #1 An overall organizational system (How they play)

    #2 Players that will fit the system and that can be and most often is (not the best available player)

    #3 Building via the draft and development as soon as the ELC is signed. That means you need a team to train the players from skating to body positioning to team building exercises.

    #4 Team depth. I am not a fan of 1st pairing defensemen or top 6 forwards. I believe in roles such as faceoff specialists, puck moving Dman, crease clearing Dman, PK players PP players, hitting forward, garbage collector.

    #5 Accountability and unselfishness, I don’t want people bitching about ice time or blaming someone else for a mistake. Instead ask what went wrong and follow it up with how to correct it.

    So I will use Connor McDavid as an example. This is only an example and not an indication of who he is.

    Connor McDavid draft year is coming up and the Rangers have the #1 pick to draft this sensational player.

    Interviews indicate he is planning on playing for glory, so savvy questions are important by the developmental team. He shows signs of entitlement
    Zach Werenski show total team concept and believer of hard work. Though the Rangers need a center and strong on D, then you draft Werenski.

    In my experience especially in this day and age you can’t adjust attitude as easily as you can enhance skill. So you must draft to fit the system, Here you can trade your pick and keep the club healthy.

    Pointing to Gretzky and Messier, Gretzky won 4 Cups with Messier and non after, Messier won 6 Cups 4 with Gretzky and 2 after Gretzky trade and mind you 1 in New York breaking a 54 year curse we all know of. So if both were available in the same draft year and Gretzky was the sensation, I had the 1st pick, yeah I am drafting Messier.

    Rangers need to put in place so many things first that are more important than who the coach is going to be or who they will draft. So hopefully they have done that and Quinn fits and buys into the vision.

    So yeah they need to concentrate on the other aspects to building a Cup winning team. Do it right Rangers

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  • May 30, 2018 at 1:12 pm
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    There definitely needs to be a mix, especially if you don’t have any elite talent like we do (just as of now I hope). Look no further than last nights Yankee game.

    Yanks commit 5 errors and still manage to win. They did not deserve to win that game. How did they do it? Gardner (one of the few remaining veterans from the championship ’09 team) hits a clutch homer to tie it in the 9th, and Torres wins it in the 10th. CC also busted his a$$ through a tough 5 innings in which he was not helped out by the defense around him. Also, a great veteran/leader on the team, And the bullpen of Robertson and Betances who have been around the block was also a factor.

    I really hope the Rangers take note of what the Yankees organization is doing. I know there has been posts on this site about whether its comparable or not since its two different sports, no salary cap, etc. and I hear you … but I think it is more comparable than we think.

    Torres made 2 errors and Andujar made one error. Both were brutal in the field but the Yankees know the talent they have in both of them. They’ve stuck with them and it has paid off. And they played a huge role in their win in the 10th inning in addition to the veterans picking them up.

    Long story short, young players will make mistakes, and it’s okay. That’s growing pains. But the Yanks are allowing their kids to make mistakes and at the same time, still succeed. The Rangers have not been able to do that the last few years Buchnevich is the first that comes to mind. If he’s dogging it, plant him on the bench for a period and make a statement to him. But then put him back on the first line the next game, don’t roll him out on the 4th line for 8 minutes or healthy scratch him. We need to see what we have. That’s exactly what the Yankees have done the last 2 years.

    I’m hoping this new era will be a nice balance of old and young.

    • May 30, 2018 at 2:17 pm
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      Dan I’ve been saying it for two years now. Collect picks,draft well and keep those who fit the new culture. Trade guys heading into FA if they want more than their worth aka Cally McD. Flip them for younger skilled talent or picks in a solid draft year. The system should always be flushed with skilled talent and really to add more. Wether trading for that final piece or more assets. Never chase or reach because cup winners are build ground up. Hard work and yes sometimes luck.

  • May 30, 2018 at 1:35 pm
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    Keep, Kreider, Brady, Mika, Hayes, Buch, Pionk and Vesey…you could trade everyone else.

  • May 30, 2018 at 3:30 pm
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    Looks like Kovy fired his agent, must not have liked the idea that all he could get was a 1 year deal.

    So now the question is, is he in it to win it, or a payday?

    • May 30, 2018 at 7:07 pm
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      I’m getting tired of his act already & he hasn’t even arrived yet,I’d have serious reservations giving him more than 5.5 mil. for 2 years.

  • May 30, 2018 at 5:14 pm
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    Something I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up is according to Spotrac,Marc Staal’s contract goes from a NMC to a Modified No Trade Clause this season,so I believe he has to submit 10 teams that he would agree to be traded to at some point this year,hopefully at least one of those teams still sees value in him,we wouldn’t need much in return.

  • May 30, 2018 at 5:31 pm
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    Something I’m surprised hasn’t been brought up is according to Spotrac Marc Staal’s contract goes from a NMC to a modified trade clause this season,so I believe at some point this year he has to submit a list of teams that he’s willing to be traded to,hopefully at least one of them still sees value in him.

  • May 30, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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    According to Spotrac Marc Staal’s contract goes from a NMC to a modified no trade clause this season,so he has to submit a list of teams he’s willing to be traded to sometime this year,hopefully one of these teams still sees some value in him.

    • May 30, 2018 at 10:56 pm
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      Good info – thanks, Mjr

      • May 31, 2018 at 5:18 pm
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        You’re quite welcome Carlos.

  • May 30, 2018 at 7:36 pm
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    Vegas represents a franchise that wants to win. There is no history, no locker room drama, and it has 90% career 3rd and 4th liners. If anyone said at the beginning of this year Vegas is going to win it all link me to the post. So with Vegas doing this well it really is a huge spit in the face of the leagues GMs/Scouts. It says none of you can evaluate talent and this is the result of a organized detail singular goal in mind. But 75% of the GM’s and fanbase will say it is luck.

    Truth is somewhere in-between. I think hockey like no other sport needs a team to gel to go anywhere. You could have all the talent in the world but never get any results…aka Sather’s first 8 years here. Leadership is important but so is talent evaluation. Realizing or seeing what a particular player excels at is essential. Cause if he feels he is not being used correctly his negativity destroys the locker room.

    • May 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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      Vegas May be mostly 3rd and 4th line players but unlike with past expansion teams, teams are building with speed & skill throughout the lineup. Building with players that can play in most if not all spots. All McFee had to do was choose the players that could fill a role for his team. Of course a good amount of this was luck. Having Matt Murray play so well in Pittsburgh leaving Flower unprotected for the expansion draft was a lot of luck. Rarely does a true #1 goalie be left unprotected. I just think the way teams are built today bodes well for expansion. A GM with a solid staff around him should at least be able to put together a competitive team. Seattle is next up to even out the Conferences at 16 ea.

      • May 31, 2018 at 6:51 am
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        Not only did McPhee get the layers that led them to a possible Cup, he also got high picks to take those same players.

      • May 31, 2018 at 12:35 pm
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        Actually Raanta was also left unprotected and showed himself to be a true #1 this year. Under the current draft rules, I think it is likely that there will usually be someone like Raanta available. The real goalie problem for an expansion team in general is that there are maybe 7-8 backups who could be really good and in fact only one or two will pan out. So it isn’t a lack of a number one available, it’s finding him. Fleury solved that problem by being a known commodity.

  • May 30, 2018 at 8:02 pm
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    Personally I would like to see most of the remaining players from last season remain on the team. I could live without Marc Staal but he was a part of the roster when there was a winning culture and attitude in that locker room. The Salary Cap was recently estimated around $80 mil for next season giving the Rangers a ship load of ceiling space. LG Gorton. Keep it young and fast.

  • May 30, 2018 at 8:08 pm
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    Pretty much will not be traded unless totally blown away: King, Kreider, Zib, Buch, Chytil, Andersson, Skjei, Pionk, Shatty.

    Pretty much will be here, probably: Zuc, Hayes, Vesey.

    Shopped heavily: Spooner and Namer.

    Take my vets, please: Staal and Smith.

    The biggest questions for me are what they do with Zuc and/or Hayes.

    • May 30, 2018 at 11:03 pm
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      Same here Richter…but I would rather keep Hayes I’m really hoping for him to have a big season next year. He is 26 and made some major strides on the PP this year and crashed the net well.

      • May 31, 2018 at 6:32 pm
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        The Rangers basically have to keep Hayes unless they get someone better in a trade.

        Having Zib and 3 young centers would basically sabotage everything they would want to do.

    • May 31, 2018 at 12:51 pm
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      Not sure I agree with your keeper list. The three I question are Kreider, Skjei, Pionk. I definitely agree with the other six. I am not dissing this trio, just not clear why you think Gorton is wholly committed to them. In general, you want to trade guys who are overrated and the fact that these players are highly regarded (unlike say Steven Kampfer) suggests a potential that they may be overvalued. E.g. compare how good JG thinks Skjei will be to how good other organizations expect he will be. As for Pionk, well he showed he could play top pair defense on a bad team. Surely he impressed the Ranger organization but maybe somebody else saw more there than the Rangers see as realistic.

      In the cases of Zib and Andersson, I think JG will be at least a little irrational as they are his guys and he won’t deal them even if he should, but I see the three I mentioned as pieces that JG likes, but not ones he is wedded to.

      • May 31, 2018 at 6:37 pm
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        Let’s go one at a time:

        Kreider: If you trade him then what do you get in return? It better be one of the best players in the league on the right side of 27 years of age. Because while not elite himself, he is an impact player and trading him would give the Rangers virtually no game impact forwards.

        Skjei: Potential legitimate top pair D man that’s still very young. That statement in itself says that you do not trade him. Don’t even try to evaluate him with that mess of a coach behind the bench. Brady was a beast in the 2017 playoffs.

        Pionk: First of all, what would he bring back in trade? Vs. the potential he has to be a very good 2nd pair D man? Who plays the PP? The upside he has clearly outweighs the little trade value he would bring back at this stage of his career.

        • May 31, 2018 at 8:14 pm
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          First, I took your list as a what will the Rangers do as opposed to what should they do. Personally, I definitely do not want to trade Kreider or Pionk and don’t particularly want to trade Skjei either. But I see a trade as possible, except perhaps in the case of Pionk.

          Basically, what you know about these players is also known to all of the general managers. The very reasons you want to keep them are the same reasons that they want to acquire them. They will pay a lot for Kreider; they won’t pay much for Nieves. I think that the Rangers will get a substantial return for Kreider if they shop him. Substantial enough to satisfy you? Probably not. Substantial enough to satisfy JG? That is less clear.

          What I don’t know – and perhaps you do as you claim to have an inside source – is what JG really thinks of these players. For example, consider Kreider for Yanni Gourde. Is that a trade JG would make? [Incidentally, if I’m TB, I’d make that deal.]. And does JG really see Skjei as top pair. If not, why not deal him to a team that does?

          You are probably right about Pionk. I personally give a lot of weight to playing time and role. The fact that AV made Pionk his #1 guy impressed me. I suspect thought that you are right – that the outside world is not so impressed – and, unlike Kreider or Skjei, Pionk simply would not bring back that much in trade.

          But, when it comes to making predictions about what is going to happen, I view Zibanejad and Kreider very differently. Zib is the guy JG got for Brassard, one of the guys that is there to show how smart JG is, while Kreider is just another player. I would imagine he really wants to keep Zib but is ambivalent about Kreider and just might accept a realistic offer.

          • Jun 1, 2018 at 5:53 am
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            ok Raymond, now I understand where you are coming from.

            And I agree, all the Rangers are up for trade consideration, the players have individual value as to what it would take for Gorton to pull the trigger.

            My gut says that Kreider might be the Captain, and that was before the Quinn hiring. Maybe Shatty? But Kreider will get an “A” for sure, so it would take a major talent coming back to trade him.

            • Jun 1, 2018 at 7:37 pm
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              Zucc is the obvious choice for the captaincy if he stays. He also represents everything what Quinn wants from a player, the coach will love him.

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