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Some thoughts as we play meaningless hockey

March 24, 2018, by

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The Rangers are playing some pretty meaningless hockey to round out the season. Well, it’s meaningless from our perspective. It isn’t meaningless for the players, coaches, or front office staff. There’s still a bunch of work for them to do, and the offseason is fast approaching. But there are still eight games remaining before we get there, and the path the Blueshirts take seems to be a hot topic. Naturally, I have some thoughts.

1. Rob was absolutely justified in his rant after Thursday’s loss in Philly. It has nothing to do with the loss, or even how the team played. After all, we aren’t expecting much and we kind of but don’t really but kinda really want them to lose. It’s more about playing guys with no future with the Blueshirts over guys the club should be evaluating. Cody McLeod shouldn’t be playing on the top line. End of story.

2. You know what’s scarier, though? Perhaps he was getting those minutes because the club thought they needed to evaluate him for a potential future role? Scary, right?

3. The more likely scenario is that Alain Vigneault saw lackluster play from Vlad Namestnikov and moved to the fourth line, which I’m kind of ok with. Players need accountability. When there is no one else on the roster to move up, then it’s McLeod. Rock and a hard place, I guess. I don’t like it, and I agree with Rob. But I’m kind of over this season already, and pretty much done with AV at this point.

4. Which leads me to my next point. AV is coaching for his next job, so he’s coaching the way he believes will get him hired elsewhere. These are the types of moves he has always made, and has led to his success. Remember, he’s a good coach, but he’s not the right coach for this team anymore.

5. We are all waiting for the recalls of Lias Andersson and Filip Chytil, and for good reason. It’s been a long time since the Blueshirts have had a pair of young first round picks who look NHL ready. But let’s take a step back here. The kids are going to have growing pains. They are not saviors. They are not Crosby or Malkin or Ovechkin. Chytil looks to be a top line player, but the jury is still out on Andersson’s role. He could be middle-six, he could be bottom-six.

6. The excitement goes beyond those two, though. Three first rounders, after two last year, bodes well for a hopefully quick rebuild. While it’s unlikely the Rangers get the top pick, or even the top three, they will get a top-14 pick, hopefully a top-10 pick. With three firsts and four more in the second and third rounds, they have the means to move up as well.

7. The last time the Blueshirts were set up like this: the 1999 draft. So let that be a cautionary tale.

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77 comments

  1. Walt says:

    “The biggest thing the Rangers could do to improve next season is to fire Alain Vigneault. The head coach’s tenure has been successful in the regular season but has never gotten over the hump. Combine that with Vigneault’s logic-defying lineup choices and poor adaptability and you have this terrible season. The coach has failed to properly utilize several important players.”

    Nicholas Zararis, another writer joining the chorus in singing out that AV has to go. It would amaze me if that buffoon returns.

    This is something I posted this morning on the previous thread. It’s funny how the vast majority of fans, and writers can see this, but the three blind mice can’t, JG, Sather, and the biggest clown of all Dolan!!!!!!!!!!

    • EZ Rider says:

      He should and is going to be fired. But, be sure to kick him in the ass on the way out. Maximum class, as always.

      • Mintgecko says:

        They got rid of JT Miller his arch nemesis or vice versa. I expect AV to stay and start the year out, he got the extension for a reason. If 18-19 start out really good and the team ends up staying out inside the top 10 all of next season than he might even stay longer. Long story short he’ll have his chance to teach the young kids.

        • EZ Rider says:

          That would shock me. Hell, I’d pick up a pitchfork and join these other guys. Hey, where are the torches, I need one just in case.

        • Reenavipul says:

          Fat chance he stays, unless Gorton goes.

          The extension means nothing to the cap or their budget.

      • Walt says:

        EZ Rider

        You know nothing about me you ass hole, so cram your maximum class where the sun fails to shine. By the way, which one are you Moe. Larry, Curly or Rainman!!!!!!!

        • EZ Rider says:

          I know what you show, and you just proved my point.

          • Walt says:

            I posted something from an article, you take it personal and attack me for it. Then I’m to take it, and roll over. Sorry guy I won’t do that and call you out on it. You made it personal, not me, maybe your his bastard child??

    • Moose Klein says:

      Just wondering if any writers and/or broadcasters bother to attend AV’s post game ‘press conference’…he doesn’t seem to get any substantive questions (maybe because all he does is recite the game summary and then says “GOOD”)…
      It’s sickening that the media capital is so uninvolved with the hockey teams, but worse that the Rangers seem to be number three on the information highway.
      I watch other teams post game talks with the coach and they are detailed and meaningful.
      Embarrassing!

  2. tanto says:

    Players like McLeod shouldn’t even be in the lineup and eligible for promotion to the 1st line …

  3. dbagasman says:

    ABSOLUTELY agree that Vigneault has to go, but can we at least put a little blame on Lindy Ruff?!?!?
    The defense has looked lost, confused and downright horrible all year and not a peep in the press about the defensive guru who has guided this team to more 50 point blank shots on goal nights then I can ever remember…
    If this is the way he is auditioning to be the next Head Coach its going to be a long time until we are sipping from Lord S’s cup!!!

    • Walt says:

      Sorry my friend, Ruff is the third d-coach in three years, and the same results. It’s the system, and AV won’t change it, period!!!!!!!!!

      • pas44 says:

        Ulf, Book, Ruff

        Its the system for sure!

        It’s Poo = Take a Whiff

        any attempt to say otherwise is simply wrong. AV’s system ruined 2 very good goalies attempts at winning the cup.

        Without the 2 goalies he had, his record would have about 200 more losses.

    • EZ Rider says:

      PK has been a lone bright spot. Good on Lindy.

      • Mintgecko says:

        The PK has been amazing since last season so I doubt he gets any love about assembling that. Matter of fact all out shorthanded players haven’t scored many shorties this season. Hayes lead the league and set franchise records in that department in last season and he only has 1 goal now so I would say Ruff has screwed that process up. Besides It doesn’t look good when Hank repeatedly skates by the bench and says something about your coaching style.

  4. Joen7 says:

    AV is taking too many arrows here, sure it may be time for a change. But he has been one of our better coaches overall. Which of the former ranger coaches have been better going all the way back to the Cat? Do you really want Torts back?

    • Mancunian Candidate says:

      Every coach is like a quart of milk—they start to spoil as they approach their expiration date. Vigneault should’ve been canned after last season, no question about it. It’s been all downhill with this guy since the loss to Tampa in the semis in 2015.

    • EZ Rider says:

      Short answer, no, don’t want Torts back. But that is not the situation. Don’t use the straw man argument. We need a new coach. Start fresh. And no, I am one who will always say he did a good job.

    • Leetchie Nut says:

      Absolutely positively not!! He was one of if not the biggest embarrassments to ever be associated with NYR.

  5. Leatherneck says:

    This ain’t the 99 draft..Let’s be very clear on that…This is more like 03 and 08 draft

    We need to draft ahead of Chicago and the Islanders….hopefully at 7

    Not to defend AV….but in this case…he had to do what he did….Namestnikov was that bad….I think the message was loud and clear to Namestnikov.

    • EZ Rider says:

      Vlad is a pro, he’ll be fine. McCloed is a goon, he’ll be gone. Considering his and AV’s status as lame ducks, this is a non-issue.

      Again, Kudos to Dave for avoiding a useless rant (Rob, you getting this?) as the season dies down.

    • Leatherneck says:

      Hey Mo…where are your buddies Larry and Curly? Just 1 thumbs down? I am dejected

    • Rich S says:

      Leatherneck…..what player/ quality we be getting if we draft at our current position? Its not looking good getting into the top 3……….
      Namestnikov put up some decent numbers MAINLY because he played with stamkos and kucherov……on this team we will all soon be lamenting about losing Miller for him!!!!!!! Horrible trade……….

  6. Odielicious says:

    Always the same song and dance with you guys. AV sucks fire him…yada yada yada!

    You guys are all passenger seat drivers. Pointing fingers at all the obvious flaws at the big, dumb, tan, gum chewing, process speaking, idiot makes. Do you guys really think a coach makes that much of a difference? How many games with a better coach do you think the Rangers would have won over their present record?

    Do people really think Cooper is that much better of a coach? OR any present coach for that matter. Or do you think the talent pool of players he has is much higher? Stamkos being on the team the whole year and not being injured alone has added 10 wins to the lightning record. Last year they didn’t make the playoffs cause he was out the whole season.

    It is not the coach buddies. Coaches are the easy target. Does AV need to go? He has no resume with youth. That alone is enough reason to fire him. But to consistently blame him for the failures of this season is idiotic at best. I mean get your hats on straight fellas. Now that you guys want them to lose, you idiots are still ranting on how dumb it is for him to play Mcleod? DID AV SIGN HIM?

    How about you write something of value on here once in a while, like what a leap of faith lindgren has made by signing a tryout contract and dropping out of college to play in the AHL.

    Or all the horrible things that went sideways on this season for the Rangers. Like all the games lost do to injury.

    And how the Rangers started the season with 2 Legit Centers.

    Or how Chytil the 28th pick made the team out of camp but the 7th pick never even gets a game this season.

    Echo…echo..echo…calling all mindless drones.

    • EZ Rider says:

      I agree with some of what you say. Who knows how many wins or losses difference a coach makes? Good debate over pretzels and beer.

      This is not all AV’s doing or fault. Granted. I agree that AV should be accorded some civility as he finishes the string. Good luck tho. This is the internet, lol.

      That said, the shelf life of coaches is short and getting shorter. You almost can’t be too early to hook a coach but you can definitely be too late. If I had to pick I’d say too late in this case, for sure. But hindsight is 20/20

      • Odielicious says:

        I don’t really agree. I think Torts shouldn’t have been fired when he was. I figured a season more to prove himself would have been perfect. But who am I to say whether or not AV got us to the finals that year or if torts would have done the same thing with that talent pool.

        mark my words though…the next idiot to take over the head coaching job will be even worse then the present idiot. You know how I can say this? Cause I still see sather at press conferences when trades are executed or draft picks are made.

        • Reenavipul says:

          Torts went when he should’ve because his playoff level intensity during the regular season was killing the team.

          • Odielicious says:

            Yeah but stick to the point I was making…does torts get us to the finals that next year? Or is it AV that pushed us over that hurdle? I know why you won’t answer I just want to see if you will.

            I personally think torts got fired cause of his media battles. I also think the replacement in large part was hired cause of his ability to handle the media. Being French and all helps him.

            • Reenavipul says:

              The only point you have is on the dunce cap you wear while you post.

              • Odielicious says:

                ok so I am the troll? Take your t-rex looking mom back to animal kingdom!

                Your momma is so fat that when she goes camping the bears hide their food.

                They used to call them jumpolines ’til yo mama bounced on one back in ’73.

                Yo mama is so dumb, when the weather man said it was gonna be chilly, she went outside with a bowl and spoon.

    • joe from newburgh says:

      Am I the only one who remembers when Torts and his staff were the worst thing that ever happened to the Rangers? The chant was “fire them all and never let them coach again”. If they were so terrible, how come Torts is doing well with Columbus? Oh, yeah, how about Mike Sullivan? That idiot who couldn’t coach a pee wee team somehow ended up with the Penguins, didn’t he? How did that work out? 2 Stanley cups in 2 years?

      • Odielicious says:

        Thanks for solidifying my view point with yours. My sentiments exactly. It is never the coach and almost always the players but since you can’t fire players lets blame the coach.

      • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

        All due respect … Anyone with that group of talent could coach that team

        • Ryne Muller says:

          Dan Bylsma & Mike Johnston ought to be ashamed of thier records but, yes, they did “coach” the Pens. I guess anyone could coach that team.

      • Tony says:

        Right on point . It’s about talent . Who are our top players when we won ? It was goalie and defense . Consistent scoring and power play have been our deficiency for years so we play well rounded game and it got us to the cup but our big players Nash , gaborik failed to put us over the top . Lundqvist , Mcdonaugh maybe Brass etf but the bottom line is that we are paying for our lack of elite talent . Coaching is supposed to put you in a position to win if you can execute plan . Our players didn’t execute and here we are . However I am disappointed in Av for lack of adopting to young players , work out kinks . Ruff is a dinosaur and I’m over 40 so time to get fresh and I do trust gorton . Sather is just collecting paychecks acting as a confidant

        I love the passion of hockey fans ! Is there enough elite talent in the draft this year to get a top center , and two scoring wingers ?

    • Peter says:

      I agree with much of what you said about the team and blaming AV too much. I have said much the same thing at times. The players on the ice matter much more than the coaches.

      Where I part ways with you is when you pen your usual obnoxious comments about fans or people who write or comment on the blog. It is juvenile and makes me often skip what you post.

      • Odielicious says:

        Pete do me a big favor and just continue to pass my post’s. Nothing added here in your comment other then negativity. I would rather not see your name next to mine ever then have to reply to this deep thought.

        Me challenging the writers and commenter’s on this site to provide a higher ceiling really is not all that juvenile. But one man’s pile of garbage might be another man’s pride and joy. So to each their own. If you are satisfied with the content here good for you.

        But please for the future of this human race don’t breed. 1 of you is enough to damage the country, more of you would be a extinction level event.

        • Reenavipul says:

          Jesus, please make him stop with the stupidity and insolence.

        • Peter says:

          Your inability to discuss hockey on a blog in a mature manner when you disagree with people is not my problem Odielicious, it is yours. Your juvenile taunts are merely comedic; they would embarrass a thoughtful person. In my opnion, they should earn you the boot, but this isn’t my blog, so I defer to Dave and the others that run it.

          • Odielicious says:

            You like that right? That definitely should be a banned comment. LMAO! You are weak and your post’s are weak. Sorry if I offend you…hope it doesn’t hurt when you fall from grace high up there on your own mountain top.

            I give reena credit for his post on Day…Your comment not so much. Could have atleast looked up Day’s team history and seen the kid is constantly moving from team to team in the OHL and has a history of character flaws. But you went in light and gave Reena a ton to work with. Good for you.

            • Reenavipul says:

              Once again, if you wrote if the sky was blue, I’d have to look twice.

              Day hasn’t moved from team to team because of character flaws(which were his brother’s to begin with:) he moved from Mississauga to Windsor because the Rangers didn’t like what was going on there with his development.

              Day moved from Windsor to Kingston because the Spits decided to become sellers while the Fronts went all in(and might lose 1st round.)

              Your inability to get these basic facts right, let alone your thoughtless opinions, make me wonder why your handle isn’t Dunning Kruger.

              • Odielicious says:

                Bro I gave you credit with Day and stayed out of the convo for that reason. You seemed to have a real grip on the kid.

                My point was to pete and how soft and weak his post’s are. And his overall lack of depth. He brought nothing to the conversation. I don’t know anything about any of the kids. I have done no homework on them and only know what I read on the internet. And I admit that freely. Hence why I steered clear of that conversation.

                But you can call me names and keep misinterpreting everything I write as thoughtless. Thats fine. I will stay clear of you and as long as you do the same your panties wont get bunched up.

                I am pretty sure his brother died…and that was what dropped him in his draft year. He was having issues handling it and all the pressure of being so young and playing at that level and all the expectations they placed on him because of it.

              • Reenavipul says:

                No need to explain yourself, your prior posts explain it all.

                Best of luck in life, you’ll need it.

        • Mancunian Candidate says:

          Odie, you’re a disgrace. Go away.

    • tanto says:

      Maybe he wouldn’t be such an easy target if there was a modicum of flexibility in his coaching style. You tailor your coaching to the players you have, not the other way around.

      PS: Chytil was the 21st pick, not the 28th.

      • Odielicious says:

        Tanto….how would I ever have figured that when I said calling all drones you would show up? Just missing one more and I know he is dying to spew his venom.

        So how does one tailor a coaching system that lacks 2 legit centers. 3 to 4 legit defenders and also a 3rd or 4th line not deserving a spot on a AHL roster let alone a NHL one? Honestly …please reply? I know you wont cause there is no system for this horrible team that was put on the ice this season.

        Granted, AV at some point had a full roster and the team didn’t perform great. But how long did that honestly last? Yet this is all because of his deployment of players …yeah that is it. That is the reason the Rangers suck. Not that when Zibenjad got hurt his best option for a 1c was DD. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        I don’t care what his actual draft spot was…all I care about is how we picked with the 7th overall pick Lias Andersson. And the guy we picked with our own actually pick made the team. Whether that was the 21st or 31st pick makes no difference. The lower seeded kid outplayed the kid we took 15 spots in advance and traded a boat load for to get.

        I would trade Lias …Raanta …DeAngelo…right now for Stepan. I in my humble opinion we win that trade hands down. But yeah it was a good trade and makes perfect sense. The front office has consistently show us how well they can evaluate their talent pool year after year…yet you drones keep going on about AV and how he sucks.

        • tanto says:

          If you can’t get a simple short term fact right like Chytil was drafted at 21 and not 28, why should anyone trust anything else you say? When you make a stupid comment like “when Zibenjad got hurt his best option for a 1c was DD. LMAO!” when you had both Hayes and Miller healthy, then why should anyone take you seriously?

    • orangemike says:

      Odie these are some of the funniest things I’ve read on this sorry board for months, but don’t you know all of the posters here are hockey geniuses? Every coach is a fool, or a clown; doesn’t know anything about hockey. This guy should be playing, this guy should be on the bench, this guy should be in Hartford, this guy should be shot. Next season, when Vigneault has been fired, the new coach will be the same. After 15 games, the coach will need to be fired, and all of the players traded.

      The only good thing is it’s not only this board. I went on a Michigan State board, just for fun, after they lost to Syracuse over the weekend. Ranting and raving about Tom Izzo. Tom Izzo! This guy should never coach again, what an idiot, losing to a bozo like Jim Boeheim. Two guys who have like 9,000 wins between them, and like fifty Final Fours. Hilarious. I just use it as comic relief, just like much of what is on this board.

      And can you all really call yourselves Ranger fans, wanting the team to finish below the Islanders? The Islanders? Real fans would never think like that, ever.

      Have a nice spring, everyone. Regards- orange

    • Walt says:

      You know if the coach didn’t repeat the same mistakes over, and over, well maybe we wouldn’t be so critical of him. How many times has he forced a system upon players who aren’t suited for it?

      Case in point, Girardi is slow a foot, the defense AV runs needs defenders who are nimble, and quick, of which Dan isn’t. Time and again he put Dan in the most critical time of the game, only to have the guy fail again. Now Cooper runs a different operation, and Dan can function within it. Had AV been a thinking man, maybe he would have changed things around so his players are put into a situation where they could succeed!!!!!!

  7. Rjcy says:

    As for AV….bottom line is a good coach has his team ALWAYS intense and competing. A great coach combines that with strategy and wins championships. See: Belichik, W. AVs teams..Habs, canucks, NYR, never have intensity. They have pretty skill. Halfway there, but no cigar and, more importantly, through little to do with AV. Mister October for sure, but this is hockey not baseball. Fans will stick behind a team they feel is under manned or outcoached but still intense. They will not stick by the inverse. I have watched NYR since 1968 or 69 and had tickets for decades. MSG does not rock, and that is the reason. So even if only for ticket sales, merchandising and dolans pocketbook, AV must go

    • EZ Rider says:

      Short memory fella. Were they competing when they came back from 3-1 against the pens and next year the Caps? Was the building rocking? The fallacy here is that situations change. It worked pretty well before. Not Parcells well, not Scotty Bowman well, but pretty well.

      Those times seem far in the past and it is time to chart a new course with a new coach and system.

      • Leetchie Nut says:

        Fyi, that ’14 team came back and beat the Pens bc MSL’s mom died. Sad but completely true. Frances St. Louis doesn’t pass away, we get bounced in 5. No question. The emotion from that circumstance galvanized the team like nothing else could’ve. Had zero to do with coaching or even talent. Pure emotion and Cinderella run. Plain and simple.

        • EZ Rider says:

          We all know that about MSL’s mom. Thanks for the FYI, dude, lol. But that doesn’t really serve as proof of your point, does it, especially considering all the gritty games they won that year, the next year (without MSL) and how the players fought and the building rocked.

          Friend, we’re on the same side. We want a coaching change. All I’m asking is you try to give a little credit where it is due.

    • Mintgecko says:

      I can always tell who watched hockey back then and you clearly never watched it or seen AV’s old teams play.

      First off have you ever heard of Maxim Lappierre? That was AV’s boy in MTL and in Vancouver. He’s a mix of Avery and Hartnell and brought nothing but intensity for the club’s. His game was like those previous names I mention.

      His team in Vancouver was always chippy. They didn’t have the Bruins edge but the amount of skill with edge made for a more fluid intensity for the game of hockey. It’s like saying the Pitts teams of 08-13 weren’t chippy at all because they have a few stars.

      Your idea that AV is hurting the pockets of MSG and Dolan is laughable.

  8. Emile the Cat says:

    Man, I am passionate about the Rangers. But being passionate also means venting frustrations, as well as, extolling the excitement of great hockey play. AV has borne the brunt of a lot frustration venting, partly because he deserves it and he is the easiest target.

    Maybe it’s my personal perception, but the Rangers have never been the Broadway bullies (sorry Fred Shero, you tried) but I have never seen a Ranger team play with less grit (Heart) in so many years, maybe ever. It seems as if nobody has anybody’s back, there’s very little “crease” animosity on BOTH ends of the ice, teammates get facials and cross checks and hardly anyone joins the fray for support.

    I’m not saying start brawls, but it just seems like they could care less if Zucc gets mauled or Hank is molested during a goal scrum. One thing I’ve always noted in most successful teams is that you don’t f**k around with our teammates. Thank you forever Mark Messier and Adam Graves. Correct me if I am wrong, but that is the very biggest problem here.

    • Orland says:

      Decent observation but far from our biggest problem. 1. We have a crappy d particularly unsuited to AV’s man to man scheme. Look how well Holden’s playing in Boston vs. here. 2. We have NO all star level players .; at all; not 1!
      We won’t turn things around until both are successfully addressed.

      • Mintgecko says:

        Yup just alot of hype in individuals that fans like to act like their #1. Team Hayes and I use to be team JT even though I knew when push comes to shove Hayes would stay here.

        Those were our guys who could post up elite numbers. JT needed straight up elites to do that with and Hayes needs top 6 names, a tad bit more OZ starts and a full year of playing on one of the PP’s.

        We can only hope that Chytil and Andersson develop at least like them by the time they hit 23-24 years old. A part of me feels like If they will end up being 40-50 point players and have a average two-way play with Andersson being a little better in his own end than Chytil.

        Zib and Kreider need way to many moving parts to become top line player’s. If it was that simple than the Sens would have kept their potential top 6 center. Kreider would have been elite by now but the next best thing for him would be to be in a position like JT is in where he’s surrounded by top 10 players.

  9. Leatherneck says:

    Watching the Souix St Marie team…Barrett Hayton…Rasmus Sandin

    What’s impressive is that out Tim Gettinger is the Captain…and visible when on the ice

    Both Hayton and Sandin also very visible

    Tim Gettinger is NHL caliber player….sooner rather than later

    • Leatherneck says:

      Hiya Larry….Mo said hi earlier

    • Reenavipul says:

      Gettinger is a bottom 6 NHL player, but the kind of guy you need on your team. Can fight, but not a brawler. Great skater. Fast with size. He might do half a year in Hartford, but it shouldn’t be much longer than that.

      Day’s assist last night was a beaut. Took the puck from end to end, no look backhand dish for the one timer. At his size, when he’s carrying speed, only Zdeno Chara is stopping him. He’s a freight train with lateral movement.

      • Reenavipul says:

        I’ve been reading things where Day had fallen down the prospect pecking order even before Hejak & Lindgren. That’s nuts.

        Day is an immovable James Patrick. Can break up the rush by angling his player out wide before they get to the blue line, won’t put up a ton of points but can play PP2 and would be dangerous on the PK because his size and speed means he’ll take 2 players to try and get the puck off him.

        • Peter says:

          Hmm, Day seems to have all the skills, maybe there are issues with his effort? It would be a shame, I have been looking forward to him progressing to the NHL.

          • Reenavipul says:

            Not that I’ve ever seen. The 1st time at Traverse City he would run around like a headless chicken at times, but since then he’s just gotten better and better.

            Maybe it’s an issue of production not meeting expectations, but as a Defenceman it’s an issue between producing and taking care of your own end. Even then, he was just shy of 1ppg.

  10. Odielicious says:

    This team is and has been very soft since he has become the coach. But again to lay all the blame on a highlighted target is all to easy. Here is the lay up kid now just slam it home.

    You can’t force a player to stick up for another, but you can punish a player for doing so. I can’t remember a time where it was clear as glass that AV punished someone for sticking up for a teammate.

    Now that pun aside….the heart and soul of this team for the last few years has been Zuc. Atleast from a fans perspective. And what did the front office do to reward his heart? Oh we are going to trade Hagelin, Brassard, Polliot, basically anyone who you liked and got along with to show you just how much we as a front office value hard work and determination.

    And then just to undermine our Captain and his legitimacy we are going to trade his best friend and buy out his D partner since the start of his career, the moment he shows any weakness. This as a fan is where my frustration lies.

    It might have a little to do with a coach, but really all the blame lies with Sather and Gorton. Year after year trading away guys like Cally, Duby, Brass, Hagelin, and now Mac and Jt for essentially nothing since this front office can never properly evaluate talent anyway. If it is not a Gretzky/messier type player trade him for a bag of pucks till we get the Next Great One.

  11. wwpd says:

    I was thinking more like 2004, when the rangers had one early pick and one later pick, spent on al montoya and lauri korpikoski, rather than 1999 with two early picks whose names i won’t even mention. that’s assuming some of these picks can be used to consolidate into the middle of the round even. #27 and #30 picks from Boston and TB or wherever those shake out look quite a bit different than even drafting in the 15-20 range. In the end though, even in the recent history we can point to some succes and failure in every range of the 1st round.

  12. tanto says:

    I really wish everybody would stop with this nonsense that fans are just blaming AV because he’s an easy target. He’s made himself an easy target and he’s made himself the major factor in the team’s precipitous fall from grace. AV is inflexible, he doesn’t adjust properly to changing circumstances … he doesn’t coach to our strengths … the systems must fit (be adjusted to) the players, not the other way around. This is his crime, the punishment must be the axe.

    That said of course he isn’t all the Rangers’ issues rolled into one, but he’s the easiest issue to fix — fix AV first, then re-evaluate.

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      That system may work if we had 3-4 more high level pieces.Thats everyone gripe. He doesn’t change anything.He doesn’t watch any tape or ignores info during the game or just plain can’t see what’s going on in front of him and make adjustments.Player deployment is horrid.
      We don’t need a fighter,we need someone that can mix it up , or a few guys that can mix it up .JT showed this but is long gone now!

      • Odielicious says:

        King in all honesty I think the word on AV prior was all the amazing work he and his team does with video. Really giving the players a step up on the opponent.

        I will agree in game adjustments are his weakness.

        Player deployment is not horrible, it is his player talent pool that lacks. He had to use JT in 20 different ways cause he never had a 3rd line center to start the season. The year we went to the Cup no one was complaining about his deployment of personal then.

        • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

          Us being weak down the middle ruined the season pretty much in a nutshell.Stepan had to go so we had to just deal with that.Having the real Staal and using him on the wing was a joke and could potentially have been a good fit till one of these 2 kids can get going but that chance was blown and at a price.

    • Bobby10 says:

      To lose guys on the bench, play your worst players the last few minutes of a tight game, and to not change your strategy when other teams find your weakness is the coaching staffs jobs. I honestly loved av as coach, on the regular season. Come playoffs I don’t know where his head is at.

      After the trade deadline, spoons and vlad looked great. Imo, they learned av’s system and fell of a cliff.

      I think av is going to go after the season allong with ruff.

  13. Lon says:

    From everything I read, Anderson potential at best, is 2nd line centre, Chytil is at most, 3rd line.
    After these two picks, I
    fear what poor choices the brain trusts will make
    this year with all these picks. Many more places to screw up.