Some Wednesday thoughts

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januvia 10mg valium It’s Wednesday, and I honestly have a little bit of writer’s block. Blame the NCAA tournament, I guess. There are a bunch of little things on my mind, but nothing big enough to make a full post. Then it hit me. How about a musings post? Works for me. Hope it works for you. 1. Jimmy Vesey got a hat trick on Monday night. Good for the kid. Happy for him. He’s a decent bottom six forward, capable of 15 goals, 20 points. He may get some penalty killing minutes. However there is a growing –and very vocal– group that thinks this kind of production belongs in the top-six. I staunchly disagree. Even based on the current production, he isn’t a top-six forward. Simply put, 15 goals and 20 points doesn’t cut it.

thuoc cefixime 100mg dang goi 2. Pavel Buchnevich. Mika Zibanejad. Vlad Namestnikov. Chris Kreider. Mats Zuccarello. Ryan Spooner. Kevin Hayes. Even on a bad Rangers team, he’s not even in the top seven in forwards. So let’s cool it with the Vesey for MVP talk. That’s not to say he is a bad player. It’s just level setting expectations and coming back to reality.

watch 3. I’m intrigued to see what happens with Alex Georgiev and Ondrej Pavelec next summer. Georgiev has looked good in his short stay thus far. Pavelec looked good all year. Do the Rangers keep both, just in case? Pavelec would need to be re-signed, which shouldn’t be much of a problem. Having depth and a good goalie in Hartford is going to be key, so that’s the path I would hope they take. Georgiev could use a season there before taking over as the backup. 4. For the first time in our lives, the Rangers have cap space as a viable, tradeable asset. They have $25 million in cap space next year, without even accounting for a salary cap increase. If the ceiling goes to $80 million, as rumored, then it’s closer to $30 million. They have five guys due someone decently sized raises, but I will bet money some of the higher salary guys will be cut loose via trade at the draft. Jeff Gorton said it himself, he isn’t done.

tegretol 200 mg 160 tablet 5. One of those guys that could be gone? Hayes. I know it probably won’t be a popular move, but he’s very similar in production to the recently acquired Namestnikov and Spooner. All three are RFAs. Depth never hurt anyone, but I can see it happening. Call it a feeling. 6. I don’t see a future for Rob O’Gara on this club once the blue line is healthy. He hasn’t been overly impressive in his stay. I can’t say I’m shocked by this. He looked to be a warm body throw-in, included with the third rounder for Nick Holden. As for the rest of the kids playing right now, the jury is still out. They’ve shown flashes of good, flashes of bad. So we shall see. There’s a lot of work to be done.

61 thoughts on “Some Wednesday thoughts

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:21 am

    source site Good morning to all, hope all is well. Vesey is nothing more than a 4th line guy, with the top potential being third line????? I’d like to see him put on some muscle mass, and develop a chip on him, but he certainly isn’t top line material!!!

    lisinopril 5 mg reviews Georgiev Vs Pavelec, tough call on both. If I were a betting man I’d say both are signed to two way contracts, and they fight it out for the 2nd spot. I was thinking that Alex would be our third goalie when Igor arrives, and would be put up in the expansion draft??????

    chloromycetin online games If Hayes isn’t gone yet, he won’t be. Look he can PK, has decent ability to dish out passes, and if push turns to shove, can play wing. Why are people ready to see him hit the pavement??????

    nizoral online shopping O’Gara who? If they sign him, it would be for depth down on the farm. With the number of really good young prospects coming on board, and with the likes of Sean Day, numbers are working against him. He could be a throw in to help facilitate a deal!!!!!!

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:34 am

      danazol mims online Vesey to me is a Jesper fast with a bit more upside and finishing touch. So a third liner…. then again fast has played quite a bit of top 6. But I believe that is a lack of options/faith/ tolerance from AV.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:48 am
        Permalink Tyler There are many more options now than before, that’s the reason I said 4th line for Jimmy!!!

        betnovate c buy online With Fast & Andersson, this is a solid 4th line that could shut down, has enough foot speed, and could kill you offensively as well. Isn’t it great to have choices, I love it!!!!!

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:52 am

          cialis 20 mgs Oh absolutely. When chytil and Andy are here options we’ll be plenty. And many more prospects to come with draft.

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 9:49 am

 Exactly Walt . Best option for a third line that can chip in a little O . I assume Andersson can PK , so have him and Fast as one pair . If we can’t sign a 1C at or after the draft
          Spooner Hayes -#####
          Chtil -Name -#####
          Vesey – Andy -Fast
          Don’t now if Zucc is going to be here after the draft if so 3LW and than we have a choice of trying to resign Nash or Grabs or just keep with the program and play the kids . But we do need a few older guys to lead by example .
          Now the D will be some what of a work in progress Staal if he is still on the team which i believe he will be with the contract he has needs to be 7D with spot time for injuries . Smith if not packaged will be one of the D men coming back next year. Skjei and Shatty so, that make up 4 of the D and than you can choose from Pionk – Gilmour – ADA -and we still have the rights to the other Russian kid Berskalov , boy i destroyed that spelling . But maybe a yera over in the KHL helped him . Only free agent i would go after is Carlson
          If St Louis misses the POs try to package a couple of our late 1st round picks and go after Tarasenko , they have stated they are going to be making changes . Just a thought

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 8:27 am

        casodex 50 mg indicazioni Jesper Fast > Jimmy Vesey

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:40 am

    buy generic viagra online mastercard 1. Vesey is definitely not top 6. I would even look to trade him if his salary demands are too high.
    3. I would keep both. Neither will be expensive and one will go to Hartford. Not projecting a great year next year no point in paying up for a back up
    4. Let’s hope we use that cap space very wisely. No more long term contracts with NMC’s please. That said I love the cap space.
    5. Of the 3(Hayes, Name, Spooner) I think Hayes is the one I would say stays. Unless you’re trying to get rid of the old culture. He’s got size on Spooner and Namestnikov and more grit for similar production. He should also have a lower cap hit. It’s a tough call between the 3, but someone needs to go. Too much sameness.
    6. Rob O who? He’s an AHL player.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 8:50 am

      ciproxin 500 mg dosaggio per cistite I’d think Hayes stays as well. He’s shown this year he can eat some tough minutes. Spooner is not a match up center. Namestnikov might be, but to move Hayes there can’t be any “might” in that statement.

      With Chytil and Andersen both potentially in the mix next year we would be best suited with a center who can face other team’s top lines to lessen their loads. I believe Hayes is best suited for that role. He will help to stabilize things for us.

      I would move whichever get us the better return between Spooner and Namestnikov if forced. That said I don’t really agree with the notion that we have 3 of the same player so one has to be moved:

      Kreider – Zib – Buchnevich
      Zucarello – Namestnikov – Fast
      Spooner – Hayes – Chytil
      Vesey – Andersen –

      ^we have room for everyone. We have plenty of cap space. Don’t make a trade for the sake of making a trade, only if it’s worth our while.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 8:57 am


        Agree with all except putting Fast in the top six, hands of stone. Maybe, as rumored, Nash returns and he is placed in that slot, and Fast goes to the fourth line!!!!!!!!

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:35 am

          Thanks, Walt. Those weren’t necessarily my line combos for next year. Just a listing of who we have to show we aren’t really at the point where depth is forcing a trade.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:59 am

            Not to mention, for a team that sent David Effing Desharnais out in C1/C2 situations this year out of necessity, and with Mika’s struggles staying on the ice (which I do not hold over his head as a reason to send him packing as some do, but also need to be recognized from an objective standpoint), you’d think “too many centers” wouldn’t really be in the front office’s vocabulary right now.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 2:37 pm


            I misunderstood, thought you were suggesting these lines.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 7:53 am

    1. Vesey is definitely not a game changer, but the team is really bad… I wouldn’t judge it yet, as of now yes, he doesn’t make him looking as a top 6, but he is a big guy with the good skating, and not that wooden hands and Fast….

    3. Let Pavelec go, just doesn’t have sense to keep him beyond this season, this team is in the development mode, and to fill 25-30 games you don’t need 2 backups

    4. After last 10 month I am afraid to give Gorton such a money

    5. They will sell Namestnikov, he is just odd man here with Andersson and Chytil progress

    6. Find the trade for…

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 8:33 am

    Georgiev vs. Pavelec: ‘dI say that the kid has shown already that he is a capable backup in the NHL. I’d let Pavelec go and use his cap hit somewhere else. He has been fine, but he is not the future of the team.

    Namestnikov v. Hayes: Keep Namestnikov around until Chytil and Andersson arrive, then ship him out unless you want to put him on the wing until you can replace him. I like Hayes and feel he has more upside and better size than Namestnikov.

    I think Vesey is a decent player with some grit and decent skills. He isn’t top 6, but he is worth keeping unless better options come around. Seems like a good kid to me.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 3:39 pm

      I like the kid, but are 4 games really enough of a sample for the big leagues? I think we’ll know by end of the year.
      Also, there is a possibility of resigning Pavelec, then flipping him for at least a low pick. He’s a good enough of a #2 to fetch something back.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 4:15 pm

        I guess the reason I am saying that he seems to be a capable backup is mainly his poise, combined with his positioning. The kid looks like he doesn’t get flustered and he has faced a barrage of shots in every game he’s played and is hardly ever out of position. He looks technically sound and his movements are quiet. So, despite the small sample size I thought that he had shown what he is made of already. Besides, continuing to work with Benny should make him even better by next season.

        Saw him in an interview; Georgiev looks like he’s a kid and could go to the Prom and no one would find him out of place. 🙂

        That all being said, Pavelec has been fine as a backup and he too has played well. I wouldn’t be upset if he was kept around, but Georgiev does seem to be a great option for backup.

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 5:58 pm

          Totally agree. He has the pedigree (I think he won silver with Russia in World Juniors), and played well in Hartford. Still, remember the Hamburgler in Ottawa? The NHL graveyard is full of goalies who put together a solid streak, or even a season, then flamed out.

          Overall, it doesn’t really matter. Allaire can probably take AV and turn him into an all star backstop. Although, AV would then insist on using “his guys” as pads.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 6:34 pm

            Brilliant last line. Almost spat beer all over my phone.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 9:11 am

    Vesey is not good. I’d package him off somewhere, he’s not gonna be worth whatever his RFA contract is. Vesey’s scored 1/3 of his season’s goals in 2 games. Love how people talk about a 6’ 3”, 207 pounder needing to “add size”—he’s big enough, it’s just that Vesey is not that effective physically. He’s not impressive at any particular aspect of the game.

    And as far as Hayes goes, I’d like to see him traded as well, simply because he’s another guy due a hefty raise on his next deal. If NYR didn’t have to pay Hayes in the $5.5 million annual salary range I wouldn’t mind seeing him stay, but he’s gonna get that kind of money from some team. I’d like to see Namestnikov get that payday from NYR instead, he’s a more active and dynamic player than Hayes. Namestnikov is also a better defender and way better at the possession game than Hayes.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:36 am

      Vesey has been sneaky-bad-to-sneaky-atrocious for long stretches of his career so far. He also has been often deployed questionably by AV, in fairness (namely any time he’s been in the top six). The old-school crowd loves him because he appears to be playing hard, but it is a very fair point that he’s not actually really that above average at any one thing. Willingness to go into the corners/engage in board play (something I see cited fairly often as a positive of his game by the pro-Vesey crowd) is fine for example; I have no issue with that so long as the player recovers well if they don’t come up with the puck…however, he’s just not particularly menacing in those situations. As pointed out, he isn’t exactly a small fry, so there may not be much more to be had from him even if he does pick up a couple sacks of potatoes’ worth of bulk. The drive is there but I just don’t know as the skill to be top six or the raw strength to match a true grinding style ever will be. I view him as kind of a “tweener” in that regard, but a solid-enough fourth liner though in any event, and I will consider it an overpay based on reputation if he is compensated for any role more than that. We know the Rangers FO during the Sather era has been prone to reputation overpay, so I won’t be holding my breath on that.

      I personally have no qualms with all three of Hayes, Namestnikov, and Spooner being retained, but I don’t expect all three will be for longer terms. Hayes still has the highest offensive ceiling of the three in my book. He’s got size, is faster than many give him credit for, is tougher than many give him credit for (although surely not to be confused with being a bruiser; not saying that), and has ultra-soft hands for a player of that build. I like Namestnikov plenty too, and he is more proficient defensively IMO (and according to a HERO chart, to note) so I’d rank Hayes 1A and Namestnikov 1B. I’d play Hayes as C2 and Namestnikov as C3 next season in theory. I think Spooner has the lower ceiling of the three, but part of his value, like Namestnikov, is already-established positional flexibility.

      Obviously I don’t want to see them significantly overpaid, but these guys are not 32 and about to enter usual decline years. I’m really not sure why some people say they have to go simply because they aren’t truly prospects anymore (not that you did MC, just putting that out there). The Rangers are not looking at a five year tank, which is why they weren’t targeting raw younger prospects with more potential upside but needing to invest the resources and time to get them there. I suspect that they are honestly planning to return to the playoffs year after next with a side eye on maybe even getting lucky and sneaking in next year.

      Gorton could have pilfered more later round draft picks or younger/more raw prospects with a quantity over quality approach if he wanted to…he didn’t though; he chose NHL-ready/proven-players and guys who look perhaps on the cusp on purpose. Now, maybe he does intend to flip one or more of the current NHL level acquisitions…but point being, the safer path if he was really looking for a longer rebuild would have been to target more prospects/picks then and there rather than risk not getting as much for the current NHL level guys down the line, or injury ruining their trade value, etc. I’m not so sure at all that he doesn’t see all of these guys as cogs in the wheel moving forward. Time shall tell.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:42 am

      If we were to normalize for quality of competition, does Namestnikov still outperform Hayes?

      Also, I’d like to see how Hayes fares under a different coach/system. He has all the tools- size, patience, vision- which would allow him to thrive in the possession game.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:04 am

        Before this year, Hayes’ possession numbers were horrendous. To normalize for Namestnikov I don’t think is necessary—Hayes came into the league on a pretty darn good team too, after all—but it’s fair to assign some of the fault for Hayes’ weak possession numbers to Vigneault’s system. After all, Vlad’s possession numbers (in a small NYR sample size) have collapsed since joining NYR. I agree that one year Hayes is probably gonna put it all together and have a 25 goal, 45 assists type of season, but he’s a risk long term IMO.

        What I don’t like about Hayes is simple—he got cocky and fat after his rookie campaign and wasted his 2nd season with the Rangers, and I think the huge hit Stamkos laid on him in the ‘15 semis destroyed Hayes’ effectiveness in the league for awhile. He can be neutralized by hitters, and doesn’t have the tenacity to defend himself. I don’t like the idea of giving him a longterm contract, complacency seems to be an issue with him. Irrationally, I also hate the fact that he’s often pictured on instagram in Patriot and Red Sox gear. We get it, Kevin—you’re from Boston. We get it. Take that crap back to the hub, why don’t ya.

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:51 am

          He could wear Islanders or Devils gear in his personal time for all I care, so long as he plays well! Most players get their cages rattled at some point early in their careers; I wouldn’t personally make too awfully much of a gnarly hit in 2015 in regard to his trajectory today. He’s obviously not skating around looking to throw bombs out there, and he will not be mentioned in a listing of reputedly-gritty NHL players…but he also isn’t out there ducking hits or coughing the puck up into open space or an opposing player constantly when pressure is incoming, either. He’s no Xavier LaFlamme.

          As for his second year, cocky…quite possibly. Fat…overstated/exaggerated, although perhaps not in his best shape, sure. He came in this year having corrected both of those issues as far as I can tell, though. Just hasn’t translated to production due in large part IMO to his deployment and the type of game that AV has made it clear that Kevin needs to try and execute in order to get his minutes.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:02 pm

            I did say that my hatred of Boston sports teams has reached irrational levels. Seeing pics of him at practice in a Brady jersey just bugs the freaking hell out of me.

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:20 pm

          Are we really blaming AV for Namestikov’s possession numbers going down? He played with Stamkos/Kucherov with Tampa. It just shows why those stats can be so misleading. It isn’t AV, he was playing with offensive monsters all year with Tampa…now not so much.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:33 pm

            There’s a ten point difference in possession numbers for Vlad between Tampa and New York (52.5 Corsi in Tampa, 42.1 in NY). Granted it’s only been 7 games in a Ranger uniform but that difference is pretty stark. And considering Vigneault’s teams have had bad possession numbers over the past 3 seasons especially, due to his passive counterattacking d system, why yes—it’s a relevant point to bring up.

            • Mar 14, 2018 at 2:04 pm

              I concur. There likely is a correlation, here. AV’s system is reputably bad in two main areas: possession and shot prevention. Maybe all of the ten point swing on a short sample is not the system, sure….line-mates do count…but some of it surely is due to the system as well.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Seems like every one wants the Rangers to have 18, 20 goal scorers on the team just not going to happen . 20 next year might be CK20 -Buch -Ziba -Hayes . Name scored most of his goals and points playing along side Stamkos and Kucherov ,hell Miller got the Hat last night playing with them . It is what it is and who ur playing with

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:10 am

      Nothing says “JT Miller” like a hat trick in a 7-4 loss. Zero plus-minus for the game somehow, on a night he scores 3.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:39 am

        Playing with Kucherov and Stamkos helps

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:39 am

        And McD scored their 4th goal

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:23 pm

        He scored 2 Power Play goals…so really only on for one goal against.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:41 am

    DeAngelo out 3-4 weeks with a sprained ankle. Looked a hell of alot worse

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:43 am

      Phew. Glad there was no break. That looked ugly

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:57 am

      Yeah, that looked awful. Wonder if he wears his skates a little loose or something. For the ankle to buckle that much while strapped in, looked like a break to me.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:39 pm

        It’s a high ankle sprain, otherwise called a dislocation of the fibula.

        If AV hadn’t let the cat out of the bag in the post game presser, they’d be calling it a lower body injury.

        3-4 weeks suggests it isn’t that bad, but considering that’s how much time is left in the season I wouldn’t put too much stock in it. That would make him able to play in Hartford the last weekend of their season, something to keep in mind.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:45 am

    MC 2 of the goals were on the PP you get no + and only get a – if you are scored on SH . He had 20+ min played with Stamkos and Kucherov . I bet Fasty would score playing with these 2 guys . Just saying maybe AV used him wrong by playing with his head too much , just as he is doing now with Buchnevich.
    AV has a big fault with tunnel vision his way or no way no in between . AV is a great coach but might not be a great motivator to some younger players .
    Does he ever bench Staal for making a mistake , he can not find the puck at his feet any more and is very slow with his decision making , plus when was the last time Marc hit the net with a shot

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Just took a look at Rangers schedule. Should be good enough to get to bottom 5. Expect no more than 3 or 4 pts for rest of season. Ariz, Buff , Ott, Van, NYR.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:14 am

    I’ll take vesey on a third line over peashooter hobbit on a first line any day.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 3:54 pm

      you should take a lap while you’re at it

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 11:54 am

    No Luck with Hobey Baker Boys…

    I thought this kid was supposed to be something special?
    Maybe with a different coach?
    Maybe with more time?

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:06 pm

    I was just looking over stats of guys we dealt.. Grabner has yet to record a point in the 8 games since the trade. Things that make you go hmmmmm…

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:18 pm

      Grabs was perfect for the Rangers, no doubt about that. He is the one guy I’d re-sign if his contract is not too rich. He flourished with the Rangers and played so well.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:07 pm

    A lot is going to depend on what happens on draft day and what money the 3 will seek.

    Spooner has been nothing short of brilliant, and I was impressed with him when he was with the B’s

    Namestnikov has impressed me…kid is physical….has talent

    Hayes is good to go

    Howden will be a key in how the Rangers view his development and the approach they take
    Is he a mid season call up…Wing or Center?

    I would keep Hayes and Namestnikov and trade Zuc and Spooner and possibly Skjei on draft day. I would offer a trade proposal to Winnipeg for Trouba. Trouba and some of the silly gives to get though I would not do.

    We need to be selecting higher than 9 or 10….preferably 5-7 range and hope to get Wahlstrom…then immediately trade and draft Bouchard
    1 Dahlin
    2 Bovqist, Zadina, Svechnikov
    3 Bovqist, Zadina, Svechnikov
    4 Bovqist, Zadina, Svechnikov
    5 Hughes
    6 Tkachuk
    7 Wahlstrom Bouchard
    8 Wahlstrom Bouchard
    9 Dobson
    10 Lundestrom, Ty Smith, Veleno, Farabee (These guys 10-14)

    Lundestrom has shot up from mid 2nd early 3rd into mid 1st

    Again…..this draft is waaaayyyy too deep to not take the opportunity to maximize it. Next year you are getting 10 good prospects vs this year of 40 food prospects…Do you guys get this?

    I want another 1st and high to mid level 2nd if not 2 number 2’s in that range plus the 1st….Hope for early exit Boston (preferably) or Tampa
    Depth is going to start here

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 1:09 pm

      Boqvist back up with the men’s team. Zero points, -3 and on for 4 goals against in a 8-3 pasting by Frölunda.

      I wouldn’t have him in the 1st round, too many red flags. He’s like Erik Karlsson except shorter, without the offense and even worse skills in his own end. One week in August he looked great, but his body of work this year screams 2nd round. Can’t compete against men on two levels, his production in junior isn’t all that great considering he was playing almost every other shift.

      Watched the last few games of Zadina and boy was I not impressed. Don’t like the skating(doesn’t generate power when turning) don’t like him losing battles for the puck, just looks like a guy who feasts on poor defense that is throughout the Q.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 1:29 pm

        Reenavipul where does one get to see things like Frölunda games and the other Euro games you often mention? I’d find them fascinating if I could get them.

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 1:53 pm

          I subscribe to the channels that carry Swedish & Finnish hockey(C More & Ruutu respectively) along with Fanseat,(for Mestis & French hockey) Svensk Swedish junior), Sky Ticket(for EBEL) and Telekom Sport for the DEL. The only countries where I’m SOL is Czechia(because their website sucks) and Switzerland (which is even more complicated than Sweden.)

          Ruutu is available on Apple TV for download, but you have to register & subscribe online. It seems like you can watch every game from the season if you’re willing to scroll back far enough.

          C More is weird that there’s no geofencing, but you have to have a Swedish credit card number to pay for it. Hopefully they’ll start taking Apple Pay to get past that. They only give you the last round of games and I’m to lazy to get a DVR that I can strap across the Apple TV.

          I’ll try and post a link to what I’ve done and how you can pull this off.

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 4:17 pm

            Thank you very much for the information!

          • Mar 14, 2018 at 4:30 pm

            This is what I’ve written up as a generic (and incomplete) way to find hockey online:


      • Mar 14, 2018 at 5:51 pm

        Trust me Reena….he’ll go top 6

        • Mar 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm

          I don’t doubt it, but that doesn’t make it a good idea.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 12:46 pm

    A rare goofy article by you Dave. So a couple weeks of Spooner outperforming his ability and you’re trading Hayes? Spooner was reviled in Boston. Now, I have been pleasantly surprised by his overall play w/ the Rangers, but now we’re entertaining trading Hayes and giving Spooner a prime roll? You watch how fast that would blow up in their face.

    Also, Georgie is ready now. Pav needs to move on. The kid is poised and a capable backup. The playing time he’ll get next year will suit him well going forward. They are not winning a cup next year so play him, get him on line.

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 1:00 pm

      My only worry about Georgiev is losing him in the expansion draft but I agree, play him….here is another case how Lundqvist actually hurts the Rangers

      I really hope he waives his NMC and looks forward to going to a team that can win the Cup. I assure you he won’t win the Stanley Cup as a Ranger

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    Hayes should stay, I think he has been misused, let’s see if he does better after the coaching change. Vesey must go I would not put him on the 4th line with Fast and Anderson. PAV needs to be resigned and exposed in the expansion draft next year.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 3:50 pm

    All the Vesy haters on here going to hate this. i would keep him, he has heart goes to the net. Not afraid of the dirty areas, i like him on the 4th line next year.
    AV has got to go..

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      4th line until he prices himself out of that role. That’s the issue.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    It is to early to decide on goalies but I like the way Georgiev has played. I think its too early to label Vesey and say he is 3rd or 4th line or that he can or can not score. This is only his second year and I think he has been all over the place. Not sure what direction, if any, he has been given. He is a minus player in his first two years which is not good but consider not only his inexperience but how he is used. At times he is very noticeable and then he goes way. At times he plays hard and gets dirty but again at times you wouldn’t think he’s 6’3 over 200lbs. At times he has scored some pretty goals and hard working goals. I say with some positive direction from a coach or a veteran he may understand what he should bring to the table game in game out. Unfortunately the rangers have no such leader to drive a new guy. Guys like V and Hayes who come out of college were the kings in that pond. They play a certain way and now they must adapt to a different animal without going through the wars in the minors. They come here and everyone thinks they are destined to be leaders for us. Not that easy! Hayes has a better + – over 4 years but he seems to be given a longer leash and played top minutes with our supposed goal scorers. He is another frustrating guy with a 6’5 frame but you would never know. So is it fair to buttonhole Hayes as a third line guy? Think he could be more but so far like V he is inconsistent and at times comfortable. The best thing next season is the competition to be a top 6. Wake up call for a lot of guys. That’s why a coach and staff that can teach as well as hold players accountable regardless of who you are is vital. I would like to see these guys do a lot more before we decide to get rid of them.

  • Mar 14, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    Why do you Lundqvist lovers want him to stay…instead of going to a contending team…that’s mind boggling….hopefully his sanity kicks in and he’ll go

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 6:11 pm

      You’re the only one bringing up Lundqvist on this thread…and on most others as well.

      • Mar 14, 2018 at 8:38 pm

        Because I want him traded at the draft…and the topic was the draft and Georgiev,,,,and no I am not the only one

    • Mar 14, 2018 at 10:22 pm

      Leather I want him to stay for a whole bunch of reasons. 1) He is a tremendous goalie who has consistently been one of the best in the league since he entered in 2005. 2) He is the face of the franchise and the leader, heart, and soul of the team. 3) He has a NMC and every right to exercise it. 4) He is a great role model for the younger players with an unassailable work ethic. 5) He is a philanthropic presence in the community who works hard to represent the NYR brand. 6) He is the best option in net to lead the team to the Stanley Cup bar none for at least the next year or two. 7) He has the potential to be a great mentor for Georgiev and/or Shestyorkin. 8) He has worked his ass off for the franchise and deserves respect and the chance to see the rebuild through. 9) He doesn’t want to go anywhere. If and when he does, I will be totally supportive of it. Until then, or until his play declines (which does not appear to be imminent), I say let him play.

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