So far, two solid trades by Gorton

The Rangers are in full sell mode. Nick Holden and Michael Grabner are gone. Rick Nash is already out of the lineup pending a trade. David Desharnais isn’t being talked about, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s moved. Rumors are abound for Ryan McDonagh. The sell is on, and if the first two trades are telling us anything, it’s that Jeff Gorton is acting on his plan.

The rumors were that the Blueshirts were targeting prospects who were close to NHL ready over top picks. The logic makes sense. They have some great assets to sell, but the news was a bit of a scare. Targeting NHL ready kids can potentially mean sacrificing long term potential. It was worth keeping an eye on, but not worth worrying about at that moment.

Then Gorton made the first trade, sending Holden to Boston for Rob O’Gara and a third round pick. The Rangers turned a relatively bad defenseman that they acquired for a fourth round pick into a 24-year old defenseman and a third round pick. Just based off that, it’s a win. But O’Gara is already getting a look in the NHL. The jury is still out, though.

The Grabner trade is where we start to see the vision taking place. The Rangers could probably have grabbed a late first round pick and a mid prospect. But Gorton held out, and got an NHL ready kid in Yegor Rykov and what will likely be a mid second round pick. Remember that the Devils are likely one-and-done, so they are going to be in the 45-50 range for that pick. A top NHL ready defense prospect and a pick in the 45-50 range for a bottom six forward? Sign me up for that all day everyday.

This sets Gorton up nicely for a Nash trade, where the price will be higher than Grabner’s. We may be looking at a close to NHL ready prospect, a first round pick, and potentially more for Nash. Expect even more for McDonagh, if he’s moved.

The vision is there, and the execution has been spot on for the first two trades. It’s the big guns that are next. Two more home runs are needed before any celebrating can begin, though. But so far, so good for Gorton.

"So far, two solid trades by Gorton", 4 out of 5 based on 21 ratings.

103 thoughts on “So far, two solid trades by Gorton

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 9:14 am

    I give Gorton props for trying and the returns he has received for Holden and Grabner are positive trades in my eyes. He has a long way to go to be compared to Steve Yzerman, lets see what he gets for Nash and maybe Mcdonagh .

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 9:29 am

    I did not like the Grabner trade….only because I think he was worth a first. I know nothing of the Rykov kid to assess him.

    I also understand that some pieces wont move till the draft order is established. S not expecting too much activity.

    Tank into a top 5 pick. We should be a top 5 pick again in 2019….it’s a good start to getting better.

    Oilers and Islanders have proven….you don’t draft the best player available…you have to draft a system….sometimes it is the best player sometimes it’s not

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:12 am

      Don’t agree. Grabs is not worth a number one pick, IMO. And it looks like there was no GM who would offer a number one for a rent a player. Looks like Groton is going for size which we need. Pionk and Tony D are small for NHL defensemen although quick. O Gara looks solid and pretty physical. I’m tired of hearing the Rangers are soft and easy to play against.
      Nash is more of an elite player who should draw a number one. Lets hope..

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm

        You are not seriously comparing St Louis to Grabner are you????

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:43 pm

        Agree with you, Jerry.
        just saying….

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 7:55 am

        It is not always what he is worth it is what the market says he is worth and what they are willing to pay on the road to the cup.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:27 am

      35 year old aging and deteriorating st louis is worth two #1 picks and a top 6 forward [ callahan] ………..
      Grabner at 30 , tremendous speed and scoring ability is worth a #2 and # 5[ Rykov] ????????????
      Sorry, cant spin this any other way but rangers got hosed again!!!!!!!!!

      Given the current rangers mngt track record of 20 years of ineptitude and futility and horrific drafting and decision making [strallman, eric stall, st louis, hagelin, yandle, dan boyle etc etc ]
      its more than time for a clean sweep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:35 am


        That is indeed history, but the organization has improved very much! I don’t believe the Grabner return is bad at all. The young, big, skilled d-man Rykov has been scouted by us for some time now. He’s on the same team as our goalie in Russia, has played in the second best league in the world since age 18, and will work well back in our defense along with some of our more mobile guys, ADA, Pionk. The kid is NHL ready, so let’s hold judgement until such time he proves to be a dud, or a star……..

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:55 am

          I really hope you are right since its hard to watch this impotent team right now, but very few elite players are drafted in the 5th round…..
          And it doesn’t help when I see what eric staal is doing in Minnesota…..not used properly and apparently not good enough to play for AV……just like strallman…….
          Impossible to have faith in this management team, thats for sure……
          Desharnais, holland, mcleod, carey, neives, kampher, holden… have we ever dressed a worse team???

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:05 pm


            Please look at the current team as a diving competition, seeking to reach the bottom as fast as possible, in order to get a lottery shot at Dahlin!

            As to the 5th round picks, in general that’s the case, but in the case of Russians, GM’s are reluctant to draft them because of the unknown. Will they, or will they not come over to play in North America?

            The management in place is considerably better than when Sather was running the show, and our scouting is 10 fold better than it ever was, so I’m not as concerned as you may be. Keep the faith my man, things will get better starting Monday, after the trade deadline!!!!!!!!

            • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:50 pm

              I hope you are right….and after watching the last two games we are certainly on the way down……
              Now lets get a better haul for nash!!!
              And better yet, hopefully AV is gone by seasons end!!!

              • Feb 24, 2018 at 4:51 pm

                Now your thinking the right way, LOL!!!!!!!!!

            • Feb 25, 2018 at 7:17 am

              Have to agree with Wait folks who are belly aching might be very short sighted about what is going on here. This season is shot even if we made the playoffs it is shot. Fastest way to the bottom of the league is the fastest way to better #1 prospect draft pick. Giving these kids time to play and figure out NHL allows management time and eyes on who stays and who goes. It also might allow for future trades with assets we may have in the minors who can make a jump and help a team who has watched them play at NHL level. Rebuild is painful and exciting! But my real question is who is replacing AV because he has too go.

              • Feb 25, 2018 at 7:28 am

                This group had more than enough chances to win. Time to move on.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:46 am

        St. Louis’ contract was not expiring and Callahan’s was. And please ask Tampa if he has ever been a top 6 performer for them. Thank goodness we didn’t give Callahan $35 million because we’d all be having heart attacks ala the Girardi and Staal contracts. Was I happy we traded those number ones? No. But if McD, Staal and Girardi all don’t break bones in their lower legs, we win that Cup with StL and it makes the trade worth it. Injuries impact things and that’s the crapshoot. I’d rather be a fan of a team that goes for it than one that doesn’t. And I agree completely in what they are doing now.

        • Feb 25, 2018 at 5:57 am

          Ask TB about that contract they gave Cally. If he got that here it would have set the team back years.

          50 pts once I believe. No thanks.

        • Feb 25, 2018 at 7:53 am

          Was the biggest blunder trade in recent Ranger History

          • Feb 25, 2018 at 12:29 pm

            Don’t know if this qualifies as recent, but Park and Ratelle for Espo and Vadnais could be the worst of all time. But, the best is easily Gomez for McD.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:49 am

        Slather got fleeced on that St Louis deal. Two first rounders was insane.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 12:35 pm

          I agree, as I said I wasn’t happy with the two number ones. But people forget it was near the deadline and the choice was to sign Callahan to a ridiculous deal, keep him and lose him for nothing that summer, or get something for him. They chose to get something, the correct choice as paying Callahan what he was asking was crazy. We can discuss the deal all day, I’ve already agreed about the picks, but moving him was the thing to do.

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:08 pm


            Well stated on all counts!!

          • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:01 am

            I would have let Callahan skip and kept draft picks.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 5:45 pm

          …and Montreal got fleeced on Gomez; sports is a crap shoot and the smartest and luckiest GMs come out on top; Butch Goring vs Ratelle/Park for Espo/Vadnais…Middleton/Hodge
          GMs do lots of stupid things and we’ve been blessed with anal fissures like the Cat who was so desperate he gave away the store….ditto Slats

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:20 pm

            good points Moose klein……
            cant decide who was more stupid…..emile, sather or esposito…..

            • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:37 am


              Espo almost traded Leetch, what a joke he was!!!!!!!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:50 pm

        That doesn’t hold. Hey many duds have been drafted in the first round too – Lundquist, Pavelski, Buff, Rinne, etc. all got drafted in the final 7th round. It’s who is doing the draft behind the table not necessarily the high picks

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:11 pm


          Your right to a certain extent, but you have to have the luck of the Irish in order to come up with a diamond in the late rounds. Me I’ll take all the early rounds that I can collect, and take my chances on the bigger pool of quality players available!!!!

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:53 pm

            The one thing I’d add is this isn’t like they traded for a 5th rd pick that could turn out to be anybody… they traded for someone they’ve been scouting, who’s playing in a pro league… against older competition. So maybe they see him closer to a 2nd rd pick in this years draft.

            Ultimately nobody truly knows… but considering all this talk is coming from trading away a player who is a UFA come July… I think everyone needs to just take a step back and realize it’s nothing to get worked up about.

            If collectively after the deadline trades, the draft, and FA signings… this teams direction looks… “off” in someway then maybe we can all be more outspoken.

        • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:05 am

          If you have solid scouting solid coaching and goal tending coaches throughout your organization you will almost always have a solid competitive club unless of course you have Rangers type management.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 4:19 pm

        All the players you mention have (or had) flourished on other teams – Eric Staal is just one example; Hagelin is another. So, it was not the drafting that was inept; there must be something in coaching or general atmosphere of the team. I would also suggest that having the “fans” the Rangers have is another factor to add to the intangible evils surrounding the team.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:51 pm

          This is a point I would like to take further. This fan base now a days is a bunch of sheep. Heralding a bunch of weak trades as good news. And most times is a very fickle group.

          We all felt at the time of the St. Louis trade and the coming playoff result …good trade. 2 years later or so and now we hate it. Not saying all of us just the consensus.

          We are all in love with Hank and now cause someone makes an eye opening point well it isn’t so bad of an idea to get rid of Hank. I think Leather and myself and others who are hated on here have made the same exact point just not so elequently worded until Leather’s post. And look at what a kid goaltender is doing in the time he has been up. He is getting shelled in 2 games and has honestly kept them in the game just as good if not better then Hank would have.

          I make a myriad list of reasons this season is not AV’s fault yet still the overall consensus is to still hate the gum chewer.

          Year after year this front office makes inexplicable trades and signings and yet none on here except for myself and a couple others are calling for their heads. Blame the coach…… it is his fault for not fielding a playoff contender with 2 lines worth of talent and laundry list of injuries and so called elite goaltender.

          People honestly are still having a open debate about whether or not the Stepan trade is a bad one. I am honestly just scratching my head.

          Just get your heads out from under the sand and do some critical thinking on your own and not recite what you read in another article on another site.

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:35 pm

            Odie, I find your constant yammering about other posters and fans being ‘fan boys’ and ‘sheep’ to be obnoxious and childish. Buck up and accept that others have differing opinions and just post your opinions about the team, trades and hockey. The constant barbs thrown at others and the inaccurate and tiring lumping together everyone on the site as being beneath your searing objectivity makes me scroll past your posts most of the time. I’d rather see what you have to say about the trades, not what your opinion is of others who might like the trades.

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:25 pm

            100% correct again ……in this post…..this line, ” This fan base now a days is a bunch of sheep. Heralding a bunch of weak trades as good news. And most times is a very fickle group.” ……is SPOT ON !!!!!!!
            Couldn’t agree more with the ineptitude and stupidity of the GM and coach! 20 years of sathers incompetance and fans here still believe in him!!!!! Bizarre……..

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 12:26 pm

        Interesting you mention Staal in terms of inept decision making. Notice what he has done since he got away from the head gum chewer behind the bench. Story in the Post today about how Emil Francis knows how AV feels. He should. Both have had elite level talent and were never able to win a cup with it.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 9:36 am

    The trades so far involve prospects and draft picks. Until we see how the prospects and draft picks players turn out, there is no way we can accurately judge the outcome of these moves. All we seen so far, is the Ranger team on the ice has taken a huge step backwards in their performance.

    IMHO I believe the Ranger organization currently have a very competent scouting staff. I believe the prospects and draft picks will be solid. However, I am not so confident that these players will get the needed coaching and development to help them succeed in the NHL.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:16 am

      Therein lies the rub. Hard to tell what you don’t have when the coaching is suspect. AV has won a lot of games, no dispute, but he has also worn out players mentally as well as physically. Hopefully a new broom will sweep clean. GMJG good job so far with exception of EStall trade which I lay at Slats feet. Slats please say goodbye so that JG can shine or fail without you as an excuse. Do it for yourself if for no one else.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 12:27 pm

        Does anybody really believe that Sather is not pulling Gorton’s strings on every move he makes.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:39 am


      Agree with your post, and addressing your concern about the coaching, AV will be history, sleep well tonight, he will be gone!!!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:33 pm

        From your mouth to the Hockey God’s ears!

    • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:31 am

      As stated above you have good scouting good coaching and goalie coaching throughout your organization then you will have a competitive club in most seasons. The Trade the Future for now is a BUST

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:16 am

    I won’t be all negative on the Rangers scouting and development teams. I believe Sather learned a ton with Renney and the likes. I think this team has consistently turned out players who were most likely AHL lifers and made something out of them. Whether they became trade assets or consistent 4th liners like Fast. Much better in this department since the days of Sather’s high priced free agent teams that never made the playoffs.

    Not as sold on the close to playing prospects as you are Dave. Rykov is at best a year away from being here. So that is like getting a 2019 first round pick cause you won’t know how he adapts to the smaller ice and north american culture til then. Probably a reason he went 5th round in the draft. And that is if he even decides to come and play here. Can’t really see the vision, well I can, I just don’t agree with it. O’Gara seems ok, but as stated…. it is early. I am happy with the Boston return and not so happy with the Grabner trade. Feel there was a much better return out there. Just as people have written, our scouts had a hard on for him since we are watching Shestyorkin regularly. Truely hope they are right and this is a steal. And at the very worst none of this pans out but Grabner resigns with us in the off season.

    And you are right on the money with Nash and Mack. Those 2 moves will determine Gorton. No doubt he has to steal the show. Right now he is 1 for 2 on this trade deadline. But I think with the Pitt move for Brass that certainly opens the door for much better returns on these 2. I was honestly scared about this trade market before these deals went down. The way Sakic fleeced Nashville and Ottawa for a cancer, it wouldn’t have been far fetched to see trepidation in GM’s this trade deadline. I didn’t see a all in mentality taking over certain GM’s. I still think Yzerman won’t sell the future for a shot. I think he believes at this moment he has what it takes to win this year. So the best return wont come from Tampa. I think the best return will come from out of the Western Conference …either the Sharks, Ducks, or Predators.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:43 am


      The kid is under contract until 2019, so he is still developing in Russia, and will be ready for NHL when his contract expires………..I like the size on him, along with Sean Day, Skjei, we could have some beef back there, as opposed to the wimps of the past who wouldn’t hit you with a 10 foot pole!!!!!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:03 am

        I agree Walt. He can be a real stud in the making.

        I am just concerned.

        There are a ton of circumstances that have to pan out for this trade to work out.

        IMHO there had to be something better then the rights to a 5th round defensive prospect and a middle tier 2nd round pick. With appropriate marketing and sales I feel Grabner could have fetched a better return.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:31 pm

          I’ll say probably not because in making a deal with a heated rival Gorton proves he was going after the best deal on the table, otherwise that deal never happens. Again, they’ve scouted this kid for years, extensively …. they must feel there’s really something there.

          PS: there are always a ton of circumstances that have to to pan out for any trade to work. In the end deals are never judged on paper, only at the beginning.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:40 am

    Hopefully in the next trade we get a dynamic young FORWARD.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 10:47 am

    The Pitt trade for Brassard seems to be devaluing our return for Grabner… first off I’m not sure if the details of this trade are fully revealed yet. What we DO know is that Pitt was cap strapped and had to go through a few gyrations to make it work. Now, with these gyrations did they HAVE to overpay some? I say yes.

    Pitt was initially interested in Grabs because he was cheap and might have fit under their cap. But they maneuvered with agreeable teams and took the center they desired. I, for one, am not upset with our Grabner trade. Kudos to the &$#$@ Penguins they pulled it off.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:04 am

      Gives me hope that Lundqvist can get traded

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:32 am

        Oh, those pesky NMC’s!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:39 am

        Has Lundqvist turned in his list of the teams he is willing to talk to about a trade? Do you ever consider the vast number of cap problems involved, management and his agent relationships, GM’s of any teams involved, etc.
        I wish you would think things through.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:54 am

          If Henk doesn’t want to part of the rebuild he can wave his NMC. It’s not farfetch. There are team out there in need of goalies with playoff experience.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 12:05 pm

        Watching gorgiev, raanta, talbot and all the rookie [flyers] goalies play for or against us why would any gm trade for lunquist and his contract when …..dare I admit it… this point in his long and illustrious career
        he is no better than an average goalie!
        Considering the huge contract , which should never be given to a goalie, IMHO, I would trade hank for very little just to unload it…….
        IF we really are serious about rebuilding and winning…..

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:33 pm

          The huge contract becomes much less of an issue in a rebuild. If a large number of your players are on ELCs then the cap is a non-factor.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:11 pm

          Those are fighting words Rich S. 🙂 …. how dare you.No team should build around a high Price-d goalie.Not these days.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:38 pm

        Spot on Leather , as great as Hank has been, he is only going to regress at this point of his career . When you factor in his monster contract, well this is a business, nothing personal .

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:49 pm

          Bobby B….have a little faith in Hank. He has played behind a s–t defensive scheme for years with players that couldn’t get the job done. New coach, some position and scheme changes, 30 shots and less per night and yumpin yimminy! look what we got a HOF Goalie! He might not win a Cup but he deserves those bucks for the crap he has faced.
          Cant go back in time, but I would’ve gotten rid of Slats and AV for playing 3 D in the SCF, with broken bones in of all places…..Their f’n legs! this is what happens when you can’t see the farm….no depth..oh! Shame on the so called management. For my old eyes I never saw McD play the same.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 5:59 am

        Henrik was asked to submit teams for a possible trade but he does not want to go.

        Nothing is impossible but highly unlikely.

        Nash deal appears done, Zuc and Miller could be next.

        McD only going for a certain return but could still be here Monday night.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:17 am

        Boy I hope so leatherneck

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:33 am

      I don’t know. Playoff teams are all under gyrations. Exception is probably Vegas. It is up to the management team to force sell a player onto another team with the idea he will make them a bonafide cup team. Pitt needed a center more then a winger. So pitt was not a ideal trade partner. Pitt was in despair over not having a quality 3C or 4C. And with nothing left in the minors to bring up they had to pull something off.

      And agree on the kudos to pitt. They just helped us out with nash and maybe Mack.

      A couple of weeks ago everyone on here was talking about how this is a deep draft year. Get first round picks and the likes and the rangers will win out was a common thread on here. Now we traded Grabs for a 2nd and a prospect and Holden for a 3rd and a prospect.There is no continuity on here. It is like we are all accepting the fact that this franchise which hasn’t raised a cup in 25 years and only 2 others before that is not the same franchise that has constantly disappointed us with every move they have made in the last decade.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:35 pm

        Don’t forget, Brassard was NOT under an expiring contract. They now have tremendous depth up the middle for a couple more playoff runs, not just this year.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:04 am

    The Rangers need to acquire some NHL ready forward prospects. The forwards they have in Hartford don’t look to be any better than 4th line forwards. The jury is still out on Anderson & Chytil for now.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:36 pm

      The jury came in and said they both look like Top 6 guys in the making.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Hank may NOT be in goal Sunday .some “insiders”are saying that if he’s not in net he may be on the block too. And if he is the LA Kings ,Toronto or the Ducks are the team and that Dolan may have signed off on it

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:21 am

    The protected 7 as of now for the expansion draft:

    Any NHL forward coming in has to be knocking Fast or Vesey off the list.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:55 am

    Yes, 2 good trades, but now the most important trades to come…

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 12:23 pm

      Is Nash a second line player on a Stanley Cup team? Yeah, probably. Does Nash’s playoff history impact his value? Again, probably. Is Nash an expensive rental? Yes. Will his limited NTC hurt his value? Not sure. So, are we setting ourselves up for another letdown? I know we value him immensely, but is that his true value as perceived by a limited number of other teams? Please talk me off this ledge!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:11 pm

        Nash is a 3rd liner on a Cup team. Defensively responsible and can score against 2nd rate talent, it creates massive headaches for opposing coaches.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 8:34 pm

          Love all the thumbs down with zero counter arguments: thanks for the discourse, folks; really raises the bar around here.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:38 pm

        I’m thinking Nash will garner a 1st and a prospect, that’s it. The issue will be how good the prospect is.

        Re: whether he’s a Top 6 on a contender? Sure, he can be … IF he has the right compliment of players to play with.

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:13 pm

        We are willing to eat some salary.So it may not be expensive.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 6:01 am

        Nash appears headed to Boston. For what, I do not know.

        But also hearing that him coming back to the Rangers is a done deal as well.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:24 am

        I want a first for Nash, after that, I don’t care.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    For all those who have touted the Penguins’ acquisition of Ryan Reaves as proof of the virtue of punching people in the face as a deterrent to on-ice mayhem against star players: the Penguins just traded him yesterday. Another cliché proven meaningless.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:41 pm

      Did they trade him to the Rangers???

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:55 pm


      • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:58 pm

        Ha Ha Ha….
        I still want evander kane and manson and matt martin and…..the undertaker!!!!
        Ice capades hockey is getting less fun to watch!!!!!!

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:16 pm

          Brother Rich S, you have my vote as GM & Coach, I will be one of your assistant coaches. We will bring back Nicky Fotiu as our other assistant coach. When we open training camp we have our players engage in a bench clearing brawl, who ever remains standing gets to play!!!

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:32 pm

            Bobby B ,
            Your comments are music to my ears…….A non physical team will never win a cup, as the rangers prove over and over again!!!!!!
            There is some fight here [ vesey, buch, miller, kreider, deangelo., sjkei…..but they need a couple of heavyweights to have their back and lead the way!!!!!!
            Part of training camp would be Nicky teaching them how to fight!!!!!!!! Like the good book says, its better to give than to receive!!!!!!

            • Feb 25, 2018 at 7:25 am

              Rich S, heavy rumors coming in from every source , Rick Nash going to Bruins with a package of picks, an NHL ready player and ADAM MCQUAID. They are trying to figure out salary cap issues. If Rangers get McQuaid,the identity of the Rangers being a soft team changes immediately!! He is a big heavy D man, throws body checks with mean intentions,clears the crease, can play the game, and will fight anyone, protect his teammates. Gorton make this deal, we need to change the teams identity ASAP.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:59 pm

      GM’s Rutherford and Mcphee along with yzerman and lamoriello are
      widely considered the best in the business!
      Apparently Reaves has a lot more value than you think since 2 of the top 4 GM’s traded for him!!!!!!!
      You think sather and gorton know better than these two??????

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 4:22 pm

        how many Cups did George McPhee win in Washington, with Ovechkin, Backman, Carlson, etc? Pretty sure it’s the same amount of titles that Gorton has.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:29 pm

          George McPhee, pound for pound may have been the toughest Ranger to ever lace up the skates. Rest assured his teams never got pushed around!!!

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:34 pm

          Your idol Lundqvist had never won the Stanley Cup. Yet apparently he’s the best goalie that ever played the game.

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:55 pm

            What team do you root for again Bloomer? Because I’m pretty sure it’s not the Rangers. What kind of Ranger fan taunts other Ranger fans about the Rangers not winning Cups? Either a schmuck or a troll I think.

            • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:38 pm

              So Mancunian anyone who disagrees with your distorted view of the game of hockey is a troll.

              Are you late for piano lessons?

          • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:15 pm

            I hope your are here all night Bloomer!

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:35 pm

          McPhee has built a team that every year is competing to win …..funny but you failed to mention the ”Collection”’ of cups the other GM’s have………
          McPhee , in 1 year has built a better team than sather has in 20!!!!!!!

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 4:24 pm

        Yeah, and one of these “top 4 GMs” decided having Reaves on his team for the playoffs was useless. So there’s that as well.

        • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:37 pm

          Apparently he was moved for ”Cap” reasons…….and because the pens needed to make room for a center……but I guess rutherford doesn’t know what he is doing……..

      • Feb 24, 2018 at 11:31 pm

        Wasn’t McPhee the guy who traded Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat? Great trade.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:13 pm

    Trading Lundquist is a must!

    Look at the cap figures for Stanley Cup winning goalies. Nowhere near Hanks inflated salary for goalies.

    Clearly taking $5mm off the goalie spend creates much needed space on the third line and second pair.

    Hopefully the Rangers can convince DALLAS, Toronto, or Ducks to make Trade.

    Does anybody know if you can keep salary for only some years of a traded player’s contract?

    For example, Rangers keep 75% of Lundquist salary and cap hit for 2018/19, but for no other years. Logic is that in a rebuild year there is plenty of cap space considering all of ELC players on the team.

    Hope to hear a reply.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:54 pm

      Per CBA 50.5, Rangers can retain up to 50% of a players salary in a trade, can only do three contracts like that and that total number has to be less than 15% of the cap. ($11mm or so this season)

      I hope that helps.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 4:34 pm

      As for retaining salary one year and not the others, for cap purposes no. In actual cash purposes, I don’t see why not.

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:17 pm

      Oh no you didn’t!Not on this board,off with your head! 🙂 …. love it!

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 2:45 pm

    I’m in the camp that JG got fair value for Grabs and Holden.

    If Grabs was not a UFA then I can see a first round pick. But because he can walk on July 1st, a second and a prospect that the Devils held in pretty high regard is fair.
    We didn’t get hosed, nor did we get a steal. This seems to me to be a fair trade for both clubs.

    Holden, I laugh, some of the same posters who bad mouthed him on the boards, and for the most part rightly so, think we should have gotten more? Boston has a very good D-corps. Holden is insurance and thus, again a fair trade. The draft pick is far more important to me then is O’Gara. A big kid who plays a soft D………….

    We can not expect a D-corps that has three smallish player to be effective. D’Angelo has some bite. Gilmore can motor., wow is he fast. Still there is a need for size and nastiness, Sean Day, needs to win a spot in camp next fall.

    Good job JG………………… Keep it Up!!

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 3:00 pm


    Reaves served his purpose as a Penguin. He became very expendable when the Pens acquired Jamie Oleksiak, a 6’7″ mean nasty defenseman. Who can and does protect his teammates………..
    Rutherford is one of the sharpest GM in hockey. And McPhee looks like he knows what he’s doing as well as the last time I checked, he has a first year expansion team leading the whole NHL in points. And he traded for Reaves…………

    But I understand your point, and it’s a great debate.

  • Feb 24, 2018 at 6:41 pm

    Eddie/Eddie/Eddie, where are you??, please chime in!!!

    • Feb 24, 2018 at 7:36 pm

      He must be away on business. Haven’t seen 3E for a couple of days here.

  • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:14 am

    I heard but I can not verify that the organization wined and dinned Hank and asked him to lift his no trade clause and he said NO. In the grand scheme of things and watching the direction this organization is heading in trading Hank now is a NO BRAINER. He will bring back a treasure back from the club who wants the cup worst. If he does not agree to lift trade clause sit him and tell him that is where he will spend his career as a back up!

    • Feb 25, 2018 at 8:20 am

      I heard he was asked to name teams for possible trade, yes. And that he did indeed say no.

  • Feb 25, 2018 at 9:10 am

    Nash for a first and Ryan Lindgren from what I hear.

    • Feb 25, 2018 at 9:41 am

      Not a bad trade, provided Lindgrin has no after-effects from that injury.

      • Feb 25, 2018 at 2:56 pm

        I think Gorton did ok here

  • Feb 25, 2018 at 1:42 pm

    Well now that we know what we got for nash I think it might be time to make a bold move, from everything I have read about Dahlin he is nhl ready if we get in the 3 team lottery and get really lucky and get the 1st pick our selves that would really set us up, I’m so tired of poor defense in front of Hank if we don’t get that pick then even though I hate trading picks we have a bunch of good ones now so going along the rebuild mode I wonder if arizona would go for our 2 1st rd 1 of the 2nd rd and one of the kid defensemen we have right now, any way you look at it once we buy out Mark we will all of a sudden be A LOT YOUNGER BIGGER AND FASTER if we don’t trade Ryan how that for a top 4 Ryan, Kevin, Brady and Dahlin and then let all the other kids fight it out for the last 2 spots and there are a bunch of them I would love to see this happen and it would help the cap too.

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