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Attempting to quantify goalie puck handling

This was literally the only picture I could find of Henrik handling a puck. I think this was ’06.

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Throughout Henrik Lundqvist’s stellar career to date, one of the common detractions from his game has always been his inability to play the puck effectively.  The past couple years have highlighted this weakness in his game, as Marty Biron, and now, Cam Talbot have been effective and capable puck handlers. This skill has been somewhat anecdotal (though, I have always included it in my style analyses) throughout the evolution of goalie development.

It’s nearly impossible to quantify in any meaningful way, and was always viewed as a bonus when a goaltender was blessed with strong stick skills.  After a quick Google search for the purposes of researching this post, this was all but confirmed.  Many instructors and YouTube aficionados have drills and technique suggestions and the like, but no one out there seems to have a handle on how to quantify it.

Let’s start with the basics.  The main reason why goaltenders have to handle the puck is for the purposes of fielding a dump in.  This can usually take two forms, a line-change dump in, where there is typically a very light forecheck, and the goalie’s main function is to corral the puck into a playable area for his defender to reset the breakout.  The second is when the puck is dumped for the purpose of establishing a forecheck and setting the puck up to cycle in the offensive zone.

Generally, the player dumping the puck will be cognizant of the location of his nearest forechecker, which leads to the velocity in which the puck is dumped into the zone.  The goaltender’s role here is to cut off the dump in from the weak side forechecker, and give his defense some time and space to make a first pass the other way. The more skilled puck handling goaltenders can sometimes use these instances as an opportunity to create offense. When there is a line-change dump in, the tender might be able to hit a teammate from long range and catch the dumping team in a bad change. In the case of the forecheck starting dump-in, the goaltender could catch the dumping team in transition and move the puck up ice for an odd-man rush.

There are many ancillary situations in which goaltender puck handling may become relevant, but it’s all so situational, it’s incredibly difficult to create a metric for it, or even gauge it’s significance on a game-by-game basis. Think of the stickhandling skills of NHL goalies as a bell curve.  Most possess a baseline skillset that is competent enough for the NHL level (Talbot), but is never really an asset unless the player is operating at an elite level (see Smith, Mike and Brodeur, Martin).  The same goes for the worst puck handlers.

Unfortunately for Ranger fans, Hank is well below-average in this category.  Fortunately, almost all of Hank’s other skills more than make up for a relative deficiency in his stickhandling. I suppose the best analogy I can come up with is a pitcher’s pick-off move in baseball.  If you’re Andy Pettitte, it’s a phenomenal skill to have.  If your brutal at it, it might result in some irritating extra stolen bases.   It absolutely can contribute to a win or loss in a meaningful way, but as a general rule, the other skills (e.g., how good of a puck stopper you are) will and should overshadow its overall importance.

Maybe at some point, a brilliant MIT mathematician will come up with a metric to quantify the importance of goalie stickhandling.  Since we are yet to come up with an equivalent stat to marginalize GAA and Sv%, I’d say that day is a little ways off.  While a useful skill, I don’t think it really factors in if the goaltender is a skilled enough puck stopper.  Coaches would rather a guy who can stop the puck, but not play the puck as opposed to the other way around every day of the week.

15 Responses to “Attempting to quantify goalie puck handling”

  1. Craig says:

    It’s been said, having a goalie that can really handle the puck is like having a third defenseman.  Marty Broudour’s brilliant career case in point.  It also sparks fast breakouts which help score goals. It’s comforting to see Hank standing on his head again playing like we are used to seeing.  Without that great goaltending consistently, we are dead in the water.  

  2. Dave says:

    I don’t know if there’s a way to quantify handling the puck. It’s very situational. There is a definite need for better goalie metrics, but nothing is really available.

    • Seahorse says:

      Ill get on that. I’m an unemployed rocket scientist

      • Dave says:

        While you’re at it, can you work on finding a correlation between puck possession and forechecking systems?

        • Rangers Fan in Boston says:

          That analysis hasn’t been done yet?  That’s surprising.

          • Dave says:

            No one really has a comprehensive list of all systems used by teams…except us. It’s a summer project for me.

        • Seahorse says:

          just a quick comment that i don’t think there’s the necessary stats that need to be kept to make a good estimation of puck handling.  One that i’ve never seen is simply touches.  There are no stats kept as to how many times the goalie leaves the net.  Then from there i could see you factoring in a score keepers judgement to see if the puck was just stopped, if it was passed with intent or if cleared.  then a turnover statistic would be kept  to determine how efficient a goalie is at retaining possession for his team.  so i dont think its lack of analysis but lack of available stats, or i’m a bad googler. 
          As for the forechecking stats, i think thats entirely doable cause if you have the forechecking systems from say last year and which situations they are used, which you do a nice job on pregame posts, then there are team stats that are kept not only for a whole game but for independent situations like up one, down one, etc. and that would be a job of matching system, situation and stat together, not necessarily difficult but time consuming

  3. Walt says:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if we had Hank,  with Ron Hextall’s stick handeling ability????

  4. ranger17 says:

    He has to be the worst  Ranger  goaltender ever at hangling the puck . He handles it even when there is no weed to do so . Everytime he shoots it around the boards it ends up staying in D/Z

    • Spozo says:

      It’s awful wen a goalie runs out of weed.

      My guess is this is the reason for Bryzgalov’s fall from grace.

  5. tommy t says:

    IMHO i think Henrik has handled the puck much better since he  joined the league. I wonder if Marty Biron gave him some pointers throughout the years he was with the organization. 

  6. paulronty says:

    The game of hockey would be improved immensely if they took out that trapezoid behind the net and goalies were not allowed to venture behind the goal line.

  7. Ray says:

    I suspect that you could get a good feel for this observationally, counting how often a goalie pass leads to clearing the zone.  My guess is that Lundqvist probably faces about 1% more shots than an average puck handler does because of his deficiency.  That is far less significant than the damage a goalie can do to himself with poor rebound control (and the extra shots there are high quality to boot).
    Incidentally, the importance of 1% more shots equals the difference between a save percentage of .901 and one of .900.