Sorry, no goal breakdown

Last night was one of those rare nights where none of the five of us were available to write the goal breakdown. Suit, Kevin and I were stuck at our respective work places, Chris is in Germany, and Justin was unavailable. Use this to discuss the game if you want. Sorry about that.

13 Responses to “Sorry, no goal breakdown”

  1. PAL says:

    I don’t mind Marty Biron starting every once in a while – he’s no Lundquist, but that is ok – but couldn’t Hank come in for shootouts? Is that allowed?

    • Dave says:

      It’s allowed, but would you want a cold goaltender to take over just for the shootout?

      • pal says:

        in this case yes. From what I remember from last year, Marty is just bad at shootouts.

        • VinceR says:

          A cold goaltender going into a shootout is a great recipe for injury. You are taking someone that was sitting on the bench with no warmup at all, and asking for splits and acrobatics.

          Not really worth it for 1 point.

          • pal says:

            Playing devil’s advocate: Vince I’m not sure what you are describing is any different than when goalies are switched half-way through a period in which the first goalie has given up 3 or 4 goals in rapid succession. In that case, a cold goalie is brought in, with a much greater chance of injury, because he must play 1 and a half full periods, just to get 0 points.
            Three saves for one point? Absolutely! One point this morning is the difference between 6th and 8th place for the Rangers. Do this 2 or 3 times in a season, and it is the difference between playing Boston and Toronto in the first round.

            • VinceR says:

              I see that, and hopefully it doesn’t come down to doing it 3 or more times…if we are going into shootouts that many times with Marty in goal, we are in bad shape as he will probably not play too many more than 7 or 8 games the rest of the way.

              I guess my thinking is that in a game situation there is still somewhat regular play…sure your D may string you out with some breakaways or 2nd and 3rd chances, but you won’t be making the same moves as you would in one on one situations.

              I could be totally wrong on that, I never played goalie so I really can’t say for sure, it just seems like you see splits, dives, upper body torque, and general acrobatics on the shoot outs. I’m totally willing to be called out on that thinking though ;)

          • Dave says:

            Yea, that’s my thinking. Biron isn’t the best in shootouts, but he’s still one of the best backups in the league.

  2. Greg B says:

    The coaches don’t have to protect Marty the way they would for Hank. We dominate the first, then come out flat in the second and give up 3 goals. The reaction is not to pull Marty b/c no reason to put Hank in that situation. Too bad Marty is not good at shootouts.

    Is there a consensus on whether or not Miller will be sent down? Personally I don’t think he did anything bad in the past few games. He’s a hard worker on the boards, and is smart with the puck. Sometimes he takes long shifts. I can see them scratching him next game for Kreider and then making the decision after the game.

    • VinceR says:

      He’s been alright, but I’m not sure it’s enough. I think the question is more, will he benefit from the fewer minutes here and develop, or is he better off with first line minutes in Hartford and working out the last kinks? And is that contribution worth more than the 1 year on the contract?

      He hasn’t done anything to demote himself, but I’m not sure he’s done enough to justify the gamble of keeping him up. Tough call.

    • Dave says:

      More on Miller at 1:30 this afternoon.

  3. DPeters says:

    Hope protecting leads is not going to become a problem. For a supposed defense first team, they seem to lose their strength too often. Coverage in front of the net seems to be inconsistent. Three men are being caught behind the goal line too many times.
    NYR did not look hungry last nite after the first 10 minutes of the game. NYI wanted it more it appeared.

    • Dave says:

      Games always have momentum shifts, and I think the bigger issue is dealing with these shifts and weathering the storm. It’s just coincidence that the last two momentum shifts have been with the Rangers ahead.

  4. ranger17 says:

    Never should have gotten to the shoot out to begin with . just play a 60 min game . hate these trap games that the Rangers think they only need to show up for the 2 points PP goal when up by 2 would have sealed the game , but we had one of the worst 2 min in the game at that point . Rangers have never ever had that killer instink.