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Around the Farm: The Mikhail Pashnin debut

I received an email the other day, wondering why Mikhail Pashnin was never included in the ATF posts. To answer that, I don’t really believe that Pashnin will ever come to the US without a guaranteed NHL roster spot. Since the Rangers won’t do that, there’s a slim chance he will come over.

That said, Pashnin is still a solid defender and a good prospect for the Rangers. He’s not going to be the guy that lights the lamp, but he will be a shutdown, physical defenseman. There’s a reason why he was the first overall pick in the KHL draft a few years ago.

Check after the jump for an update on Pashnin and the other three prospects in action from last night.

  • KHL
    • Mikhail Pashnin (Lokomotiv Yaroslavl, W 2-1): 0 G, 0 A, 0 PIM, Even
  • WHL
  • QMJHL
    • Sam Noreau (Baie-Comeau, W 7-3): 0 G, 1 A, 0 PIM, +1

15 Responses to “Around the Farm: The Mikhail Pashnin debut”

  1. Tim B says:

    Unless they plan on trading a top 4 defensemen in a few years. But other than that theory, no doubt he’ll come over. Plus McIlrath will be on the Rangers soon. So with that said, there isn’t really room. I dont know much about his guy but coul he be converted to a bottom 6 forward? Good defensively and is physical. Most 4th liners are enforcers/checkers.

  2. steve says:

    what about Hrivik? Do you have an update on him? Is he skating again with the whale? working out? This guy can really play, and has size…he deserves a shot? Update, Comments, Thoughts?

  3. rickyrants13 says:

    Whith that being said about him not coming here unless he is promised a slot. Then what the heck is the brass doing hanging on to him? Either do one of two things. With the state of our bottom six. Why not bring him in during camp give him a try. And if it works keep him And if it doesnt trade him. Or just trade his rights now.

  4. Jess Rubenstein says:

    First off Pashnin has used the Rangers to improve his own contract status with the KHL. Twice Pashnin said he wanted to come over to play for the Rangers only to sign a new deal and stayed home.

    Second before people get their hopes up on Pashnin, he is barely 6′ tall and if he came over to the NHL then he would be eaten alive by the real physical players.

    The Rangers also list prospects who no longer fit in their plans (or aren’t coming over) mainly to inflate their list of prospects “in the system.”

    Every NHL team does it because 30-40 names looks much better than 15-20.

    And to the last poster, Pashnin has no intention of coming over unless he has a 1 way NHL deal which is something no NHL is going to do with a smallish defender. He has zero trade value these days now that there is a “respect each other’s contracts” agreement in place between the NHL and KHL.

    • Dave says:

      All this is why I don’t necessarily consider Pashnin to be a real prospect for the Rangers.

  5. rickyrants13 says:

    First off thats a lousy way of looking at it Even a 7th round pick is better then nothing. Or even try trading his rights for a prospect. There is allways a GM out there that thinks he can talk a player into something better then the next guy.

    • Jess Rubenstein says:

      Lousy way to look at it? It’s reality as the only way you could get anything for Pashin’s rights would be if he was willing to sign a contract.

      He has not shown any interest unless he gets a NHL one way contract and under the new CBA you can’t stash him in the AHL.

      So why team in their right mind offers the Rangers anything for a player who will only accept a 1 way contract?

  6. rickyrants13 says:

    I will tell you what team will. A team with a need will. A tam that isnt built like the Raners. A team that has plenty of money under the cap will. Noteveryon is in the same boat as the Rangers. And can afford to take a chance on him. And you failed to see that I wasnt asking for a kings ransom for him was I????

  7. Jess Rubenstein says:

    Ricky

    Sorry Ricky but you are just not understanding the way the hockey world works. You say a team that isn’t built like the Rangers, that has money to spend would but you are forgetting a couple of things.

    i- Pashin is under contract to a KHL team and under the new NHL/CHL agreement. They can’t even talk to him until his contract expires.

    2- You are suggesting that a NHL team will give up something for the rights to Pashin even though he has never shown any honest or legit interest to leave Russia.

    The GM who does that will not be the GM of that team for very long.

  8. rickyrants13 says:

    You seem to forget the far more wacked out trades that have been made in the NHL. They also said that the Rangers would not be able to trade Gomez because of a million things. And I heard all about it from everyone. And what do you know. Well if I have to tell you how that worked out.

    Cant be done because he had a NO TRADE clause.

    cant be done because he makes 46325256056376 billion dollars and no one will take that contract.

    cant be done because we wont get anything worth a hoot back for him. Mc D.

    Listen you have never heard me say that anything comes easy And you have never once seen me in here making crazy trades. But if they wanted to make this trade Im sure Sather could do it He has done way harder trades then this.

    • rickyrants13 says:

      I bet the guy who put thumbs down to this last post was just feeling beat. No one can argue what I said.

      • VinceR says:

        Just figured I’d post to one of your comments one last time (I’ll never say never though).

        Everyone knows it’s useless to reply. You are arguing that there is a possibility to trade the rights to a guy that no NHL team has the right to offer a contract currently. Then arguing crazier things have happened while providing examples that aren’t actually crazier, using a player who played in the NHL as an example. You say a 7th round pick is still something…which is exactly why someone wouldn’t use it until they knew they could at least make the guy an offer! Until that day occurs, they are literally giving something up for nothing. That is what Jess means by zero trade value.

        He is literally worth nothing until his contract is up. It’s like saying, hey 7th rounder for a bag of pucks…but you should know, the bag doesn’t actually contain any pucks…also there is no bag.

        If you can’t see your logic failure here, there is no point replying…it’s talking to a wall.

        I’ve stopped replying to your posts a couple of weeks ago because typically all you want to do is yell at clouds. It’s more fun to watch the thumbs down pile up while no answers. I’m frankly surprised Jess is entertaining this as it contains zero post value.

        In the end, your statement is correct: no one can argue with what you said, but not because it’s a great argument, but because it’s useless to argue with the irrational. The mental gymnastics they use inside their head to convince themselves otherwise will always win the gold medal…in every event. Even rings.

        It’s like Snot from National Lampoon’s Christmas Vacation got hold of a keyboard and went to town on it…”It’s best to just let him finish”.

        Sincerely,
        Mr. Thumbs Down From The Last Post

        • rickyrants13 says:

          You know what you can say what you want and I bet it was yuou who said the same thing back when I was calling for a trade of Gomez. People like you amaze Me. You all walk around like only what you say flies. And its a joke.

          I have been saying that things that are not written in stone can and have happened in the past. I never put a date on this trade And I sure as hell wasnt asking for a kings ransom in this deal was I.

          I recieved the same bullshit from people like you back when I said to trade Gomer and look what happened. You all act like just because there is some kind of hurdle that it cant be overcome. I never said it would be easy or that it had to be done this week. Hell it could have been done last year or the year before that. The Rangers own his NHL rights FACT. And they could trade those rights to a team that might think could change his mind FACT. I never said the team that traded for him could have him play next week did I?

          Maybe for once you should try looking outside the box…

  9. rickyrants13 says:

    WOW more thumbs down from the same guys I bet said the same BS to Me when I said we could trade Gomez. Must be really really sad to be so wrong.