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Thoughts and Musings; Jagr Anyone?

Thoughts and Musings time once again. As we get deeper into the Rangers’ off season more and more rumours and players names will get circulated. If they do, we’ll discuss them. For now, put up with me.

Let’s not pussy foot around: Jaromir Jagr. If Selanne can do it, I sure as hell believe Jagr can. He can make plays and if he has kept himself in good condition then he can still be a 50 point player for an NHL club. The question for me is dollars. If he truly just wants to return to the big league (don’t forget he was the first NHL player to earn $100m) then he’ll play for a sensible amount. He makes sense for the Rangers. He can help Gaborik and do not forget the chemistry he and Dubinsky had. Don’t think he can help Dubi go to a higher level now he’s maturing? Think again. Jagr makes sense short term.

I’m revising for end of year exams, the first of which is a week today. Study is not going well. Twitter, the Rangers and my dog are significant distractions!

Ryan Callahan is a 50 point player whether the Rangers bring in a Jagr type vet or not. He’s becoming one of the top 10-20 all-round players in the league all things considered. What are those things?  Physicality, leadership, effort, two way ability, skill, hustle, defensive conscience, hitting and attitude.

Chris Drury; I will personally donate a small amount from my personal ‘fortune’ to charity should you choose to retire. That is all.

So how was the World Championship for our Rangers? Mixed. Stepan has really kicked on and it will have helped him. McDonagh will benefit from the experience as will Kreider but it was another ‘mixed’ occasion for Gaborik. He needs to take a big deep breath this off season before heading back to NYC.

I’ve given some thought to someone’s recent idea of moving Brian Boyle. If a team is willing to give up something good to get him, I’d consider it. I like him a lot, love his size and dedication but I’d rather Richards-Stepan-Anisimov down the middle and get something for Boyle rather than waste him on the 4th line. If you can get a good pick or prospect for him, do it?

I need a holiday, preferably soon. Why can’t the Rangers play in July/August?!

I am repeatedly amazed at the ability of Sean Avery to be a newsworthy sports athlete in spite of his sport. He hasn’t been newsworthy on the ice for a good while yet here he is being a huge topic of conversation once again this past week. I’m more intrigued to follow his post NHL career than his current one and I’m a big Avery fan.

I think Mike Del Zotto has a bounce back year next season (lord does he AND the Rangers need it). He would instantly solve a big headache for the Blueshirts if he can find his form once more. This team is defensively better equipped now, to allow him so leeway too.

Who is the most irrelevant Ranger of the season? Jeremy Williams or Chad Johnson?

Speaking of Chad; been nice knowing you kiddo. You were still worth the low pick that we gave the Penguins. 6 games played, 2.59 GAA, .911 save percentage… not bad pick up, was worth the ‘risk’. Yes, I think he is not re-signed.

So what position do the Rangers draft this June? Do you think they draft up or down or stay pat?! I’d like to see them move down and accumulate assets (picks or prospects) unless there’s another ‘can’t pass up kind of guy’ falling to them.

The curious case of Vinny Prospal. How much will he ask for to return? He wants to come back, and you have to assume he knows he’s not a priority. If you can have Jagr and you already have Fedotenko and Prospal – who do you choose of the three? One or more? Depends on which prospects the Rangers think are ready. I don’t think Prospal or Feds have a contract any time soon, that’s for sure.

Please, Rangers fans, no one suggest this summer the idea of another season of Nik Zherdev. Thank you.

 

28 Responses to “Thoughts and Musings; Jagr Anyone?”

  1. Section 121 says:

    Milan Hejduk just signed for 2.6M after scoring 56 points last year. This is a good barometer for a potential Jagr signing.

    • Chris says:

      Don’t think its quite the same. Jagr has made so much money out of the game that IF he came back to the NHL it’d be out of enjoyment for the game – in the first instance. If it was about money he’d have signed with the Oilers a few yrs back.

      I think he would sign for less than what Hejduk just did, but that’s just my guess.

  2. Brian SCS says:

    I don’t understand the desire to trade Brian Boyle. What are you looking for in a Ranger if it’s not this guy? He identified a major hole in his game (skating) and took it upon himself to improve his game and make himself relevant again. He sticks up for teammates, he blocks shots, he chips in goals, he plays defense, and he wants to be here. Does he score 20 goals again next year? Maybe not, but I think a 30 point repeat performance is realistic. I don’t get why everyone expects players like Dubi, Cally, AA and Stepan to improve yet Boyle has reached his ceiling.

    He’s had one 20 goal season, maybe he brings back a mid halfway decent prospect and a 2nd round pick but that’s it – hardly worth giving up on him for.

    • Chris says:

      Brian, I’m not saying trade him but I understand why people would consider it. Has he reached his ceiling? maybe. My major concern is what he might ask for in $$$ and we keep him because he had 1 good year at an expensive price and he handcuffs the team financially for a few years. He’s worth a couple million tops. If he signs for multiple years he may get too much for my liking.

      • Brian SCS says:

        With Most of the team still young and signed to reasonable contracts for the most part, Drury off the books after next year at the latest, and the salary cap increasing at an avg of $3m per year there will be enough cap space to give Brian Boyle an avg of $2.5m on a multi-year deal.

        • Chris says:

          Not necessarily if you factor in a possible 7-8m for Richards and solid raises for Dubi, Callahan, AA. Not to mention any other free agents the team looks to add (a defenseman maybe?)

          Then there is forward planning to consider. Within the next 2 seasons Stepan, McDonagh, Del Zotto, Prust and maybe Zuccarello will all need new deals. Where would you prefer to spend the money?

          I’m hoping to keep Boyle but am hoping (for the right reasons)that he becomes a luxury down the middle.

  3. Dave says:

    I’d move Boyle in the right move, I don’t think he’s an untouchable by any means. However, Richards-Stepan-Anisimov-Boyle is some great depth down the middle. You win with depth at center. Richards/Boyle are at roughly 50% on face offs, Stepan/Anisimov are well below that though. If we could trade Boyle for someone who wins face offs at a better rate, but not lose what Boyle brings to the lineup, I’d do it.

    • Chris says:

      Dave,Brooks Laich is a better offensive player, good on draws and has some physicality too. He goes to the net as well. Now, its unlikely he becomes a Ranger this summer but if they were to be had for similar $$$ who would you rather – Laich or Boyle? Greed says both, the head says Laich.

      • Dave says:

        If it’s Boyle or Laich, I take Boyle because he’s cheaper. Need the money for Richards.

    • wwpd says:

      So you’d trade Boyle for someone the same as Boyle but better?

      Me too!

      • Dave says:

        There’s a difference between not losing what one brings to the lineup and being better than someone.

  4. Matt J says:

    Noooo do not bring back jagr. I like him a lot but we dont need him taking ice time from our kids like Thomas grachev and hagelin.

  5. Zen says:

    Jagr is just not a good fit here. Loved him when he was here, but this team is going in a different direction and Jagr has never been good at suppressing his ego on the ice.

    In terms of Boyle, if an elite scoring forward becomes available through trade this summer, then either Boyle or AA will go the other way. I would be okay with moving either to get a better player that will push this team further in the playoffs.

    Stop it with the Laich talk. We already have enough mid-tier forwards. Good player, but we need elite talent. We can’t waste big money (which is what it will take) on a player we already have plenty of.

    • The Suit says:

      We need elite talent, but elite talent is not available. Laich would essentially be replacing Wolski and Drury. C’mon man, that’s an upgrade.

      • Zen says:

        Even if the elite talent isn’t available now, it will be eventually… whether through trades at the deadline or free agency next year. The goal to winning the cup and getting out of mediocrity is SAVING the cap space until we can get those goal scorers. We will never do anything with only one player (Gaborik) capable of going over 55-60 pts. SAVE, SAVE, SAVE. It isn’t fun or pretty, but it will be the path to success for this organization.

  6. The Suit says:

    Laich is an upgrade over Boyle and could be that left wing powerforward to compliment a skilled center and right wing sniper. Laich-Stepan-Gabby could be a blue collar version of the old Redwings line of Holstrom-Yzerman-Federov.

    HELLS NO TO JAGR. That ship has sailed.

  7. jerry says:

    sny reports frolov signs with omsk.3 year deal.

  8. Matt J says:

    Laich is a waste. It’s Richards or nothing this offseason

  9. Dave says:

    My problem with Laich isn’t so much the player, but the contract. I get the feeling he’s a guy that’s going to get $4 million or more form a team like Toronto. At that price, I pass.

    • The Suit says:

      If Toronto signs Richards, I highly doubt they’ll sign Laich too. They have a lot of RFAs and goaltending problems to fix. Theres only so much money they can spend.

      • Dave says:

        If Richards goes to Toronto, I’ll just laugh.

        • The Suit says:

          I think he’s going here or there or LA.

          • Dave says:

            I’d like to think his first choice is here, but it will depend on what happens between June 15-30. Buyouts, specifically of Wolski, will free up a ton of space.

            Also, it’s expected to have the cap jump to $62 million.

  10. Section 121 says:

    Laich should get no more than 3.5M per and Boyle and AA should both get less than 2M per.

    Cally 3.5
    Dubi 3.5
    Laich 3.5
    AA 1.85
    Boyle 1.85

    Managable

    • Dave says:

      Laich gets more than Cally/Dubi because those two have little negotiating power because they are RFAs. The UFA Laich attracts more than 1 team in a bidding war, thus the price is higher.

    • Zen says:

      I think you are right on with the RFA numbers… maybe Cally and Boyle get a tiny bit less. Dave is correct in saying that Laich will get more due to being an UFA. It just shows you that we already have our Laichs on this team. We need ELITE talent… even if that means waiting to the deadline or UFAgency next season.

  11. Mikeyyyyy says:

    After watching the replays of his hat trick against USA. Um in a heartbeat. Open arms. Red Carpet waiting. Glad he and Torts would battle it out. First player in NY with an ego that was worthy since Mark Messier. Skills, in better shape now than when he was with NY. A Dubi, Jagr, Zucc line would be lethal on the PP.

    So what he plays his own way….he played defense for Renney and could do the same for Torts.