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Just an Idea

I have read in recent weeks that several centermen are available. Buffalo are likely to shop Tim Connolly and his 1 year @ 4.5m, Derek Roy is not satisfying the same management and has a nice contract at 4m/year over 3 years. Then there are names such as Jason Spezza, Vinny Lecavalier, Rusty Olesz, Patrick Sharp and even more that aren’t secure of their current locations for next year.

It got me thinking about potential additions to the Rangers, not through the draft. Barring an unexpected move into the top 3 the Rangers are not getting an NHL ready player in the draft so can the team get immediate help elsewhere?

Now, back to Tim Connolly the much injured, mercurial centreman. Dependant on the priceĀ I think he would be a very nice choice for the Rangers. A reasonable salary, decent age (28), no distinct commitment (1 year) and the pass first playmaking center that Gaborik and insert left wing here could benefit from. I wouldn’t consider any of the others bar Roy.

Connolly hasn’t had a line mate of Gaborik’s standard consistently. The lines in Buffalo are as consistent as they are in New York yet over the past 3 seasons Connolly has 152 points in 169 games, including 65 (48 assists) this year. His playoff performance this year left alot to be desired but does seem to be a scapegoat for Buffalo’s struggles. A chance for a team to obtain a player below his true value?

Health is the main concern but a change of scenery could see Connolly become the elite center he was once touted to be, could that change be in New York? If the price is right I’d give him a chance.

22 Responses to “Just an Idea”

  1. jack says:

    Pass…what good is a guy who only plays 50 games..please don’t make the Gabby comparison..he is an eliter talent worth the risk…my choice would be Sharp but only if he came cheap.

    • jurgenno88 says:

      i did not make a Gaborik comparison. i merely pointed out Connolly hasnt had a line mate of Gaboriks quality consistently.

      I agree he’s a risk but IF he’s available at a low cost why not try it out? If he gets injured for a signifcant period of time he doesnt cost against the cap anyway. Depending on the price its another low risk high reward player. It was merely an idea.

      If he didnt work out then you simply let him go next summer. I’d rather try Connolly for 1 year than attach ourselves to Plekanec long term. Connolly (when fit) has proved he can produce as the numbers indicate.

  2. Dave says:

    Depending on the cost, why not? I mean, he’s relatively low risk considering the contract commitment. If he doesn’t cost that much in terms of players/picks, there’s no reason to not take a flier on him.

    Worst case scenario, he is injured, and the Rangers are in the same position they are in now.

    • jurgenno88 says:

      exactly. We’ve been crying out for a legitimate option to supply the bullets for a while. He’s a passer but can score too so he’s not 1 dimensional like Gomez. Its a question of health for me and given the fact he’s rumoured to be first out of Buffalo it’d be stupid not to ask about his cost.

  3. Dave says:

    The thing is I doubt Buffalo would dump Connolly for spare parts, like we did with Jokinen.

    • jurgenno88 says:

      agreed but if they’d trade him for solid if unspectacular prospects like Mike Sauer and a lower pick would you do it? i would.

      I dont see how they can ask for alot when a) people want him out, b)he’s one year left c) his recent playoff performance and most importantly d) his injury history. His value can’t be high.

      • Dave says:

        But as you said, he still averages around a point a game, it’s give and take with this. I don’t think Sauer and a lower pick will get it done.

  4. Matt says:

    just another name to add to the list–brad richards. I know he has some injury issues and has a rep but putting him with dubs and gabby would be something to see. it depends on what it would take to get him obviously, but with dallas being as cash strapped as they are, and with only one yr left on his deal, I think I would take a serious look at him.

    • jurgenno88 says:

      i like Brad Richards as a player and in Dallas he seemed to re-find his game, and (perhaps most importantly) he has a good history with Tortorella…. BUT…. unless Redden gets moved (and as Dave has said in the past the likelyhood is small)then there’s no way we can absorb a 7.8m cap hit, even for one year. Im not sure its a sensible idea to take that much on even if we do move Redden. Good player though.
      Having said that, he may get moved as Dallas is in money saving mode over the summer and have to re-sign James Neal and Jamie Benn (amongst others) both of whom are due solid raises.

    • Dave says:

      I’d like to see Richards with the Rangers, but without moving a terrible contract, it won’t happen.

      • matt says:

        I actually proposed this trade the other day over on bsb… let me know what you think.

        rosi- (only has 7 mil left over two yrs despite his massive cap hit) Matt Gilroy, Ryan Borque, add a pick if necessary
        Dallas would save some money over the next two yrs, as Richards makes 7.8 next year compared too 7 total in 2 yrs for Rosi, and get solid value for an expiring contract in the two prospects.

        • Dave says:

          I think they need more than Gilroy and Bourque for Richards. You will have to throw in a better prospect. But the thought process is sound.

  5. Mikeeyyyy says:

    Problem with all the players mentioned is that they are not physical. Don’t play defense well.

    Here are a list of adjectives that I do not want on a player we sign. Mercurial, Enigmatic, Smallish, not Physical.

    Let’s look at who we have for next season, linewise I am adding playesr I think could be resigned.

    Dubinksy – Christiansen – Gaborik
    Avery – Anisimov – Callahan
    Voros – Drury – Weise
    Prust – Boyle – Shelley

    That’s if we can sign people. What needs to happen.

    1. Wade Redden has to be sent down to the minors…period. No questions of money, it was a bad signing in that Wade can’t play in the post clutch and grab era.
    2. We have to make a legitimate move for Vinny Lecavalier. According to Hockeys future TB ranks 23rd with their prospects. We need to give up some of our players down in the minors. I would even go, this years 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks, two minor leaguers, Throw in a 2nd and 3rd liner, and Rosival to pick him up. I am sorry but a top line of Dubi-VC-Gabby is just too perfect on paper to not go for. And with Torts penchant for overplaying his top players, I could see this line scoring A LOT!! We can’t look low risk/high reward anymore. We need to make a move for a big time player.

    • jurgenno88 says:

      Vinny Lecavalier? he with 10 years remaining at over 7m per whose points have decreased each year since 07 and he with the -16 rating last year?
      Connolly and Richards play just as good defence as him if not better.
      Richards is not bad defensively, its just not his strength. And when Anisimov fills into his body, with Dubinsky in the top 6 you have physicality. Add a Callahan and Avery and there’s plenty in the top 6/9.

      Physicality needs to be addresssed as a priority on the blue line not on the top forward line.

      • Mikeeyyyy says:

        That’s not a bad contract. IF he retires before that contract is over…we don’t owe anything on it. And he’s locked at that price.

        Connolly 4.5 million 5 seasons not playing a full season

        ASSETS: Has superior quickness, outstanding moves, great hands and tremendous creativity. Excels in one-on-one situations. Can play keep away on the penalty kill as good as anyone.

        FLAWS: Has a history of injury problems, which temper offensive expectations. Needs to improve his work without the puck. Lacks strength and durability.

        Richards 7.8 million 5 seasons at – rating
        ASSETS: Has incredible imagination with the puck and excellent playmaking ability. Likes to shoot the puck often when playing the point on the power play. Is a leader by example. (Another Chris Drury? No thanks)

        FLAWS: Isn’t big or physical, so he can wear down against bigger opposing centers. His defensive game has regressed over time.

        Vinnie L 7.7 million 20+ goals for last 5 seasons…
        ASSETS: Possesses tremendous reach, excellent vision and creativity. Skates very well for a 6-4 center. Has good hand/eye coordination and a winning attitude.

        FLAWS: Can go into scoring funks from time to time. Will occasionally drop the gloves, which penalizes his team more because he’s needed on the ice.

        Avery played horribly as did Callahan last year. Both are horribly inconsitant in the scoring department. Great energy but thats it.

        Plus Richards was one of the people that don’t like Avery, why bring him here? Dubinksy needs to grow, and he won’t with Richards or Connolly, VL would provide that mentor.

        • Mikeeyyyy says:

          Oh and your wrong about VL…

          67 points two seasons ago and 70 this season….that would be an increase…and in 2009 he had a bad wrist injury. and he’s 6-4 220 … that’s a big boy!!

          • Mikeeyyyy says:

            Oh and Richards just underwent Hip Surgery….wouldn’t touch him with a 10 foot pole.

        • matt says:

          Unless redden or drurys contract is going the other way I don’t touch vc with a ten foot pole. On top of that the price you’re willing to pay is obscene for an over 30 players whos #’s have decreased over the past few seasons and who is signed to a lifetime contract. His contract would kill our cap for yrs to come. If you could have richards for 1 year at virtually the same amount of money but would take less to get, why not do it? If it works out and he and gabby click, great, resign at price we can work with. If not, let him walk and we can use his 7.8 cap hit to resign cally and dubi who are both rfa’s next summer.

    • Dave says:

      I’m just going to respond to #2 on this.

      1) We don’t have a 3rd rounder this year.
      2) Essentially you want to trade Dubinsky, two minor leaguers, a 1st and 2nd (and Rozsival for salary) for Vinny. Unless those minor leaguers are Grachev and Stepan, or of that caliber, that’s way too little.

      You provide a good argument, but I don’t think that is enough to pry Vinny from TB.

  6. jurgenno88 says:

    sorry… and by ‘in decline’, what i meant was since his 108pt season he has gone 92, 67, 70. thats steady, if not drastic decline. Then there’s +/-… -16, -7, -17. The guy is not reliabe defensively. Personally i wouldnt pay 7+m for a guy who has those numbers. We’ve done that before.

  7. jurgenno88 says:

    My final comment on Vinny… In my opinion he’s no longer a top tier center in the league, yet he’s being paid like one. Dont we have enough long cumbersome contracts which arent providing bang for buck?

  8. Dave says:

    Going to have to agree with jurgenno, as sexy as the Lecavalier name is, he just isn’t what he used to be. The Rangers have too many long, high paying contracts. If Vinny was short term, then go for it. But not for the next 10 years at $7.7 million.