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On the Johnny Gaudreau trade rumors, and if he’s a good fit for the NY Rangers

Over the weekend Johnny Gaudreau’s name entered trade rumors, and the NY Rangers were also mentioned as a potential suitor.

Gaudreau had a down year this season, putting up just over half of his 99 points from last year (18-40-58 in 70 games). Regardless, he is a top LW talent who would certainly make the Rangers a better team. The concern, as always with these trade rumors, is fit and cost.

The Fit

Gaudreau, as a LW, would be a luxury for a Rangers team that already has Artemi Panarin and Chris Kreider on the left side. Both are signed to long-term deals, so based solely off this information, Gaudreau isn’t a fit. Of course, there’s more nuance to this conversation.

Gaudreau is certainly capable of playing the off-wing, where the Rangers are rather light at RW. Gaudreau on one wing with Panarin on the other makes the top line for the Rangers the most dangerous in the league with almost any center.

The Cost

Gaudreau’s cost is an interesting topic. He’s an elite talent, but he’s only signed for two more years. After which he’s expected to get a decent pay hike. With only two years of cost certainty before he hits unrestricted free agency at 29 years of age. That ensures he won’t cost as much as say, Jack Eichel.

That said, Gaudreau doesn’t come cheap. Any conversation with Calgary, who is short on defensemen, begins with Adam Fox, whom the Flames originally drafted before he was traded to Carolina. The Rangers aren’t moving Fox, so they go right down the line to the next NHL defenseman on the list. Yes, that means Tony DeAngelo.

DeAngelo is interesting because he has value on paper. However sources tell me that his contract status –unsigned, arbitration rights– does take away some of that value. It makes logical sense (and as an aside, is something I will be focusing more on when discussing these types of things). The Rangers, regardless of DeAngelo’s value, would need to add.

Alex Georgiev is the next logical piece. Calgary needs goalies, although contract status might be a concern for Calgary. But DeAngelo and Georgiev isn’t going to cut it either. Given Gaudreau is a winger, a winger likely needs to go back. Naturally the ask is Kaapo Kakko, which isn’t happening. Next on the list is Vitali Kravtsov.

That’s DeAngelo, Georgiev, and Kravtsov for Gaudreau. This sounds awfully light to me, and probably does to you as well. There’s uncertainty across all three of these guys, and we as Ranger fans likely inflate their value. It’s a safe assumption that the earlier of the 2020 1st rounders would have to be added. Top-pick protected, of course.

Is it worth it?

That’s a steep cost for the Rangers at a position they don’t necessarily need. That kind of cost is best used on a center, not a winger. Outside of Mika Zibanejad, the center position is up in the air. As good as Gaudreau is, the timing doesn’t seem right.

Trade rumors, for some reason, always involve the Rangers when it comes to stars like Johnny Gaudreau. As good as he would look on Broadway, he seems more like a luxury than a piece that rounds out holes in the roster.

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  • Short, thin for his height, headed towards the downslope of the aging curve.

    Not only no, but no effing way.

  • DeAngelo and Georgiev and a two year window….okay. Kravtsov and number 1 included…that is the type of price you pay for Messier and a five year window.

  • Yes, as fans we do tend to overvalue our own but when trying to be objective we tend to over extend. To think that it would take all that to get Johnny hockey is absurd. The second most valued position in hockey is RHD especially one who gets points and can QB the PP. DeAngelo has his faults but looking at most high scoring D-men most of them do. But the scoring from the backend overshadows that. I would say that Giorgiev + DeAngelo would get it done (with Calgary also throwing in a 3rd or 4th probably. The Flames need to shed the salary as much as other teams want to add a quality hockey player. With all that said I would not be in favor of the deal. If I’m going to trade DeAngelo we would need to get back a top 2 Center.

  • I would pay for Eichel steep price, this would make this team immediate contender, even so left D is not yet set. But for the left wing….. I don’t see why we should of pay that mach

  • Remember this….

    Derick Brassard and a seventh-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft to the Ottawa Senators for forward Mika Zibanejad and a second-round pick in the 2018 draft.

    Now ask yourself….

    What would JG deal to get Gaudreau at this point in the team’s roster with its current pipeline.

  • He’s going to be a Flyer very soon so get use to seeing him.

    Unless if KH is lobbying for it, no way does Johnny hockey pick NYC. He would burn the Rangers within a year or two to sign with Philly, that is why JG/JD won’t try so hard to get him.

    He is a 30 goal scorer… Chris Kreider is triple in size and double in speed and still has yet to put up 29 goals in a season lol. If you thought Zucc had magic hands than you might die from the sickness that Johnny provides.

  • Just ridiculous. He’s a bad fit on either wing — Panarin/Kreider, Buchnevich/Kakko — we’ve set our wingers for the next few years. Why must every available for trade or UFA shiny object be associated with the Rangers?

  • We are weak at center not the wing so for me it isn’t worth doing a trade for him. Our strength is defense and goal tending and we need to trade from those positions to get a center

  • If Gaudreau goes anywhere, he’s going to New Jersey. Perfect for them, and with a new coach and GM, they’ll want to make a splash…and they probably have the money to do it, too.

    • Plus, Gaudreau was born in Salem, NJ. Be great for him to “come back home”. He grew up in NJ until high school (he attended and graduated from Gloucester Catholic H.S. in Gloucester City, NJ…then he moved to Iowa and eventually graduated from Dubuque Senior High School, in Dubuque, Iowa.

      … a little Wikipedia for ya. 🙂

      • After reading the above comments, I see that Philly makes a whole lot of sense for Johnny. Philly is better than NJ, so acquiring JG would propel the Flyers even higher to a top 12 team in the NHL.

  • I’m always hesitant to trade for Western Conference talent. The East is much tougher and the ice much worst. Philly can overpay for him like they did for Hayes, I’d like to see us continue on our path, it’s a much smarter (and brighter) future for us.

  • That’s DeAngelo, Georgiev, and Kravtsov for Gaudreau. This sounds awfully light to me, and probably does to you as well. There’s uncertainty across all three of these guys, and we as Ranger fans likely inflate their value. It’s a safe assumption that the earlier of the 2020 1st rounders would have to be added. Top-pick protected, of course.

    This paragraph just revealed how very little you know about hockey.

  • Every trade post you put DAngelo in. We get it. You hate his politics. Blah blah blah. Get over it already.

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