Irresponsible Rumormongering

Exploring the Jesse Puljujarvi trade scenarios

If the NY Rangers are truly interested, what would it cost?

Admin note: This was written on 11/14, but then news broke that Puljujarvi was going to stay overseas. Now news broke yesterday that a trade nearly happened. The trade fell through because the Oilers were asking for too much. The deadline to trade him and have him play this year is today. I’ve changed around some wording of the post, but if some of it is outdated, it’s because it was written two weeks ago.

The Rangers were interested in Edmonton Oilers winger Jesse Puljujarvi, and they have been for quite some time. The 2016 4th overall pick has requested a trade, and needs to be signed by December 1 in order to play in the NHL this season. He’s currently playing in Finland. If a trade is going to happen, it will go down with enough time for the acquiring team to sign him before that date.

The Oilers are a tough team to gauge in trades, mostly because the new regime is hasn’t made any major trades for us to analyze. It is worth noting that the Oilers are currently in first place in the weak Pacific division and likely view themselves as in the playoff race. Given the timeframe needed to get this done, there are a few possibilities and matches with the Rangers.

The Euro Prospect Swap

There’s been a lot of chatter about a potential Puljujarvi/Lias Andersson swap, although nothing credible has been sourced yet. It’s all speculation based on the similarity of their situations, with Andersson seemingly unable to get off the fourth line. However Andersson has yet to request a trade.

Why this works: The Rangers clearly view Andersson below Filip Chytil and Brett Howden on the depth chart at center, yet won’t move him to wing. The Rangers are also thin at RW and could use the top-nine depth in Puljujarvi. The Oilers are pretty thin at center too.

Why this doesn’t work: Edmonton could be looking to upgrade immediately, and Andersson doesn’t necessarily help them in that regard. Being unable to unseat a clearly struggling Howden or Ryan Strome –of whom the Oilers have extensive knowledge– might not look good to the Oilers.

The Big Trade

At this point in time, all signs are pointing to Chris Kreider getting traded. The Oilers have absolutely no one at LW right now. This is a match made in heaven.

Why this works: The Oilers need the LW depth and, assuming we are reading the tea leaves properly, the Rangers are going to want the best possible offer for Kreider. Puljujarvi, as a former top-five pick, might be the best player they can get.

Why this doesn’t work: The Blueshirts don’t have to trade Kreider right now, and they may get a better deal than Puljujarvi at the deadline. The Oilers would also need to add to Puljujarvi, with the Rangers likely looking at the Kevin Hayes trade as a barometer. A first round pick is a must. Is Edmonton willing to do that?

The Ice Time Heist

Brett Howden is clearly getting more ice time than he should based on his on-ice performance, much like Neal Pionk last year. If the Rangers are showcasing Howden because they are throwing everyone a curveball with the Andersson situation, then Howden could be someone the Oilers, who need center help, could covet.

Why this works: Howden would slide into their 3C role behind Connor McDavid and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, rounding out their center depth. Center depth wins, and the Oilers aren’t dumb enough to not know that. Plus Howden is already getting top-nine minutes with the Rangers.

Why this doesn’t work: Perhaps Edmonton got better scouting and is seeing what we see with Howden. Also he doesn’t have the pedigree that Lias has, at least in terms of draft stock.

The One We Don’t See Coming

Maybe Edmonton doesn’t want to take anyone back to their roster and just wants to take back draft picks? Or perhaps they want to upgrade their blue line and view top pairing Libor Hajek as an essential cog?

Why this works: Have we ever predicted a proper trade? Or trade cost? Or anything? NHL GMs are impossible to predict because we expect the best and get the worst.

Why this doesn’t work: You’d have to assume if they are replacing Puljujarvi, they want someone to upgrade their immediate playoff hopes, or at least get a comparable prospect back.

The Irony Trade

Strome for Puljujarvi, straight up. Not happening, but would make everyone laugh.

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  • Don’t like it … Kreider has to bring back a 1st plus a good prospect and I don’t think the Oilers are going to be willing to move that 1st rounder just yet. Oilers have mishandled Puljujarvi and depressed his trade value, they just don’t think so — yet. Somewhat similar to what we’ve done with Andersson, although the expectations for Andersson were a bit lower and he could still carve out some sort of serviceable career in the NHL.

    We’re not thin on RW — and Kravtsov is waiting in the wings (pun intended). Besides, good chance Puljujarvi is the next Galchenyuk only less effective — a bottom 6 winger that can’t play a bottom 6 game. This is the type of deal where you throw a late 2nd or 3rd rounder at the Oilers, but that will never get it done so I say hard pass.

    • I still think Howden has room to grow and I don’t HATE him, not sure I would want to move any of our center depth for a potential headcase — something Howden definitely isn’t. What goes on in the room can translate to the ice. Best to stay clear of the mercurial sulker and work out a deal for something more “tangible”.

      • Howden is not a good player, despite the fan base thinking that he is.

        All his metrics clearly state that he’s not good and probably will never be. He’s a 4th line player. That’s all he is and will be. He is not close to having the skill to be a top 9 player.

        I would rather take a chance on JP who has elite skill. Andersson can take Howden’s spot easily.

        • So he is a much better player then his metrics suggest. He is still only 21 and has shown on many occasion that he has game.

          If you go by metrics then Emerson Etem, Alex Semin, and Raffi Diaz would still be in the NHL

          • He’s bad bro. I know you like him but he’s the same as Lias, Boo, Gettinger, etc.

            They’re all the same.

        • Just to be informed, Howden has pts in 5 games and none in 20, so far this year. And that’s with playing the 3rd line for most of the year.

          He played 4 minutes 5 on 5 yesterday. so even his biggest fan, Coach Quinn, recognizes that Howden has not been effective with the minutes he’s been getting.

      • Howden is the definition of expendable. You trade bottom 6 (4th liner in this case) for young potential top 6 players every time. Especially during a rebuild, which the Rangers are STILL in the process of. If it doesn’t work out, they haven’t given up anything that will hurt them in the long term.

        • 100% agreed.

          The Rangers have a million Howdens in their system, which is why getting a JP is important. Especially if the trade cost is Howden and NOT a high pick.

          • Don’t get me wrong. He is far from untouchable but at this time, we don’t have the depth at center to trade him because Lias is pure trash as a player.

          • If you put Howden, Lias, Boo, or Gettinger at 4C, then you would not see any difference.

            Howden is expendable. Plenty to replace him with.

          • If you put Howden, Lias, Boo, or Gettinger at 4C, then you would not see any difference.

            Tough to argue with that logic my man…

          • Swarty, I do not see the big deal about Howden at all.

            He is who he is, nothing special. He works hard, but ok, so could any of the others that I mentioned.

            And as much as I don’t think much of Boo, I think that he would bring more offense, as at least he can possess the puck. Howden has no possession skills whatsoever.

  • The big talented Fin would be a good addition to a young Ranger squad if the price is right. I don’t believe he is a head case, he is just looking out for his best interest and doesn’t want to be another Oiler failed high draft pick. Quinn gets a lot of criticism about the manner in which he coaches the young Rangers. But in fact when you watch them play they are coming along quite nicely. Andersson has done nothing to prove he is NHL ready. He needs to find his game in Hartford. If he becomes trade bait, that be quite alright by this Ranger fan.

    • If you mean Andersson for Puljujarvi straight up, then it’s interesting —- even though I prefer depth at center and Puljujarvi is a luxury, we have Kravs waiting and 2 good RWs already. I doubt Puljujarvi is looking for anything OTHER than a shot at Top 6.

  • Krieder is a dead man skating. The Rangers don’t have enough cap space to sign him next season. One of the Rangers right wingers can move to the left wing to take his place. That could even be Puljujarvi if he is acquired.

    • It’s crazy to see some NYR fans can call him a 25-30 goal scorer. He averaged 20-21 goals for about 6 straight season’s which included the good days. That isn’t hard to replace in today’s NHL top 9. Right now JD and JG could easily bank on Chytil, Kakko, Zib and Panarin to put up better numbers than him.

      • Yup. He’s just not going to be worth what he’s going to get on the free agent market. It feels like he’s as close to a guaratee to be traded as there is. Here’s hoping the Rangers don’t fall into the trap that will be Ryan Strome on a long term deal. He should also be dealt when his value is high. Those should be the easy calls, let’s hope the Rangers playing .500 hockey doesn’t sway any of the decison makers into thinking they have a playoff run in them.

  • rangers already have one winger sulking backing in europe (or eurasia? whatever. how is kravtsov doing out there in chelyabinsk anyway?) that hasn’t proven he is top 9 nhl-er yet. maybe we can get them both over here to room together and they can tell each other about how they should both be on the first line 🙂

    joking aside, wouldn’t trade any prime pieces for PJ. hope note at best right now.

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    20m ago

    Puljujarvi, Honka miss deadline, ineligible to play this season. Issue is closed. Edmonton may have been asking for too much, or there really wasn’t interest in the guy, next subject!!!!!!!!!

  • Looking like Kreider is a goner……Rangers are strapped for the green and casualties will be in play….Do the Rangers value TDA and BM over Kreider….I say yes…..Rangers will need money to sign both….I still do not understand why Shatty was bought out over Smith and Staal….Oh wait…..buddy system…….I believe the following players will be moved:


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