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Friday Thoughts

It seems that our usual Thursday musings is turning into the usual Friday musings. I think we can continue that.

1. I am so, so happy that the Bruins did not win again. It honestly has nothing to do with the Bruins themselves, minus Brad Marchand, but more with the fact that the city of Boston has won about 1,500 championships in the past decade. It’s time to spread this stuff out. Plus, St. Louis is a good hockey town and their success story from worst to first is a great one.

2. One thing about the Blues that I love is that they are still calling Craig Berube their interim head coach. The guy just won a Stanley Cup, and he’s not even the “real” coach. That’s just funny to me.

3. Since this is a copycat league, the Blues won with two cornerstone defensemen, a franchise scorer, depth down the middle, and a hot goalie. They didn’t win with “toughness.” They didn’t win with elite level anything other than their crazy hot goalie through the playoffs. They were just a solid team.

4. Comparing that to the Rangers, they certainly lack the cornerstone defensemen, but they are about to get their franchise scorer in Kaapo Kakko. They lack depth down the middle for sure, but that’s really just lacking a true 2C right now. If Filip Chytil grows into that role, then the offensive pieces are there. I know we always harp on this, but the blue line clearly needs work. Right now they have zero cornerstone defensemen, but there is the Lindy Ruff factor and we might not know what the true potential is until he’s gone.

5. The goalie situation in New York is going to get interesting fast. There’s no reason to rush Igor Shestyorkin, so keeping him in the AHL for a year is only going to help. Plus, while he is certainly a prized prospect, he’s no guarantee. Meanwhile Alex Georgiev has shown he can play, he’s still under contract for a year, and if Shestyorkin stumbles he can be retained as either a stopgap or a full on Henrik Lundqvist heir. And yes, we are getting to a point where Lundqvist might not even start the majority of the games next year.

6. I happen to think the Rangers are in a good spot in their rebuild. They have a lot of solid depth. They have some elite skill either budding or coming over. They are getting their franchise player this draft. All of this came in about a year and a half of the rebuild – truly impressive in just a short amount of time. Kudos to Jeff Gorton.

7. Kudos to John Davidson for recognizing that the Rangers’ prospect management is horrible. The coaching staff in Hartford was unceremoniously canned before JD got here, of course, but JD is on record saying this is one of his first areas to address. I have no idea if Tanner Glass is going to play a role in this, but it sounds like he might. JD gets the benefit of the doubt from me, and a player’s success on the ice is rarely tied to success in the front office. Just look at Wayne Gretzky. We have no idea if Glass will be good in this role or not. Heck, it hasn’t even been formally announced yet.

8. Building a comfortable environment for prospects to not only grow as players and as people is critical to this growth. Maturity certainly plays a role here, but if David Quinn was able to keep Tony DeAngelo in check –to what we believe we know so far– then there is hope that the club realizes they will need that same kind of environment for growth for the kids coming from overseas. It’s not just about playing time and ice time, it’s about making them feel at home in Hartford with the multiple language barriers they will undoubtedly be faced with.

9. Pipe dream time: Leverage Anaheim’s mess and get Hampus Lindholm. If it means taking Corey Perry’s contract to facilitate a trade, do it.

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  1. It isn’t the best team in the League that wins the Cup all the time, it’s the team playing best (at Cup time) — I would be hesitant to follow any other team’s “plan”. Chart your own course, follow it with conviction and always draft the best player available.

    1. Blues were in last place at the end of 2018, won the Cup.

      Kings made the playoffs the last day of the regular season, won the Cup.

  2. great write up. In fairness Doug Armstrong has been saying they only have one candidate to fill in the coaching job. I think he means the interim coach(sarcasm)

    But best news of the day is it looks like Erik Karlsson is close to resigning with San Jose. Saving us from ourselves here.

    Lindholm and Perry would be very intriguing. I still think the idea of Colin Miller is a better fit in terms of dollars and need.

    one week from the draft. #2 is easy. Still lots of options at #20 to ponder as well…

    1. Nothing like a red-hot goalie during the playoffs…I didn’t think the blues could win the cup ditto get to the finals…..it comes down to the hot goalie and timely goals……Hell…I don’t even know the goalies name..lol…..made some ridiculous saves in the finals…I am happy for the St.Looooie…..They deserved the cup and we are officially on our march towards lord Stanley.

  3. As we continue to rebuild, the pieces we need are a legitimate scoring threat and a real shutdown pair of defensemen. While Kakko & Kraftsov might grow into these roles, they are no where near ready to step in and be “the man”. This is why the Panarin contract is a huge deal.

    On the defensive side, we need to make moves, plain and simple. Push out the old, bring in the new. THe new could be Trouba or Fox & Hajek, just cannot brink back 5 of the 6 starters on D.

    The Blues show what a team effort can deliver. DQ will make us work hard. THe talent needs to shine through. TO me Buch is the key to the 2029/20 campaign. If he breaks out, the rest will fall in place.

    1. This is my 2 week wishlist:

      1) Sign Panarin – in case this team is more competitive than we expect the next couple seasons
      2) Trade Trouba – for one or two of our young expendable Forwards, Pionk, and any pick other than our #20 pick
      3) 1st Round – Hughes/Kakko and move up into Top 12 if a Forward with high upside drops
      4) Trade Shatt, Buyout Staal, and trade/buyout Smith (happy to eat half of salraies and come away with 2 4-6th round drfats picks
      5) Keep Kreider if all the above falls into place

      This would create an exciting season though still not with high expectations. This will also give a good number of our young D a chance to play. Now, more than ever, we need to find out what we have on the young blueline.

      Oh and one last one:

      6) move Ruff into a scouting or admin role

  4. Re point #3: “… the Blues won with two cornerstone defensemen, a franchise scorer, depth down the middle, and a hot goalie. They didn’t win with “toughness.” They didn’t win with elite level anything other than their crazy hot goalie through the playoffs. They were just a solid team.” TEAM is the key word in that sentence. Watching Tarasenko play shows that he gets that. He may be the “franchise scorer”, but he knows that the TEAM wins. Is Panarin that type of player? Will Kakko turn out to be one? I agree with SaMerc: “DQ will make us work hard”. If the whole team buys in, we’re going to contend again, sooner rather than later.

    1. Winning is as much about attitude as it is about talent – that said, you need a good helping of both. The Blues showed grit, guts and a relentlessness that is necessary. I think that Hank and the other 2 goalies need to show the defense that they can make some minor mistakes and not get burned. Strong goalie play will allow our young defense to grow into a stronger position.

      I think we need some success, something like 16 points in the first 12 or 13 games would be a strong way to start. The kids all need to step up. DQ will sit them if they stray.

      We may not be a cup contender, but a trip to the playoffs does not seem out of the question.

  5. Dave – I think that was one of your best posts ever since I agree with almost all of it. One disagreement though: re: toughness. Blues were one of the heaviest teams ever, and in a clean non fighting way. Just continually took their toll on their opponents, especially in a long playoff series. As Deboer said post Sharks-Blues series: “I think the two hardest, heaviest teams are in the Final….everybody talks about skill and speed and there’s room for all of these small players, there’s room for that, but I didn’t think it’s an accident. There’s no space, they’re heavy, they’re hard, they’re organized. There wasn’t any room out there…………”

    I think this is significant since it is an area the Rangers seem to be significantly lacking, for all the good prospects we have and are about to add to. We have a small, not particularly hard hitting, D and only a few heavy forwards. I don’t see the Rangers, as currently constituted being hard to play against – more like Tampa-light. Both JG and JD have a history of appreciating the need for toughness so I believe it will be on their to do list to address this deficiency. But addressing it is important if we are to get to the promised land.

    1. Excellent point. The second toughest team in the league is not going to look all that tough playing against Boston – but make no mistake, the 2019 SC playoffs were a triumph for toughness. Critical though, as it was in 1994, you need players like Pat Maroon and not players like Tanner Glass or Cody McLeod.

    2. Regarding toughness: The playoffs are just a different animal. Players that don’t necessarily play a heavy game all the time can switch to that mode, it’s all about attitude and character — you don’t have to draft/sign players that are constantly bulls in china shops … AND YET we’ve been drafting size – Chytil, Kakko (hopefully), Kravtsov, Miller, Lindgren, Hajek … we have size – Kreider, Buchnevich, Zibby, Skjei and Howden … what we need now is to teach (or bring out) the type of attitude found in players like Lemieux and DeAngelo, it has to be a TEAM attitude come playoff time and it works BOTH ways, you have to give but you also have to learn how to take and bounce back (there are no free rides in the playoffs)

      Personally I think we have the required components and I was happy to see a little more “heavy play” from guys like Zibby and Buchnevich (2nd half of the year) this year — that bodes well for the future. Stay the course, avoid shiny objects this summer and remember that “objects in the mirror are closer than they appear” — in other words, the mirror distorts perception in the same way that seeing a guy play 20 times instead of 82 times in a year distorts our perception of a player.

      1. I don’t think that works – taking soft players like Chytil and Zibby and teaching them to be tough. And while size does matter – not all big players have it in them to play tough.What does help is having enough tough players that the softies grind a bit more – that is how you achieve TEAM toughness, or attitude if you will.

        Andersson, for all his faults, plays a grinding tough game. Fast too but I fear he is almost worn out already. On the back end it is the guys we need to get rid of (Staal & Smith) that are among the toughest. That is a problem. ADA has bite but he struggles physically also against the big power forwards. Miller is years away, and I understand for all his physical attributes he is not a particularly physical dman. But he has time to develop that I hope. Lindgren is physical but appears to be a border line 3rd pair dman at best.

        1. It isn’t so much about teaching them something that was never IN them in the first place, it’s more about unlocking it (bring it out as I stated) … and to their “achievable” degree, which varies for each player. I don’t expect Chytil will ever play like Lemieux … or even Kakko … or play like a Kreider, you just need him to elevate his hard game as much as he’s capable. I think we saw this with Buch in the second half of the season, his game was harder — but not hard like say a Lemieux — and that’s OK as long as everyone has some level of toughness in them, both to give but even more importantly a level of toughness that allows them to play through the “take”.

    3. I probably should clarify that when I say “toughness” in quotes like that, I’m referring to fighting and goons. Tough to play against is different than a goon who fights and does nothing else.

      1. So when in quotes it’s old school Broad Street bully toughness, not 1994 NYR SC winning toughness. 😉

    4. Toughness was on display with both teams, bodies flying, hard hits, yet clean. The Conn Smyth winner, ROR, is also a Lady Bing type of player, clean as a whistle, very few penalties. There were times during these PO games where I thought how can this guy, or that guy endure those hits, yet get up and continue to play. I remember Ovie going after Dougie Hamilton, hitting him sooooo hard that time, and again, Hamilton made zero attempt to go after the puck because he heard that freight train, Ovie, coming down the track, and he was terrified of getting hit by him again. Those type of hits take their tolls, and at the end of the PO’s, the team that wanted it more won, not necessarily the best team!!!!!!!!

  6. I’m so torn. On one side, I’m hoping for a defensive off season overhaul. Literally Shattenkirk, Skjei and Smith traded, bought-out, buried in the minors, half salary retention… just get a younger better puck moving dmen. Sign Panarin, even though I don’t understand why he would want to sign here.
    on the other.
    stand fast. do very little. resign the needed UFA’s. keep the salary open, sign some spot fillers and call it a summer.
    Go into the season with Kakko, Fox and the Russians. Make them the attention of the summer plans.
    There’s no reason to even consider playing for a playoff position because the evaluation of these 2-3 nightly rookies playing in large rolls will need a full seasons attention. and just to add, if you got excited about the potential in this years draft class just once, you’re going to really have a spazz when you come to realize next years class makes 2019 look like we went shopping at K-mart thinking it was 5th Ave.
    So be bad again. it might be the best option in the long game plan.
    but again I’m torn.

    I like Kreider. He’s great. but for a young Vesalanien or Tolvanen? Heponiemi and Denisanko? that’s hard.
    I like Staal. He’s a good defensemen. Mentoring kids is most likely in his blood. Considering his family history. but less games, less ice time.

    1. Tolvanen is as good as he’s gonna get: a 2nd line AHLer. He’s already got mass on his undersized frame, asides from his 3 month stretch to start with Jokerit, his production looks like he’s on the same production path from his USHL days.

      If you’re looking for heavy guys who are hard to play against, he ain’t one of them.

      Pure perimeter.

    2. Vesalainen? Same deal. Had a pretty good D+1 season(slightly better than Kakko, even played with the same center) on a bad team but took a step back with Jokerit. Plays the game the right way but not even in the same ballpark as Kakko, a passenger on the ice.

      Bird in hand and all that.

      1. suggestions. other teams top talent was more the point I was getting at. wingers specifically.

        1. You don’t need prospects(who may not be prospects) now, you’ve got plenty of them now and in the pipeline.

          You need to support the prospects you have with talented players, you need to fix a D that has no easy solutions.

          Moving Kreider for Trouba solves nothing for WPG, trades one problem for another for the Rangers. Getting Trouba also makes the D problem worse as leverage up for the other team.

          In 5 years, when the current group of kids are coming off ELCs & possibly bridge deals to big money, you need picks drafted from the year or 2 before to start stepping in.

          So do you deal Kreider for long dated picks? Heck no.

          Sign him, front load those 1st 2 seasons, bonus year 3 and *if* you had to move him to get the right assets because his role is about to be filled by someone else, you’re dealing from strength.

          As opposed to the Shatty deal, where even with a frontloaded deal is unmoveable because of :
          1: the all salary of this year
          2: the fundamentally poor evaluation of him.

  7. So It’s Lindy Ruff’s fault that some of defensemen don’t do the jobs they are paid to do? Really guy? Are these players paid to do their jobs? Is it not up to them to be responsible to do what they get paid for? You young people make me laugh, you think as people get older they aren’t good anymore. You think your analytics is the be all cure all to the so called New NHL. I’m following this sport longer then most of your ages. Some things change a little here and there but it’s still hockey my friend. 5 guys trying to but the puck in the net on one side and stop it on the other end. I’m sick of hearing how the defense is Ruff’s fault. B.S. the players are to blame period!

    1. Watch hockey from 40 years ago(when the Rangers played for the cup), the game is not the same from what it was 25 years ago(when the Rangers won the cup) let alone today beyond the fact that there’s 10 skaters, 2 goalies and a puck on a sheet of ice.

      The pace is faster, the goalies have better gear(if JD had Hanks equipment, he probably wouldn’t have gotten the sciatica that ended his career.) the amount of scouting/video prep is ages beyond even 10 years ago.

      Analytics still can’t tell me who’s a good defender(too much noise) but it lets me look harder at outliers.

    2. Yes, players are responsible for how they play … but not in a vacuum. The “coach” is paid and tasked with getting the most out of his players and establishing a system that works to their abilities, as much as that is possible. He’s also tasked with putting the 6 best d’men out on the ice for any given night — as opposed to assuming that the 6 best should always include the oldest vets. It may not be all Ruff’s fault, but he’s played a large part — and like they say, it’s easier to fire one coach than to trade all the players.

  8. Great post except the toughness part. You don’t win in this league with a bunch of soft perimeter skill players. Every team that’s won the cup gping back the last 10 years has had an element of both skill AND toughness. Not gooning it up toughness but , playable toughness. our only players that fit that role now are Lemiuex, Kreider when he wants to be, Vesey more often then not, Fast and that’s about it. Kakko has an element of it but is young. Howden had it in juniors but not so much in the NHL last season.

    We could certainly use a dmen like Parayko and Pieteranlgelo. Only dman with that type of upside I see is Seider. Maybe he is the guy at 20 if still there though I don’t think he will be. Been reading too much positive stuff about him lately. They will have to find those dmen somewhere in the other rounds. I don’t have any faith whatsoever of Clark’s ability to find one. Miller certainly has that size but is still very raw. Hopefully he develops into that type of player.

    1. Re: K’Andre Miller: He does have the size and the physical skills, but you are right that he is quite raw. Defensemen often take a while to mature. I don’t expect Miller on the big club for a while, but his potential seems huge if it is harnessed.

      1. Lindholm is a lot better option then Trouba. Sorry but I still not see why this crowd is so pumped up over the Pegs right handed Dman. If the Rangers want a stabilizing defenceman they should give CBJ a call. Ryan Murray could be available for perhaps a 2nd rounder. No need to trade Howden or Anderson who at this juncture of their careers are no where near showing their true potential.

        1. “Sorry but I still not see why this crowd is so pumped up over the Pegs right handed Dman”

          Because he’s a legit top pair D man that we do not currently have? And just going into his prime?

          1. Richter… Trouba is an above average NHL defenseman. He is not a impact player that will lead the Blueshirts to the promised land. It would be a mistake for the Rangers to give up young talented players to acquire Jacob and he will be asking for the moon when it comes time to resign. There are better options out there for the Rangers to improve their Blueline without chasing Mr. Trouba.

            1. You’re a very knowledgeable hockey guy, no doubt Bloomer, I respect your opinion, and trust me, I have this debate with a lot of Ranger fans, because they share the same opinion you do.

              But the fact of the matter is that Trouba’s underlying #s are pretty good, not elite, but pretty good. He would be a top pair D man for many teams in the league, including the Rangers. He would play 25 solid minutes per night, in all 3 phases of the hockey game.

              He is just starting to put up offense and is entering his prime. He’s not getting $11M per, probably $7M per, which is not egregious for a top pair D man these days. He and Skjei would make a very good pairing and push the younger D men down the pairings, taking pressure off of them.

              But this will make you happy. I don’t think the Rangers overpay in trade for him and Detroit has always been on Jacob’s list. So I would put the Rangers getting him at less than 50 50.

              But if the 20th pick, Andersson, and Pionk get it done, then you do that deal every day of the week.

  9. We need a stud on both the defensive and offensive sides of the ice. We may have near-studs with our crop of kids, but not enough to push us over the top. The next 3 weeks will define our future. Picks, trades and signings to define the NYR for the next 5 years in 21 days. Hold on to your seat because it is gonna get interesting.

  10. Anaheim doesn’t have the defensive depth anymore to deal anybody unless they’re tanking and want two of our crappy D for Perry & Lindholm.

    2 years ago before the expansion draft, they had depth. Then they didn’t.

  11. #6. No, the Rangers do not have depth. Kakko excepted probably, prospects are not the same thing as hockey players. If you look at Chityl, Andersson, Howden, Hajek, Rykov, Fox, Shestyorkin, the chances that at least one of this group will not be the hockey player Tanner Glass was is pretty high. It is an exciting time for fans, but the group is going to thin out. Yes, some of the second tier prospects will emerge, but still there is no guarantee of good numbers or for that matter excellence.

    I am not convinced that the forward situation will necessarily be better than last year when the Rangers were forced to play Connor Brickley, Lias Andersson, Vinni Lettieri, Cody McLeod, Brendan Smith because they did not have enough legitimate forwards. With Lemieux, Kakko, Kravtsov replacing Hayes, Zuccarello, the numbers are not very different, especially if Kravtsov is not yet NHL ready.

    And with the moves a lot here wish to make, the defense could be just as thin if the prospects are not yet ready.

    #5. Watching the masterful way Binnington managed zone exits for St. Louis throughout the playoffs (probably more critical against San Jose), one sees how much the perception of the defense pair is influenced by the goalie. Sure, Bobby Orr and Brian Leetch would look good in front of #30, but they are the exception. I’d like to see Georgiev and Shesty get 35 games each in NY next year and 13 each in Hartford. That would still give Halverson 50 games. Hank could play against the Devils and a few other teams.

    Reality check: When everyone who plays in front of Lundqvist looks bad, just maybe it isn’t them.

    1. Ray – excellent post about the prospects for those who think we are ready to make a run if we sign one superstar. As you say we have prospects more than actually good hockey players. Some are overrated and not all the good prospects will advance to being a good hockey players. Gorton has done a good job but we are only in the middle of the rebuild. Pronman says the rebuild has been lacking cornerstone prospects and he said we are about to get one in Kakko. Still need to see if the Chytils, Anderssons, Howdens can actually become good players; they all stunk last year from an advance analytics perspective, which is to be expected.

      And that doesn’t even take into account that the defense figures to be pretty poor and the King’s best days are behind him.

      Still a lot to sort through with the prospects before we are ready to take the next step. And we will be well served to rid ourselves organically of the bad contracts (Staal, Smith, Shatty & the King) over the next 2 years and avoid entering into a new bad one (ie Karlsson).

    2. Ray of Sunshine, here’s our forward group after the draft this year:

      Kreider-Zib-Buch
      Kravtsov-Chytil-Kakko
      Lemieux-Howden-Strome
      Vesey-Andersson-Namestnikov

      We still have Fast and have Boo.

      Point is, barring a whole lot of injuries we don’t need a Brickley, a Lettieri and/or a McLeod … and as far as Smith is concerned, well he looked pretty damn good in a 4th line role.

      You may disagree but they’re all legitimate forwards (even Smith if he plays as well as he did at the end of the season).

      … and what if we sign Panarin, then what?

      I think we’re definitively better up front. There will be bumps in the road, but I see some 3rd liners playing on the 4th line, some 2nd liners that might at the beginning belong on the 3rd and then there’s Quickie. This looks like a competent group of forwards, top to bottom … that should only get better as the season progresses.

      1. You are dreaming. Neither Andersson nor Chityl was an NHL player last year and, while they both may make it eventually, expecting it from Andersson this year is absurd. Howden was marginal at best. There is no guarantee Kravtsov is ready either. And you are dressing the worst first line in hockey — 13 goals in 400 minutes over the last two years. Granted, one can create a decent first line by using Fast in place of Buch. Boo is a reasonable injury reserve, not a guy you want in the top twelve. Only Zib, Kreider, Kakko are legitimate top six at this point.

        1. Right Ray, who the hell knows how we finished just 4 games under .500 with so many shit non-nhl players … and we even traded away two of them at the deadline! lol

  12. The NYR team next year will be comprised of potential threats on offense and has-beens on defense. Unless Gorton gets rid of 2 or 3 defensemen from last year, our blueline again will be atrocious.

    As far as the forwards go, Chytil, Andersson and Howden have done nothing to make me think they are top 6 players. Kraftsov and Kakko have yet to lace up NHL skates, so to say there will be a learning curve is being kind.

    We need a stud on both sides of the blueline. Trouba would help, but only if we get rid of Shatty/Smith and or Pionk. If you want the kids to play, you need to provide them with playing time.

    As far as a forward is concerned, not sure if Panarin is the right guy, but if we are undergoing a Russian revolution, he may not be bad to help Kraftsov and Buch.

    I just cannot guess what kind of team we will have come opening day.

    1. Yup and our defense group will likely still be poor, at least next year, even if we get rid of Smith and Staal and replace them with our mid level prospects ie Hajek, LIndgren, Pionk etc. I am optimistic that Fox will develop quickly but I still think you have to accept the first year in the league for most young dmen as training for the future, with the growing pains that it entails.

      1. Fox looked *really* good at the worlds.

        He might have problems with the pace of the schedule, but not the talent.

        1. Yes, that applies to all rookies but especially college ones … and even more so those out of the IVY, although at least Fox has had those extra International games almost every year.

  13. I know it’s Saturday now, but here are my thoughts (this order does not coincide with David’s above, but are just random thoughts):

    1) The Rangers will not overpay, in trade and in FA. So while Panarin and Trouba are the main targets, I do not think the Rangers go “all in” for either one of them.

    2) Which means that other players will be considered, players in their mid 20s who may be available.

    3) What to do with Kreider? Like I have said, it comes down to term. If CK wants Kane’s contract, 7 x 7, I think the Rangers trade him for an NHL player(s), not picks or future assets.

    4) Who do they pick at 20? I hope Brink and I am warming to Seider. But if Kaliyev is there at 15, then the Rangers need to trade up to get him.

    5) Ruff needs to go. Have him go play with Tanner Glass or make smoothies or do something other than being in charge of the D during games.

    6) More cap space is needed. Seems like Smith and Shatty are the likely candidates.

    7) I trust JD and JG,

    8) Get Gordie Clark a Rolex after the draft and thank him for his service, as Clark “retires.”

    1. A big thumbs up to your last post Tony, it’s spot on. Like you, I think the Kaliyev kid is worth going after if available. He is a natural sniper, 51 goals @ 51 helpers this season, you have to make that move. His defensive gave is questionable, but so is Kreider’s and no one gripes about him.

      I was looking at potential players available with our second #1, Raphael Lavoie seems like another that would be great to have. An NHL exec said that he hopes some team drafts him before he can, sounds like there may be questions about him, but he would be a nice pick up as well. The Krebs kid had surgery to repair a torn Achilles tendon yesterday, and may drop down in the standings as well. Great to be in such a wonderful position to get not just one, but two outstanding kids in the first round!!!!!!!!!

      1. Agreed Walt.

        I think the Rangers have to go offense this first round (both picks, if they still have the 20th pick).

        I have read up on Seider, I am liking him more and more. Defensive lock down type D man, big, but who can SKATE, even with his size.

        I get concerned about some of these D men that are putting up big #s, and it does matter what league they play in (right Del Zotto?). What I like about Fox is that while he did do it in a lesser league, he did well in international tournaments.

        They have 2 firsts, one will be a no brainer and the other should be used for a high reward type of thing, and those players will be there at 20, especially if there is a run on D men after 15 and Spencer Knight gets drafted before 20. Forwards will drop to 20.

        Love Kailiyev. I do not expect him to drop since the Yutes, Wild, Canucks all need offense, but you never know. Alex Newhook is another guy, that if he is at 15, another trade up candidate, but I doubt that he gets past the Yutes and the Wild.

        1. Tony

          Another kid who is worth going after, may well be Podkolzin. He is signed to an KHL contract for two more years, and this may well drive teams away from him, but I think he would be worth the wait. SOOOOOOOOOO many possibility’s, so many good kids, and that’s just the first round. We really can stack our AHL team, with prospects with later rounds that could be NHL quality players. Let the draft begin.

          As for the cry babies in black, and gold, screw them, especially Jacobs, that tight piece of dog dong. That clown, along with Ed Snyder both should go to hell with what they did to us fans, and the lock out, I’ll never forgive either of them for it!!!!!!!!

          PS, for those who didn’t know this about the Kaliyev kid, he grew up on Staten Island, and could well be a Ranger fan?????????

      1. It’s going to be interesting pal, not just for the Rangers, but league wide.

        I think this offseason, teams start making changes to their roster, and with the next expansion draft in mind as well.

  14. One more thing on Boston losing: Watching Marchand cry was priceless!!

    Actually one more, lol: Hearing the Bees whine about the officiating with one of the biggest cheap shot artists in league history on their team was comical. Didn’t the refs know that Mr. Jacobs, a Bettman crony, owns the team!!!!??????

      1. It goes back to the late 60’s with Espo, Orr, Green, Johnny Buchek, Sanderson, Cheevers, the entire Big Bad Bruins who beat us time and again during that era!!!!!!!!!

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