Why James Dolan’s comments are both concerning and promising

During yesterday’s practice, James Dolan made a surprise appearance to watch the Rangers on the ice and chat with reporters. Dolan very rarely sits to chat with the media, so when he does, people take notice. Colin Stephenson of Newsday got the good quotes, and there were certainly some interesting nuggets.

The word “interesting” is used loosely here, as the first quote out of Dolan’s mouth is that he believes the Rangers can compete, as any team with Henrik Lundqvist can compete. He doesn’t believe that any team should tank, because it presents a poor mindset for the players. There’s also the fans to consider, who pay money to see quality teams on the ice/court (he was also addressing questions about the Knicks).

Dolan also acknowledged that people want both teams to lose and tank for better picks. He specifically called out the Rangers as a team that he believes can make the playoffs and possibly win a round. Probably because of Henrik Lundqvist.

Focusing on the Blueshirts, because this is a Rangers blog and I honestly haven’t watched the Knicks since 2000, this presents a concern. Hockey is the ultimate team sport and one player cannot carry a team at all. We’ve seen time and time again, when generational talents arrive and they cannot do it themselves. Lundqvist. Connor McDavid. These are elite players that have flawed teams around them, and the teams suffer because they rely too much on the stars.

Yes, any team with Lundqvist in net can win, but they need to get there first. They need sustained offense and reliable defense. They need to be able to play a game without hanging Hank out to dry on a nightly basis. And if the rest of the league has shown us, they need an elite offensive talent –preferably more than one– in order to truly compete.

Finding that talent comes from the draft. The higher the picks, the better the odds. While the Rangers may have already found their first two elite talents in Filip Chytil and Vitali Kravtsov, they are both far from a sure thing. Meanwhile Jack Hughes and Kaapo Kakko, the sure fire 1-2 picks this year, are considered sure things. Add one of them to the prospect pool, and the rebuild goes from 3-4 years to 1-3 years.

The good news here is that while Dolan may present an outdated and flawed mindset in how to rebuild, he is showing that he will put the team first, before his bottom line. That’s a bit misleading, because Dolan is a multi-billionaire and even bad Knicks/Rangers teams make money. But hey, it’s something.

Dolan is by no means a perfect owner. His quest for competing teams has led both the Rangers and the Knicks down dark paths. He’s bought into the rebuild, at least on the surface. But as Rob said yesterday, the Rangers have yet to show us they are all-in on this rebuild.

Mr. Dolan, there are no half measures.

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44 thoughts on “Why James Dolan’s comments are both concerning and promising

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 6:29 am

    Dolan’s “mistake” and it’s a recurring one, is that he likes “big names” running his teams, even if they are not qualified anymore.

    Sather is old, outdated, and completely out of touch with today’s NHL. And yet, Dolan has given him a “lifetime contract” (very true, you can look it up). 20 years and no Cup, don’t you think it’s time to move on from this guy? And Sather can take his bro Gordie Clark with him, and finally turn the reigns over to Gorton, in earnest.

    Hiring Phil Jackson was another disaster. There was no #1 players in the world on the Knicks to bail out Jackson. Re-signing Carmelo was such a dumb and stupid move that it basically got Jackson fired.

    So why did Jackson get fired and not Sather? Because Dolan goes to the Knick games and he’s a fan. He doesn’t go to the Rangers’ games, or at least we have never heard that he does.

    My brother worked for Cablevision years ago, and yes, Jimmy Boy is as dumb as he appears to be. And as much of a diva. His dad Charles has given him everything that he has, so the only thing that Jimmy Boy did correctly was be Charles’ son. That’s it, luck of the birth.

    Mazol tov Jimmy Boy, while we as fans suffer.

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 12:01 pm

      It can be difficult to stop the owner from meddling. Rarely does it work it works and it usually just makes things worse – but it ALWAYS is painful.

      Sather put together some competitive teams over the recent past, but he did so by mortgaging the future.

      Gordie has not had a lot of decent drafting slots to work with, be he just continues to confound with his choices. If Igor, Kravtsov, and Miller pan out then kudos for balancing out a few good ones with a track record of horribleness.

      Overall talent evaluation and the choices related to that has been horrible for years. With the Lias debacle the asset management is now just as bad. Clearly Sather is running this part of it and just needs to go and he needs to take Gordie with him.

      I’m on the fence with Gorton.

      But I will say this once again – There needs to be a new body at the top of the hockey operations who can take control and draw the boundaries to insulate (or at least attempt to insulate) the hockey operations from the owner. Unfortunately, It is difficult to think of someone who is available who can fit the description.

      I know many do not agree with this, but personally, I would love to see JD get a shot at the top spot. He is a Ranger through and through and brought stability to the Blues and now Columbus. The down side is that I fear Dolan would meddle even more with JD than he does now.

      Other than JD – Steve Yzerman is really the only person that comes to mind. He has stepped aside in Tampa to spend more time at home in Detroit which means he is basically already signed to take over for Kenny Holland when his contract ends this year.

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 1:53 pm

      I’ve soured quite a bit on Gorton since The Letter, frankly. It was great that he got potential overpays for Nash and Grabner, but neither of those are exactly brilliant surefire fleecings. Those were moves where the team in the rental market probably should have been honest with their chances and not made those acquisitions at those costs, but it does look like Gorton managed to do better than he could have. Big difference between minor victories like that and a brilliant GM play, though. The TB deal was mediocre at best compared to what some other GMs have gotten for “star” players (whether backed by the current numbers or not, we all know the name still matters heavily). Then he goes and brings back McLeod. Then he goes and acquires McQuaid, which would have been bad even if it was just for Kampfer and a conditional 7th…but for some reason, Gorton decided to throw in that 4th (essentially negating the plus value return for Nash to the rebuild, to note). Honestly, I don’t think Rangers fans have been nearly hard enough on Gorton for those two moves. Those are really stupid moves even for a team looking to balance out their depth to contend right now, and just plain asinine for a team looking to rebuild. Finally, he moved Spooner and somehow managed not to get a single future in the process. I understand there probably isn’t/wasn’t a huge market for Spooner, but c’mon now. Strome is a completely known quantity at this point and it is very unlikely he will ever be more than he is in the NHL (save being on a line with an elite player or two next to him propping him, of course…which we can’t offer).

      I dunno. I’ve been trying to fight flying off the handle on this, but I think Sather and Gorton both need to go. Gorton has made a fair number of mistakes so far in his tenure, and not just “Wow, that backfired although I get taking the risk” type of stuff. No, he hasn’t pulled a complete Chiarelli yet…but that’s a pretty low bar. He either is being completely puppet-mastered by Sather still – because let us not fool ourselves, going for guys who were at their peak about six years ago like McQuaid and believing not one but two goons is necessary is totally Satheresque – or worse yet, he thinks a lot/exactly like Sather on his own, and that’s how he got there in the first place. I’m beginning to really lean hard towards the latter at this point. I doubt he would be sticking around this long if these moves were being shoved down his throat against his will. I fear Gorton is much more of a Good Hockey Man than most of us wanted to admit. I hope and pray he proves me dead wrong this deadline…but I’m not at all convinced that he will.

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 6:22 pm

        I have no problem with your general conclusion, but I would differ somewhat on the Spooner-Strome trade. In hindsight foresight for some, signing Spooner to a $4M two year deal was dumb. The result was that Spooner (equipped with salary) was a liability, not an asset. And you can’t simply trade a liability for an asset. You essentially have to give somebody something to get them to take the liability off your hands (or, as in the case of Girardi, reduce the liability with a buyout). Ryan Strome was a $3.1M player Edmonton did not want and JG took him off Edmonton’s hands and paid the salary differential to get Edmonton to take Spooner. The Rangers were not going to get anything here.

        Oddly, in June, I advocated non-tendering Namestnikov on the grounds that he would be overpaid and end up as a liability. This was ridiculed of course. I may still have been right, but looking back, the wise course would have been to non-tender Spooner (or of course if possible, get some return when he still had perceived value). My rating of Spooner over Namestnikov was clearly wrong.

        However, in the same vein as the rest of your comment, I thought the Skjei, Vesey, Namestnikov, Spooner contracts were all too generous. You don’t pay a so-so bottom six guy $2M per and you don’t pay non-stars like stars.

    • Jan 9, 2019 at 3:03 pm

      Dolan is a huge cash cow wind bag….and let’s face it fellow Ranger fans, this is a tank job, but sort of like a controlled tank….We are going to freefall whether us Ranger fans like it or not and it’s understandable that Ranger fans are angry…The direction of the team is mind boggling…..so with this I say that I am all for the tanking as long as it produces a solid foundation as I have mentioned in previous posts….Seriously Hank should at least explore the possibility of asking for a trade so that he can get a last shot at a cup..

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 7:32 am

    Dolan is by no means a perfect owner. His quest for competing teams has led both the Rangers and the Knicks down dark paths.

    No way Jose is Jimmy a perfect owner, he’s as dumb as a stump. Making remarks like he did makes me think he found his bottle again, and is dipping into the juice heavily.

    We have seen time and again that this management team is a farce. Sather is probably some 10 years behind the time, but that’s fine, he gets his $1 million a year for doing zippo. The scouting team is questionable, the development program at the Pack leaves plenty to be desired. The signing of old farts, Mc Quade anyone is so frustrating, it just boggles my mind. Keeping players around tooooooooo long, and thinking you can get a decent return, wow.

    I have one suggestion for Jimmy boy, stay the hell away from the team’s day to day operation, get some progressive thinking management types to run the show. The game has evolved into something Sather, and the likes can’t understand, so replace them with people like Shannahan, big Lou, Bowman, etc.

    Jimmy boy, one request, go under a rock, and leave well enough alone, you are a waste of time, and energy!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 9:39 am

      Spot on Walt. And I tell you what, i really like your point about the scouts and the player development people, and we need to get better people into the organization. First stop should be Tampa Bay for poaching, maybe with a stop in Nashville on the way down to try and get some of their scouts. And that does not cost us against the cap either. It’s a no brainer. We talk about having the right player for the system, but we also need the right scouts to find those players and the right coaches in Hartford to develop those players. Welcome to the rebuild. Let’s get it right…

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 7:35 am

    jumping the gun here again. Just because there are no “moves” being made doesn’t mean they wont, aren’t or can’t.
    Why not just admit that you guys are bent up because you are bored and waiting for the trade deadline. So you need something to bitch about.
    that’s how its coming across anyway. There were a lot of direct quotes from the Dolan interview you didn’t use. And the one you did use, you misconstrued and twisted it all up.
    Read the Larry Brooks piece.

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 12:11 pm

      Wow….I read this and thought OMG they are going to buy..then I took your advice and read the Brooks article. I mean can we completely take only the quotes we want to get clicks? Must say Dave…surprised you took this route. Dolan is 100% in for the rebuild.

      See below from Brooks article there is absolutely zero to be concerned about…He even says we wont lung for the playoffs.

      “The stew has just gotten on the flame, so like everybody else, I’m waiting to see who we’re going to be,” Dolan told two reporters Monday after taking in his team’s practice in advance of Tuesday’s match against the Golden Knights. “I’m very happy with our coach, he’s a teaching coach, a development coach who understands how to work with kids, bring their level up and build a team.

      “I’m very happy with how the organization is organizing itself around development. We’re staying the course.”

      “It shouldn’t surprise you too much,” he said of this slide. “It’s an opportunity, though, to learn, especially for the kids. They’ll probably always remember this dip because it’s so dramatic. Hopefully we won’t see one again. This is part of the learning process.”

      “I’m pleased that we’re following the strategy we agreed on,” Dolan said. “I don’t want them lunging for the playoffs. Nobody’s job depends on whether we make the playoffs or not, although the team still believes we can make it.”

      “It’s still a development year, but the one thing with the team that shouldn’t be a surprise to anybody is that Hank can carry a team,” Dolan said, citing Henrik Lundqvist. “I think our success up until this point is largely attributable to Hank, but that’s not what our plan is.

      “Our plan, of course, is to stay with Hank but develop these kids and have a potent team besides the goalie. That’s coming along, but they’re young. The older guys, I think are contributing, but we’re not expecting to compete for a Stanley Cup this year.”

    • Jan 9, 2019 at 3:06 pm

      Larry Brooks is old news and not the inside info mole that he once was…right Richter?

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 8:01 am


    We got some seeds in the ground, we’re watching them grow… more seeds on the way… it’s time to ship out some loved players to get this GARDEN going baby!


  • Jan 8, 2019 at 8:05 am

    James Dolan is a loathsome human being. Never forget that this man thinks Isiah Thomas is a knowledgeable sports executive. Or that he paid nearly $12 million in a court judgment in a sexual harassment case where Thomas was clearly guilty, after ignoring the advice of his attorneys to settle the case out of court. Dolan’s band sucks too, good thing he forces all his employees come out to his NYC shows, otherwise nobody would come out.

    Inherited wealth is a curse on human society, it makes people stupid, narcissistic, and spoiled.

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 8:11 am

    I don’t know Dave, seems to me that anyone that thinks that the Rangers could make the playoffs and win a round has expectations that give Quinn permission to keep playing the McQuaids and the Smiths and the McLeods instead of the youngsters. That is exactly the wrong thing to be doing at this juncture.

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 8:46 am

      See, you left out Dolan’s “kid quotes” about their learning process and we get this massive jump to conclusion.
      Dolan, said this
      “But with the Rangers, no,’’ he said. “I think the team believes they still have an excellent shot at making the playoffs, and if they keep getting better, by the time they get to the playoffs, they’ll be a better team than they are today. And maybe they got a shot to get past the first round, or whatever. I mean, it gets them more playoff experience.
      “I think teams that tank are giving away something really big,’’ he said. “I think they’re giving away that emotional development for the team . . . So none of my teams are going to tank. I’ll never tell a team to lose.’’ -NEWSDAY

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 8:58 am

        See, you are attempting to attach meaning to a bunch of meaningless platitudes, spoken to you by an idiot scion of a billionaire family. “…and if they keep getting better, by the time they get to the playoffs, they’ll be a better team…”—utter brilliance, huh? If a team near the bottom of the standings improves enough to make the playoffs, they’ll be a better team! Incredible insight from a man so obnoxious and bad at his job that he makes clowns like George Steinbrenner look modest and highly competent. Maybe Guitar Jimmy will put a gold star on your employee review, Quinton!

        • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:00 am

          “…the team believes…”

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:00 am

      Peter, like others have pointed out, do you really want an owner who throws his players under the bus when they’re trying to REBUILD a winning culture? Should Dolan say we suck, we’re probably going to suck even more after the deadline and the Organization is happy to ice a pathetic team during this long and hard process. Please continue to support our losing ways. Thank you for your money.

      No, at least not in public — but again, focus on deeds, not words. The trade deadline is fast approaching, let’s see what they DO and not what they say. If there’s a positive asset gain they’re behind the rebuild, if they try to bring in “help” over the age of 26+ then we have a problem — although they could do the latter over the summer with under 27 year old UFAs as part of a phase 2 rebuild.

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:43 am

        I understand what you are saying regarding public support for the team and I have never said that they should say that they suck publicly. However, I am concerned that the idea that they should strive for the playoffs or have a shot at winning a round, and therefore maybe play the older players, could actually be their thinking. That was the point.

        But you are right, the trade deadline activity by the team will tell us much more about their plan.

        • Jan 8, 2019 at 4:52 pm

          If you want to trade the older players to get something then you might have to play them. lol Sure, we can all disagree on whether the older players should play a few games less or a few minutes less, but in the end they have to be playing to get traded. I’m sure even Quinn realizes that McQuaid provides us with nothing more than a big physical body with poor mobility.

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:54 am

      Actually I think there are two issues here. Dolan has said he believes in a winning attitude – and whether or not one is going to make the playoffs, this entails putting the best team on the ice. So I think Quinn is, in his opinion, playing the best players. I don’t think playing the best players is actually a problem because the Rangers really have very few promising kids that are ready to play now (the others are better served playing on a competitive Hartford team) and so playing the best players is fully compatible with working guys like Chityl and Howden in to the lineup.

      The bigger issue though is Quinn’s player evaluation. McQuaid is a veteran defenseman that Boston did not think was good enough anymore. Why on earth is he playing ahead of DeAngelo?

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 12:40 pm

        Exactly my question. I fear it is because the coach feels he needs to win games more than he needs to develop DeAngelo, who he apparently does not trust. So he plays McQuaid instead of ADA, or Claesson sometimes, because he is good at banging in the crease and boxing, but is terribly slow and will never be any better than he is.

        ADA had some pretty good games when he played a string of them when McQuaid was out where he was aggressive offensively and feisty and not too lost defensively. He is quick enough to get back into coverage and can pass and shoot. He definitely is capable of the wrong decision or the boneheaded play, and I sometimes think that he isn’t that bright, but he has far more skill than McQuaid and is almost 10 years younger. I think that in the one game he suited up for after the most recent benchings where he was in for barely 14 minutes, ADA looked tentative and without confidence, like he did when AV was bouncing him around. I fear they are messing with the player’s psyche and failing to develop him for really no good reason. I am not too fond of their dealing with Claesson either.

        So, that is my rationale for taking pieces like McQuaid, Smith, Shatty (and forwards McLeod and sorry to say, Zuccarello) away from Quinn and making him play a predominently young and inexperienced team. Otherwise, I fear he is going to play it safer than he should on defense.

        • Jan 8, 2019 at 1:31 pm

          I am fine with addition by subtraction on defense, but McLeod really does not concern me. The forward collection on the 50 man roster is pretty dismal. Look at the 12 guys who are not in NY. Gropp, Leedahl, Ronning don’t even belong in Hartford and I don’t think Fontaine is that much better. Holland, Beleskey, Schneider are just other veterans like McLeod. And the kids: Andersson, Gettinger, Fogarty, Lettieri, Meskanen. We’ve seen and been unimpressed with four of them. Hard to believe Meskanen would set the world on fire if he is the fifth choice. It seems doubtful that Lettieri and Fogarty will ever be decent players, so why give them ice time. And the other three almost certainly benefit more from playing in Hartford. Indeed, the betting line I think is that Andersson is the only forward at Hartford with a better than even chance of being a top nine NHL forward.

          I have real hopes that Hartford will produce some defensemen, but we’ll get almost nothing up front.

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 9:09 am

    Please tell me what you expect the owner to say when the players and coach still are expected to play hard? Should he say “we suck and it will get much worse before it gets better”? What team wants an owner to say that? He needs to “say” one thing to reporters and “do something else” behind closed doors with the coaches and GM. I am sure the infamous “letter to the fans” last year was run past him before it was made public.

    Stop believing everything you read and have a little trust that the GM has a direction he wants to go in. Also remember it might not be the direction YOU want. He may want to tank. He may be satisfied with the 9th pick and trading away assets. He may want to resign Hayes. Whatever it is, I am guessing it is a 2019/20 and beyond focus rather than short term.

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 9:36 am

    I wouldn’t have expected a Team Owner to say anything different than what Dolan said. I agree with him, no team should ever purposely tank, that said they shouldn’t take any steps in order to make the team presently more competitive through the trading of prospects and/or draft choices. Current assets should be traded for prospects or draft choices before the deadline. Nothing that he said leads me to believe that won’t be the case.

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 9:38 am

    Reposting from yesterday:
    “Reading both the Post and Newsday articles left me with the impression that Dolan was really just trying to give Henrik a pat on the back after the 2 horrible outings. He said that the “team” thinks they can make the playoffs, but he also said they weren’t contenders for the Cup and that they are staying the course. He expressed confidence in Quinn and management and the rebuild while propping up his dejected goalie. He dismissed the idea of tanking as a bad concept. I actually didn’t have a problem with anything he said.”

    My thoughts this morning tend more toward the hate directed at Dolan, warranted or not. Dolan’s faith in Sather has perhaps been misplaced, but we can’t forget that this team was a powerhouse for several seasons, with 1 Cup final and a couple of conference appearances. 2015 was their best shot but they were decimated by injury. That is not Dolan or Sather’s fault. Should they have found a star or 2 to complement Hank? Of course. Did they make some ill-advised trades/signings in their quest for the Cup? You bet. But they are now attempting to do the right thing with the rebuild and their owner, on the heels of 3 atrocious losses, is standing behind them. That is ok by me…

    • Jan 8, 2019 at 10:08 am

      The Rangers’ best shot under Sather and Dolan was 2014, when they played in the Stanley Cup Finals. In 2015 they lost in the semis. Don’t see how winning 1 less playoff round equates to the Rangers’ best shot at a title.

      And as far as hate directed at Little Jimmy: he deserves every bit of it, I know people who worked for him years ago and they say Dolan’s even worse in the office than he’s been reported to be in the media. I believe them, and I believe Anucha Browne Sanders’ story of the toxic culture Dolan oversaw in the Knicks’ front offices too.

      People here are complimenting Dolan because he “stays away” from the Rangers in favor of setting acres of money on fire with the Knicks. Such staying away from the team has given us 19 years of Glen Sather’s front-office mediocrity. A five-year run of legitimate contention for the Cup was nice, but it ultimately won the Rangers nothing. That period represents only 25% of Sather’s tenure though, and that low a success percentage normally isn’t good enough for a lifetime appointment in sports.

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 10:25 am

        My comment about 2015 was directed at the strength of the team that year. They were better than the 2014 team imo. As for the Dolan hate, he is neither as “loathsome” or “dumb” as people are saying. He’s a rich guy who owns a couple of teams and he has a boorish manner. He’s made bad decisions (Phil Jackson anyone?) and he’s made good decisions (Rangers rebuild). I for one am glad he stood firmly behind his Coach, his franchise player, and management’s plan.

        • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:06 am

          Sorry to disagree so strongly with you here, Sittoo, as you’re a thoughtful poster in my book—but Dolan is an awful human being. He is a yeller in the office; a guy who cannot handle press scrutiny; he’s had multiple times in rehab; he’s feuded with Knicks franchise greats like Patrick Ewing and Charles Oakley; and worst of all he’s an executive who proudly backed a toxic and predatory culture in the Knicks’ front office during the Isiah Thomas years. His petty, crybaby nature has pervaded every aspect of the Knicks, to the point where he fired certain announcers because they were too honest about the product the Knicks were foisting onto their fans. In short, Dolan is not cool, not at all.

          • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:52 am

            MC, I simply don’t agree that he is the world’s worst person. I know him (a very little bit) through my daughter who was very close with his sons and spent a ton of time with them before moving to LA from NYC. He is a more complicated person than he gets credit for. Lots of extremes there. He did fight a very public battle with addiction which he won so using that against him is not really fair. Yes he has a black mark against him because he’s rich and he does and says a lot of dumb shit. He also does a lot of good stuff which is not reported. As far as his ownership of the Rangers, he handed the reins to Sather and has pretty much stayed out of the way unlike his handling of the Knicks (which has been awful). I think he’s been a pretty good owner of the franchise and his latest comments were nothing but supportive of the team and the coach. I’m not a Dolan “fan” but I do think he gets a bit of a raw deal sometimes and this is one of them.

            • Jan 8, 2019 at 12:10 pm

              That’s a fair statement, Sittoo—and your experience with him is closer to home than mine, I knew 2 garden employees that were fired by Dolan in the ticket-selling scandal in the late 90s. Obviously colored their perception of Dolan. And to be fair, there are many worse people in the world than Dolan, but I find him to be an offensive human being. Glad to hear he treats his children well, but his behavior in the whole Anucha Browne Sanders case was appalling nonetheless. He’s set a gold standard for mean-spirited incompetence in sports management with the Knicks, hockey’s parallel to Dolan would have to be Eugene Melnyk of the Senators.

              • Jan 8, 2019 at 12:20 pm

                I don’t disagree with much of that. I just think that there are usually 2 sides to a person and a story. He is a loving father and treated my daughter very kindly. She has some amazing stories from the playoff runs. That in no way excuses the bad stuff he has done especially on the Knicks side of the equation. Worse than Melnyk imo. But as far as the Rangers go he’s been ok.

      • Jan 8, 2019 at 10:50 am

        Enough with the Sather crap. Sather isn’t the GM nor is he the final arbiter of player personnel decision-making as far as I can tell. If someone has real evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. This is now the Jeff Gorton show, so by my count Sather gave us 5 really good years, 5 good years, 4 bad years and 1 lockout year.

        • Jan 8, 2019 at 11:14 am

          No, it’s not enough with the Sather crap. Gorton and Quinn look more like puppets every day now. This whole stunt yesterday with Dolan is a strong indicator that Sather’s inept hand is still on the tiller. Who in their right mind would talk playoffs with this team in the state it’s in right now? Oh that’s right—the credulous James Dolan would, after buying yet another line of BS from one of his team presidents.

          You sound more and more like a shill for Dolan, Sather, and MSG with each post lately.

          • Jan 8, 2019 at 5:04 pm

            I’m a shill for no one, but thank you for the personal insult … you have ZERO evidence that Sather is pulling the strings. You’re entitled to your opinion about Sather but not your own “facts”. Try to find a better way to support your agenda.

            • Jan 8, 2019 at 5:39 pm

              Here are some facts: in the time that Glen Sather has held his position with the Rangers, Jim Rutherford has won 3 Stanley Cups in 2 different cities. Lou Lamoriello won his last of his 3 Cups with New Jersey in that Sather time frame, and managed to reinvigorate two other NHL organizations. Stan Bowman has won 3 Cups, and then there’s GMs like Nashville’s David Poile, who keeps a steady stream of talent coming through the Predators’ organization and manages to stay creative under the cap while remaining a serious Cup contender.

              Sather’s had a lot of time to win a Cup, and hasn’t. Like coaches, GMs and presidents ordinarily lose their luster with time. You don’t think he’s meddling with Gorton; I think the half-hearted rebuild has Sather’s fingerprints all over it. And he’s had his chance with this team, it’s time for him to give Gorton the space necessary to rebuild this team. Sather as a Ranger executive has been up and down; too bad the team is in as poor shape now as it was in 2000 when he took over.

              • Jan 9, 2019 at 10:31 am

                Is that why the Predators have a pretty abysmal record in the playoffs? From the 1st lockout through the 2016/17 season they played in 15 playoff series, the Rangers played in 22 … BUT this isn’t even the issue here, like I said you can harbor any opinion you want about Sather’s record here since it was MIXED. The issue here is who has control of the club and for that you have no evidence to back up a claim that Sather is the puppet master.

              • Jan 9, 2019 at 11:19 am

                McQuaid, McLeod, the proposed pointless Hayes extension, the mishandling of Andersson—all these moves bear the hallmark of a GM/prez who signed shot goons like Derek Boogaard and Donald Brashear, handed out ridiculous no-movement clauses like candy to aging defenders like Staal and Girardi, and bungled the early contract years of players like Chris Kreider and Michael Del Zotto. Actually, they mirror earlier Sather moves almost exactly.

                Learn your team’s history and stop touting front-office propaganda.

              • Jan 9, 2019 at 2:03 pm

                Actually you’re the one that needs to learn his Rangers’ history. Girardi got his extension in February 2014, Staal in January of 2015. Gorton was named GM on July 1st, 2015. The bungled early contract years of Kreider and DZ were also both managed under Sather, not Gorton. The possible Hayes extension is easily debatable — purely a matter of opinion — it could hardly be described as “pointless”. Besides, the most noise about an extension has come from writers and fans, we’ve heard/seen very little from the FO. Lastly the mishandling of Andersson — I’m not even sure what you mean by that, at least as it might refer to Sather controlling Gorton. If we’re talking about ice time/demotion to the AHL then look no further than the coach. That’s on DQ, no one else.

                If all you have to prove this ridiculous assertion that Sather is puppetering Gorton is the fact he went out and got McQuaid and McLeod, then you’re on extremely shaky ground. STOP touting hyberbolic biased fan propoganda! lol

              • Jan 9, 2019 at 3:32 pm

                Read what I wrote—the mishandling of Kreider and Del Zotto are earlier versions of the same mistake made with Andersson. As are acquisitions like McLeod and McQuaid, especially underscored by the fact that Gorton has contradictorily touted the Rangers’ need to get younger and faster.

                Who, I wonder, might have the power to override such desires from the GM? Who possibly could do that? Two people—Sather or Dolan, and Dolan doesn’t care about hockey.

              • Jan 10, 2019 at 11:38 am

                It’s a little early to be talking about Andersson being mishandled considering he just turned 20 — and I don’t see the comparison to Kreider to be honest. Kreids got to spend years at BC before turning pro. It’s more like DZ who was rushed. In any event we don’t know the result yet and if anyone is to blame it’s DQ, not JG. JG doesn’t dole out a roster spot to anyone nor does he give out ice time. It’s too early to override and buck the coach.

  • Jan 8, 2019 at 5:16 pm

    Is this article joke?

    • Jan 9, 2019 at 10:32 am

      Slow news day.

    • Jan 9, 2019 at 3:12 pm

      I am not ready to bury Gorton just yet…..The upcoming trading deadline and the off-season moves will be key for Gorton.

  • Jan 9, 2019 at 3:10 pm

    Many fans are concerned about the slow progress being made by some of our prospects in Hartford…..I will tell u that my concerns would be…. if Kratsov, Igor the Goalie and K’Andre turn out ot be busts.. that would make me really sick because the reports on all three players are very good with Igor being the next Hank….Hopefully….My sources tell me he is the real deal…

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