Thoughts following Rangers/Devils

Another preseason, another game against the Devils. It seems like the Rangers are only allowed to play the Devils, Islanders, and Flyers in the preseason. I guess that’s a good thing, since they don’t have to travel far. Probably why they do it that way, but would it kill you to get some variety?

The Rangers were definitely the better team in this one. Henrik Lundqvist was strong. The defense was near suffocating, save for a few mishaps here and there. And this was against some of the better players on the Devils. It’s not going to be consistently like this, but if this is what the defense is going to trend to, then I’m all for it.

  • Think what you want about Kevin Hayes, but the guy can pass. In a perfect world, he’s still with the team beyond this season. I hope I’m wrong that his one-year deal means he’s gone. I really like him on this team. He’s so creative and sneaky good.
  • From what I saw (heard?), there was a lot of chatter on the ice. It’s obviously impossible for me to tell who it was, but I did notice it a lot when the Rangers were defending a dump and chase, which leads me to believe it was the Rangers chatting it up. I can’t remember the last time I heard them actually talking to each other on the ice.
  • One thing I noticed on the powerplay is the Rangers were trying to run a back-door rebound play. That’s where the shooter on the strong side puts the puck on net low and hard while the weak side winger creeps in for a rebound. It almost worked in the first period.
  • It’s good to see a Brendan Smith that isn’t totally beaten, defeated, and is willing to put in the effort. Guy almost ended his own career last year. He seems to be rejuvenated and will hold a roster spot. That’s good for him and the Rangers.
  • Boy do I hate useless fights. By that I mean staged fights and fights like the Eric Gryba/Matt Beleskey fight that comes after a clean hit. Stupid fight, and then Beleskey hurt his shoulder. I have no problem with fights born from heat of the moment or dirty hits. But that? That was stupid.
  • People are going to crucify Marc Staal for the first Devils goal, but Pavel Buchnevich didn’t do him any favors with that pass. Not the best idea.
  • Frederik Claesson wants to make this team. He’s been quietly solid.
  • Another defenseman making his case is Neal Pionk. Boy did he have a strong game. It goes beyond the pair of assists. He read plays well, made good, crisp passes, and was solid with his positioning. Exactly what you want from your defensemen.
  • Based on the above point, I think the Rangers will carry eight defensemen to start the season. Both Pionk and Tony DeAngelo have earned their spots.
  • Speed is very hard to defend, that’s what set up Chris Kreider’s goal. Good passes from DeAngelo and Mika Zibanejad made the play as well. But don’t discount Vinny Lettieri’s presence on the strong side at the blue line. He drew attention and opened up more space for the streaking Kreider to get open.
  • Lettieri sure does want to make this team. What a game by him.

The broadcast said the Rangers won’t be making any cuts until after the back-to-back to close out the preseason. So it might be a little slow until Thursday night.

"Thoughts following Rangers/Devils", 5 out of 5 based on 12 ratings.

65 thoughts on “Thoughts following Rangers/Devils

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 6:26 am

    1) The team D is much better so far in comparison to last year, is anyone SHOCKED by this?

    2) While Hank was good, he was moving around too much for my liking. He seemed like he was overreacting to plays on the ice. That makes for bad goaltending during the real games. He needs to adjust before the season starts IMO.

    3) DeAngelo continues to make a statement.

    4) While it may not be Staal’s fault on the first Devils’ goal (I agree BTW), it’s also another example of his inability to recover under those situations, which is really the problem with any D man that can no longer keep up with the pace and/or overall speed of play. Even tight plays like that are played with the quickness that Marc does not have. I do not think his regular spot in the lineup is a given.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:04 am

      I didn’t manage to see the entire game last night, but I did see about 3/4 of it. It seemed to me that Staal was having a tough game. If he is going to be filling a regular slot on defense then I hope what I believe I saw last night was an abberation.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:06 am

        Not an aberration my friend, unless aberrations last 4 years.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:46 am

          So true. Staal is a shell of what he once was, and is now an AHL level player. He simply cannot stickhandle or pass since his eye injury. Staal should be this team’s 7th or 8th dman, but the sheer expense of his contract will buy him at least 40-50 games in the starting lineup (again).

          • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:37 pm

            Yeah, we all feel bad because Staal is a victim of injuries now question. But $5.7M per will help ease the pain.

            Quite honestly, these players hang for dear life to keep their salaries intact but it’s up to the coaches to not play them, in spite of their high cap hits.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:50 am

        I think most of us knew that the Staal and Girardi contracts were abysmal……but these were Sather’s boys….no one was going to prevent Sather from signing those two players…..I know a few Ranger fans who are so angry at the current management and some of there moves….really?…….the difference between past teNse and now is that while we haven’t landed a Crosby type ready now player…we have quietly gone from 28 worst prospect org to 9th best in a short period of time…Expect more vets to be moved this year with the continued stockpiling of picks and prospects…….IMO Target Date for the uprising will be 2020-21… patient Ranger loyalists…….

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:20 am

      If this is the type of defense and pressure we can expect all season Im looking forward to it. We may not win many, but it will be 100x more fun than the luckluster BS we have had the last 2 seasons. This group really seems to have taken liking to the new style of play.

      Love the fact Hank went over to ask for more game time…”Coach, Im used to 14 shots a period, you cant take me out yet!!!”

      Sneaky guess (My Cousin) Vinni makes the roster…seems like the exact type of player Quinn wants…Active Relentless and speed. Looked good with Lias tonight as well. Add Vesey or Blesky to that 4th line and you have guys that wont back away to get to a puck.

      Ashame we have to have Staal all season … Not that it is great by any means but having a LD line of Skjei, Smith, Claesson would be just fine

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:02 am

        Compound that with buying out Girardi and thats 9 mil in used up cap space…With all the rebuilding we are still in the top 10 of Salary Caps right now

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:14 am

          Its only the start of the rebuild, Town.

          If we were ready to compete Staal would be bought out but there is no use wasting future cap space.

          + the cap for many teams is close together. If we did not take on Belesky for next 2 years and Bring McQuaid in we would be bottom 10 in the league.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:39 pm

        100% my friend. I see a lot of close game losses this year but better structure and D. Yo can see already that their gap control is much better than any time in the last couple of years.

        A trade is needed to fix the glut of players at certain positions, for sure.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:44 am

      Buchnevich IMO was the worst Ranger on the ice and will probably get an interview with Quinn Disciplinary school of focus……..I like what I saw last night from most of the team…….Tony D will thrive under Quinn and could turn out to be a really good D man….

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 2:59 pm

        Buch was very good in his first 2 games but agree he did not play well last night. We’ll see what happens when there set the lines.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:41 pm

        Not liking Buch so far? hmmm…

        Tony D is what he is, an offensive D man that will cough up the puck. Hopefully the good will outweigh the bad. Which is what NHL D men are these days aren’t they?

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:15 am

      Agree Hank is still moving too much but he said as much in the postgame. He definitely reeled it in from the first start where he was like a spinning top. Not too worried about him getting back to basics in a hurry. The D looked much better and more cohesive as a 5 man unit. If they can play like that during the season Hank is going to be a happy guy.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:44 pm

        I agree about Hank pal. Even on shots that didn’t make the net, he seemed to over react to the shot, taking him out of position.

        The Rangers kept the Devs at bay in the first 30 minutes so Hank did not get burned. But that will not be the case on a regular basis. He needs to keep his position “quiet” in his movements. Georgiev does that very well for a young goalie.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:21 am

    Mazanec, OMG is this guy poor!!!!!!!!!

    Hall looked good for the Devils, while Staal is showing his lack of speed already.

    This Ranger team may not make the PO’s, but they will be fighting in every game, and will be exciting to watch!

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:07 am

      Walt makes an appearance!!

      Hope all is well my friend.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:10 am


        Good morning to you, and yes all has been well so far. Too many distractions with my wife’s health to post, but this too will change for the better I hope……. Take care!

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:12 am

          OMG, thoughts and prayers my friend, give our best to your wife and speedy recovery.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:15 am

          Walt I too hope that she has a speedy and complete recovery.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:49 am

          hope your wife is better soon Walt!

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:42 am

          My prayers for your wife Walt….Semper Fi

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 12:50 pm

          Wishing good thoughts for your wife’s health, speedy recovery.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 2:47 pm

          Thanks to all for your good wishes, we could use them. Maria has CLL, and completed her second round of chemo. If one has to have a form of leukemia, this is the least dangerous one to have. Again, thanks to all my friends who care!!!

          • Sep 25, 2018 at 3:18 pm

            Sending well wishes to you and your family.

            • Sep 25, 2018 at 4:27 pm

              To Walt,

              Yeah I know we don’t always see eye to eye when it comes to hockey but god bless to you and your loved ones.

          • Sep 25, 2018 at 5:04 pm

            Sending prayers your way Walt, we will be praying for her Sunday.

          • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:06 pm

            My prayers Buddy……
            I have had a love suffer from the same disease. I know first hand what you and your wife are going through. Positive thought 100% of the time.

            • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:12 pm

              That should have said “loved one”.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:21 am

    The Post had an online story today on Lundqvist and couldn’t even get the photo correct. It was the back ups goalie photo! Lol!

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:00 am

    Well my dark horses of Lettieri and Pionk look to become apart of the every game night roster. Lettieri in particular should replace Vesey and Pionk should be in the top 4 somewhere.

    I’m really glad to see Quinn use Hayes in the high slot on the PP. I think he’s the perfect bump man to clean up any garbage, set double screens and to deflect pucks in.

    Beleskey was my other dark horse, a bummer that he’s now out with a injury. He’s your prototype for a Ducks/Kings player, stocky, can cycle, find pockets to shoot or pass to and plays with a edge.

    Hey Dave, I’m happy to see you get with the program about Hayes.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:11 am

      Love your persistence bro.

      But here’s the simple fact, you need at least some elite talent on a hockey team to win and the Rangers do not have that. They have too many “good” players, not elite players.

      Hayes is a good player but he’s not a game changer like Panarin. Nor will Kevin prove to be the best talent on the team, Zib is that now and Chytill will be that down the road, maybe even this year. You can see Chytil’s talent, he just needs to keep his head up so he won’t get killed out on the ice.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:23 am

        Zib is too much of an injury risk to be a game changer. I agree with you on Chytl, he’s going to be a good player for the Rangers

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:50 pm

          Don’t disagree about Zib, but he’s locked in and has better talent than Hayes.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 11:12 am

        Not sure why you have a disteaste for Hayes so much, Tony.

        Hayes finished the season with 3 less points than Ziba, despite:
        1/2 the PP time Ziba received.
        2x the PK time.
        Ziba also had the benefit of playing with far better offensive wingers 5v5, his top 4 line combos were KZB (26.5%), Nash & Zucc (14.5%), Fast & CK (13%), Nash & Buch (9.5%). Hayes on the other hand had different players on his wings nightly, with the most consistent combo was with Zucc and Nash at 9.5%.

        You dont think that if Hayes was afforded the same offensive opportunities that he would exceed what Zib has been able to produce?

        You are correct that we dont have ELITE players, and adding Panarin would be great, but we need to move away from this line designation and focus on building the best four lines that can attack and beat down oppoentns that cant match all of our depth.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:52 pm

          No distaste for Hayes pal, I actually like him a lot but:

          Hayes at $6M+


          Panarin at $9M

          I take Panarin and giving Hayes that contract probably keeps the Rangers from getting Panarin. It’s about cap space, that’s all.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 11:52 am

        Chytil will get killed at least twice this season. That’s sad given fact but at the same time he should be able to work against lesser talent like against 3rd pair names. That’s all his game is right now, a 3c with PP to get him some easy buckets. Nobody will know if he’s top 6 material or not until the sample size comes in play by the mid way point. You can ignore a Hayes resigning by nex January all you want. It’ll be that’s all she wrote for Zib after that but as of now that’s definitely a strong option that both JG and Quinn expressed that they would like to see.

        That’s where I don’t agree with your lock and loaded opinion with how much more Zib>Hayes. If you want to state the obvious about how one player touched north of 50 points as a career high ( 51 points lol)] in a offensive role. Than Zib can have that dap, it still doesn’t express how much better he is to Hayes. As of today, Zib is just a 40 point player and your cookie cutter of him being a 50 ( ish) player is heavily exaggerated. The difference between the two is that Hayes had to be a a shutdown 3c since day 1 with next to no PP minutes and ended up learning that on the fly to put up similar points as him. He took that role to be a great 5v5 player and lead the league in shorthanded goals and points. Meanwhile Zib is a top 10 draft pick who you still couldn’t compare many top 6 center’s to. When you line him up against a high end 3c than it starts to makes where Zib’s career is so far.

        He had two years in a row to prove his worth in Ottawa with 80 and 82 game season and not much came out of it. Two extra overall points as a career high and 1 extra goal as another career high, in polar opposite roles to Hayes, sorry bro but that’s not impressive. Zib’s slick moves are as shiny and polished as ADA stick work to Skjei’s handling of the puck.

        I much rather see Panarin in replace of Zib’s on the PP with Buch on the other side and Hayes down low. I also would like Panarin to play with the Rangers top 50 5v5 center than Zib who hasn’t been consistent enough in that department. The Hayes vs Zib is coming, no matter what anyone likes unless Chytil craps the bed.

        Btw the huge knock on Hayes was that he should have gone the Jr route and transfer as a center by then. He would have broke into the league as a better top 10 draft pick at a younger age. Dan Boyle made a comment about that and Johnny hockey as well.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:56 pm

          But see this has nothing to do with Zib over Hayes other than for the fact that Zib’s contract is locked in and Hayes next contract would keep the Rangers from spending on FAs.

          I want the cap space that would go to Hayes to other FAs that will make the Rangers a better team. Now if you tell me the Rangers shed enough contracts to fit Panarin, another FA D man, and Hayes, then I’m fine with it. But I don’t know that they can. Guys like Spooner and Names would have to be traded, along with Zuc.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:49 pm

        Chytl reminds me of a young Malkin. A train. Kid is big has vanilla hands and can’t be knocked over. Gonna be fun watching this kid grow up

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 7:58 pm

          I agree Chris, you can see Chytil’s talent and the way he handles the puck and himself.

          He just needs to protect himself or we won’t see the next level.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:57 am

      Lettieri won’t replace Vesey. He may make the lineup (although I still am not sure I see it), but it won’t be in Jimmy’s spot. The Belesky fight was silly. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes – the injury coupled with an uncharacteristically strong night from McLeod may not bode well for Belesky. While I think Belesky brings more to the table overall for sure, that may come down to a personality/experience preference by Quinn. Kevin Hayes is very good at hockey, he’s not too old to see this rebuild through, and I still cannot shake the suspicion that we will regret it if he is moved for anything less than a mid-or-higher first rounder. I’m not gonna say he is the best overall talent on the team, but I definitely think he has the best hands on the team. Hopefully he is consistently put in a position to use them for more offensive purposes under Quinn. Sticky situation, though. His price only goes up from last year if he does thrive, and I think he will if deployed correctly. Not saying he becomes a PPG+ player or anything, but I also personally think he’s a 60 point player just waiting to happen. That’s why I cringed when I saw the one year deal in the news feed.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 12:36 pm

        I never liked to discussed who had the best pair of hands on a hockey team unless his name was like P Kane. However like Valiquette said, the three best passers are Zucc, Hayes and Buch.

        You could really see the resemblance of how Johnny hockey influenced on him, when he’s catching a puck at the blue line. It’s always with one hand and perfect timing to not go offsides. What Hayes has over the other forwards on this team are those sticky hands, meaning if a puck was within vicinity to him, than you have to deal with his wingspan and size to shield the puck. It’s the bread and butter to his 200 ft game without having to spend energy to finish checks or tie people to the boards. Zib is 50/50 in the NZ with puck battles but than you have someone like Chytil who already has that sticky puck to him. When he’s in full possession with the puck, he can make alot of moves at full stride, which is opposite to a speedster like Kreider.

        1. He’ll have to still see a brute of DZ draws against the better lines. More 5v5 minutes could counter some of those draws to be start in the OZ.

        2. How could he not see alot of shutdown minutes? Zib’s 10 goals and lack of 5v5 production isn’t something that would give Quinn confidence. Chytil will most likely be the 3c and so far his 200 ft game screams give me sheltered minutes. Be prepared for a vet 4c signing soon.

        3. Hell yes to Hayes being a 60 point player. He already dominates the 1st or 2nd half of the season. A fullconsistent should bring him up to 55-59 points. A regular PP role and being a ace as a shorthanded threat again could make him a mid to high 60 point player. More 5v5 minutes with top 6 talent should do him well.

        Lettieri could very well push Vesey off this team in the near future. Btw Hayes would have been signed by now but deservingly so his camp didn’t want to sign after his 25 goal season. Getting to that point told me that Hayes had future as a long term piece so I didn’t sweat about it. JG openly admitted in his talk about how he still wanted to sign him long term and that he has the bank to do it and “move on” gave me a confident feel about this whole extension thing. As Quinn said, it’s a prove it deal.

        • Sep 25, 2018 at 5:39 pm

          To clarify one topic just a little more, I am not super pro-Vesey. I don’t actually think Vesey will for some reason break out under Quinn either, because I don’t see how AV really held Vesey back much (although, I’d be happy to be wrong about this aspect; I wish Vesey no ill). I just think that Vesey has already shown enough that he wouldn’t necessarily lose his spot to Vinny any time soon. However, if a nice trade return hits the table for Vesey, then Vinny could be someone they consider as a potential replacement for that role on the team, perhaps. To me, Vesey’s reputation has long outweighed his performance, and I’d rather see him stapled to a 3rd line role than moved up very often. Lettieri right now I still see as more of a 4th liner, in his development stage.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:12 am

    Seems like the Devils allowed us entry into the zone and then collapsed on us. This is where you need guys who can get along the boards and fight for the puck. Didn’t see the whole game, but thought Gettinger could use his size a little more, although he showed good hands on his goal.

    Hank was better. Pionk played well. I think Quinn needs to cut another 6 players today.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:25 am

    The defense was definitely talking to each other which is a good sign,

    Pionk puck moving skills were on display last night. He has to be on the opening day roster. I thought Smith and ADA also had strong games as well. Claeson did nothing to hurt himself. Was it me or did Skjei not play last night? lol

    Management needs to find a way to have Letteri on the roster as well. His shoot first mentality is needed as is a player that can get underneath an opponent’s skin. Not sure what the forward numbers look like but I presume Belesky injury gives Letteri a much better chance. Just hope he gets ice time if the do keep him. Zib looks faster and grittier this year. The latter being from our new coaching mentality. Anderson was pretty quiet. Fogarty and his line actually played well but I can’t see any of them on the opening day roster. If McQuaid is in the lineup I see no need for McLeod.

    My biggest disappointment last night was my boy Buchnevich. The give away and lack of awareness on Hall’s goal made for a bad bad night defensively for him. (Watch the replay as he needs to see these guys coming when every other player is clearly being covered by other Rangers.)

    There will be a lot of 1 goal games this year.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:02 am

      Yes after having some terrific games Buchnevich was really off last night. Probably just an off night, but he needs to bring real effort to every game at the NHL level.

      • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:46 am

        somewhat disagree on Buch last night. He was coming back and playing defense, had a couple decent bodychecks in the D-zone, a couple nice passes in the O-zone. Yep, bonehead pass to Staal, but overall looked like he was told to work on his defense.

        not a great game but so so to me

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 4:53 pm

      I’m not worried about Buch having off nights here and there. I feel like demanding defensive perfection from him is akin to expecting a Corvette to be great at pulling tree stumps out of the ground. Not what it is built for, but it will more than make up for it in other areas.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:42 am

    I thought McLeod spent half his time on ice looking for a fight. I thought he could have been called for a couple of penalties in the first period after the whistle had blown, He finally got his fight in the third period. If he makes this team, he’ll be a detriment more than an asset.

    The rest of the team played aggressively and took the body. No need for a goon.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 9:52 am

      McLeod signing was a stop gap signing….but agree the guy doesn’t belong on the team…..

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:36 am

    You bring up some very good points. As a general thought I think the D will be better because we will play more of a possession game than how we played under AV. We have out shot our opponents 3 out of 4 games so far, which was definitely not the norm last year. It’s pre season, but I really think process is going to add intangible value for this team.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    I agree that the Rangers may start with eight defensemen, as they did last year, but I believe that it will gain be a temporary situation – 10-20 games tops. At some point they will go down to seven. You just don’t want two guys in the press box night after night, especially since a number will play every game.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    Rangers want to get tougher quick…they should claim Michael McCarron..former 1st round pick….big boy…would be an upgrade over Mcleod or Beleskey

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Certainly a lot of promising signs last night.

    I disagree with the people coming down on Buch for his play last night. Sure, he didn’t have quite as strong a game as he did in the first few exhibition games, but he was fine last night — and yes, I blame Staal for letting Hall outwork him in the corner. He flubbed the puck coming from Buch when he should have just quickly moved it along the boards behind the net. Buch could have easily come away from this game with 2 or 3 assists, he was consistently setting up linemates.

    The play of ADA, Lettieri and to a lesser extent Gettinger and Fogarty was promising (although I don’t think Fogarty could ever amount to anything more than a career AHLer and emergency call up for the 4th line. I think the former pair have made their case and should start the season in NY.

    Would like to see Quinn run a practice where all they do is work on one timers — compared to other teams we’re always taking less one timers. Aside from Zibby and Buch, no one seems to look for that quick instinctual shot that catches defenses and goalies by surprise.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Lettieri was very visible and involved last night, I thought his game was really good. Sort of reminded me of Brad Marchand a little. Now, no one will mistaken him for Marchand but, give me his hustle, his gritty toughness, and 10 – 15 goals and he’s a perfect 4th line winger on this team.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    We got some weak play in the net in the 3rd period!

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    I do think we make the mistake of judging all players by the same standard when in fact the objectives are completely different. Guys like Hank, Zuc, Staal, Zib, Skjei are just trying to get their rhythm and to learn the systems that Quinn is putting in place. These are just somewhat meaningless exhibition games. On the other hand, somebody like Lettieri is going all out to impress. Of course, he is likely to outshine some vets. I don’t want to disregard his performance, but one needs to view it in perspective.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    It would seem that the Rangers have some difficult decisions to make regarding defensemen.

    Pionk has played very strong gemes in the last two pre-season games. Tony DeAngelo has played well in all of the pre-season games. The Rangers obviously have Skjei, Shatty, Smith and McQuaid slotted in to make the team. Claesson has played well too.

    The rub is that Marc Staal has a huge contract and so he will be retained, and DeAngelo and Claesson cannot be sent to Hartford without clearing waivers. So what do the Rangers do? Sending Pionk to Hartford might be the only present alternative unless they trade away someone or waive DeAngelo or Claesson.

    I’d hate to see Pionk sent to the AHL. I think he is ready. I think DeAngelo looks ready too. Both would seem to have good value and upsides in the long run. Claesson might be a sleeper acquisition. He is only 25 and I have liked his play thus far.

    I doubt that Marc Staal gets bought out. So, it might be that Pionk gets sent to Hartford, or that DeAngelo or Claesson get waived, I guess depending on which player the Rangers either think they can afford to lose or think will pass through without getting grabbed. Hard choices!

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:01 pm

      If Pionk is sent down only because he’s the only one that does not have to clear waivers, then shame on Gorton.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Send Stall to the farm and bury him

    Claesson was solid and made a couple saves… play him

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Can Staal be sent to Hartford? It’s not like anyone would claim him. If they ever called him back up a team could claim him at half price but even that seems really unlikely.

    • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:26 pm

      Unfortunately Staal cannot be sent down, only traded with his permission or benched.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 8:19 pm

    Also, hoping Grttinger develops into a quality bottom six forward. Will be tracking his season in Hartford.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:25 pm

    just curious is that a contract stipulation on staal richter? Or is that just something you are pulling out of your @$$? Cause I am pretty sure any player can get sent to Hartford as long as they clear waivers. The thing is he wouldn’t clear waivers and the front office knows that better than any of us.

    Just cause the man is making first tier money playing 3rd tier minutes doesn’t make it his fault.

    Should the FO trade him for a prospect and eat half his salary? No doubt. But obviously they haven’t gotten the right offer otherwise I assume it would have happened already.

    I will phrase it another way…think or do some stat research…and figure out what players are similar to Staal. And look at what they are making in the nhl playing 75 + games a season.

    Staal was a plus 11 last year on a team that was an absolute horror show on defense. That plus 11 ranked him 14th in the nhl among left handed defensemen with 70 plus games. Yeah he only scored 8 points all season but that is not what he is at this point or ever for that matter. He is a stay at home defender. Yandle scored 56 points last year and was a plus 7 for the season. Let that sink in.

    Look is he overpaid …ofcourse he is. But is he as horrible as this board makes him? Not even close. If he was they would have bought him out by now or traded him for a draft pick or prospect.

    I personally don’t think this defense is going to be that bad. I think the weakest link on this team is our center depth. And til Andersson and Chytil fill in those gaps …the rangers are going to suck. Just that simple. Remind me again who our 3rd and 4th line centers are? Cause at this present time we still have no clue. So for the 2nd season in a row we are entering the season with huge question marks at center. And that just isn’t a winning formula. Refer to last season for proof on last statement.

  • Sep 25, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    We have too many players. Gilmour and O’Gara have little chance to make it on the Rangers. Send McLeod to the minors too. A bunch of guys could use the AHL for a year. We may need to start with 8 defenseman due to waivers and Pionk has earned a spot. In my opinion, Staal should only get in about 40 games which may actually make him better. I see a trade coming soon. I think we will have a much better team that will grow together.

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