Quick hits on the Traverse City roster

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The Rangers released the Traverse City roster yesterday, and with that comes the unofficial start of hockey season. The Traverse City Tournament is the first bit of hockey we get, but unfortunately it isn’t televised (update: this will be streamed on the FOX Sports Go app). The tournament precedes the preseason, so it’s our first look at some of the kids that may compete for a roster spot. Some thoughts:

1. The roster this year is light years ahead of last year’s. There is significantly more talent up front and on the blue line. That should lead to a potential stronger showing this year. However the guys in goal (Chris Nell, Jeremy Brodeur) aren’t Alex Georgiev.

2. I am particularly excited to see, or read, how Lias Andersson and Filip Chytil do. They are the two on the roster expected to make the Rangers squad in October. This is their first step in impressing management and the coaching staff to ensure they land in New York.

3. Ty Ronning could be a sleeper here. I expect him to start the year in Hartford, but I also expect him to have a good showing in Traverse City. I wonder if we see him paired with one of Andersson or Chytil. The thought of that, and potentially the other center paired with Tim Gettinger, gets me giddy.

4. All eyes are going to be on Libor Hajek and Ryan Lindgren on the blue line. I fear both of they are going to get derailed by the hype machine, but both are expected to look solid in this tournament. They are likely playing this year in the AHL as well, but this is the first look we are going to get at them.

5. Brett Howden is a guy that could sneak onto the Rangers roster as a bottom six center. That all begins at Traverse City, but right now he’s slated to be the 3C (Andersson/Chytil are 1A/1B). I think most of the sleeping on Howden is because of Andersson and Chytil, but he’s another first round pick. I wonder who he gets on his line.

6. I find it funny that Brodeur’s kid is on the roster. Wonder if Marty will be in the stands?

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36 thoughts on “Quick hits on the Traverse City roster

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 9:22 am

    I bet Marty could throw on the equipment still and show them how its done!

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 10:43 am

      Are you a Ranger fan?

      • Aug 28, 2018 at 11:19 am

        Yes he is.

        Also an actual hockey fan

        • Aug 28, 2018 at 12:36 pm

          Ha, thanks Ray.

          Yes, it goes without saying that Martin Brodeur was a great goal tender. It was infuriating for me as a Ranger fan to watch the sonofagun stuff our guys time after time. But that doesn’t mean I didn’t respect his talents.

          It is a great game, and for me, rooting for my team, and watching great players no matter who they play for is what it is all about.

          • Aug 28, 2018 at 2:58 pm

            Brodeur was good, he was also massively overrated.

            Some think he’s one of the best ever, frankly, he doesn’t even crack my personal top 4 for goalies I’ve been lucky enough to watch.


            Maybe Brodeur sits right below that group? But he definitely is a cut below those 4. Chris Osgood has a boatload of rings, that doesn’t make him an all time great or even an all time very good, for that matter.

            • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:20 pm

              Brodeur GAA 2.24 SV% .912 1266 games

              Lundqvist GAA 2.37 SV% .919 805 games

              Hasek GAA 2.20 SV% .922 735 games

              The career stats show that you are correct Chris, Hank and Hasek have superior SV% at least. Brodeur played forever, probably a little too long.

              • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:27 pm

                Have to say, Hasek was the goalie that always made my jaw drop. He made the impossible save almost look commonplace.

                All credit to Brodeur, but he played within a system that protected him — like John VBK when he was in Florida. That said, he sure did find a way often enough to bail out the Devils when the system broke down …

              • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:40 pm

                Marty also had one of the best defenses in front of him, also the best defensive player of his time in Scott Stevens.

              • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:43 pm

                Not to mention Fat Marty had a loaded team in front of him…4 monster defenseman and a team that played the NZT that suffocated opponents

              • Aug 28, 2018 at 5:03 pm

                These numbers are a bit misleading. Save percentages change over time. In 1992-1993, Hasek had a save percentage of .896 and he was above average. Today that would be awful. His .915 in 2001-2002 was still above average.

                Using GSAA based on save percentage (which corrects for time frame) has Hasek saving 389 goals over 14 years. Brodeur saved 220 over 17 years, but then lost 39 his last four seasons. Hank has saved 184 goals in 13 seasons (less than 30 in the last five).

                My numbers are slightly off as I dropped decimals before I added.


                Incidentally, Vanbiesbrouck comes in at 207 for 13 years, then -26 for his last five years. But save percentages were low, GAAs were high and almost no tenders made the HOF from his era.

                And Chris Osgood was a career minus.

                And Hasek was truly amazing.

            • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:28 pm

              Terry Sawchuk and Glen Hall are in the top 3

              • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:42 pm

                Fair enough, I’m only 39 so I didn’t get to see them play. My top 4 was the top 4 I’ve been lucky enough to watch regularly.

              • Aug 29, 2018 at 12:54 pm

                See this is where I have trouble with rating all time goalies. Aside from Hasek #1 (dominance over the league and his peers), Roy #2 (best playoff goalie), I’m not sure what to do after that.
                How do you rate Plante, Sawchuk and Hall against Tretiak?
                How do you compare across era’s with wildly different scoring rates?

          • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:50 pm

            1996 WC of Hockey and the way Mike Richter single handedly won that Tournament was supreme goal tending

        • Aug 28, 2018 at 12:40 pm

          Ha, thanks Ray!

          It goes without saying that Martin Brodeur was a great goalie. For me as a Rangers fan it was infuriating to watch him stuff our players time after time, but I always respected his skills.

          It is a great game and a privilege to watch great players, even when they are playing against my team.

          • Aug 28, 2018 at 1:27 pm

            Sorry, a network glitch made me think the post had not gone through.

            • Aug 28, 2018 at 2:01 pm

              I hear ya but lets swap Marty and Richter and see what happens

        • Aug 28, 2018 at 2:24 pm

          How do you mock a NYR fan for asking that? Lol that was the most Ranger like reply by TR.

          Philly fans took a week or so to open up to Talbot after he jumped ship from Pitts.

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 9:34 am

    Looks to me like this is a “show us what you can do” roster. Many of these kids should think they are already NHL ready. The guys who came over in trades want to make a good impression on NYR management. I can see 8 of these guys on the roster by the end of next year. The prospect pool has not been this deep in a long time.

    We may not win, but I want to see some outstanding performances. I think it is somewhat risky to have both Chytil and Andersson on the roster. I look for them to be protected by some of the other guys and coaches, as they have to be considered nearly a shoo-in to make the big club.

    Would be nice to see the guys who came over in trades to really shine.

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 9:59 am

    Howden to me is the guy to watch here. I think he can make the team this year. He may start in Hartford, but he will be a Ranger one day in the near future. I would actually like to see Ronning and Gettinger play with Howden. The rooster looks a lot better than last years, that’s for sure.

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 10:35 am

    Is there any way for us to watch these games besides going to Traverse City?

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:42 pm

      Games will be on Fox Sports go and related apps/websites.

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 11:08 am

    Traverse City Schedule
    Sept. 7th NYR vs Dallas 7:00 pm
    Sept. 8th NYR vs Minn 6:30 pm
    Sept. 10th NYR vs Detroit 4:00 pm
    Sept. 11th Playoffs

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 11:46 am

    i think the fact that nyr just took 3 first round picks and now have seven hundred d men takes a bit of the hype pressure off hajek and lindgren. Up to them to show where they belong playing.

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 2:38 pm

      Hajek showed he wasn’t faded by the bright lights and hype during his interview between periods at MSG. He looked like he’s ready to jump on the ice right then.
      ADA, Smith and that ex Sens player are all his competion at camp this summer. His Junior coach certainly thought that he’s ready to compete right now. JG told the media that they would keep loosening the rope if he’s ready for the NHL. If Quinn could translate his developing skills than the D should be filthy by the Feburary/March. He should be able to hand pick his D with the stock given to him and JG could trade or keep the rest to make a playoff bound AHL team.

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 2:42 pm

      I think we know where they will start. While the long term picture at defense is fluid, the short term is not. The Rangers are planning on keeping Shattenkirk, Staal, Skjei and Smith on the roster. Four more defensemen are subject to waivers and I don’t see the Rangers risking losing either DeAngelo or Claesson. That leaves one spot which almost certainly will go to Pionk (who seemed to earn it last year) or Kampfer*.

      You just don’t put a player on waivers to make room for somebody who has impressed in a handful of games. Now, 20 games in, the Rangers might feel compelled to promote Hajek, Lindgren, or Day.

      How, you might ask, does Kampfer make the team? Well, the Rangers will carry seven defensemen. Maybe Quinn will play all seven rotating his third line from game to game, but maybe he will play the same six guys and carry a reserve who spends his life in the press box. That reserve has to be a veteran or someone they are afraid won’t clear waivers. You don’t want a Pionk or Hajek riding the bench.

      • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:30 pm

        I think you are spot on Ray. But I also think if Smith’s game is resurrected he will be traded to open up a space. I think Staal is bought out after this season to reduce the cap penalty, which opens another spot. And if ADA does not have a solid camp and make the team out of camp he will be gone too. And unfortunately if he does not make the team he won’t have much value.

        It may be tough this year to get Hajek and Lindgren in the mix this season. Hopefully by the end of the year they see time. From what I have read they are closer to NHL ready than Day. This is fine. no point in burning ELC years for these young kids right now, when winning the cup seems highly unlikely.

        • Aug 28, 2018 at 5:14 pm

          I think a Staal buyout is unlikely at the end of the season. Buying out a player gives you short term reward and long term penalty. The Rangers will likely not need cap space next year, so they won’t buy out anyone. Maybe in 2020.

          I believe that if ADA flops in camp, he will still make the team because the Rangers believe he would be claimed on waivers and they do not want to lose him for nothing. As with McIlrath, they will try to turn him around and they will try to trade him. Of course, eventually they will have to give up and either deal him for a 7th rounder or waive him.

          Of course, the scenario is very different if he plays well.

      • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:44 pm

        I think you’re wrong about Smith, he will have to start out like the the rest of the rookies and no names. I think the connection with Quinn will buy him some more good faith if it looked he’s still out of place. The team is not scared to take their chance and send him down again. Imo Staal has a more secure spot than he does.

        Pionk isn’t going to ride pine this upcoming season, he’s all game to secure his spot at this training camp. Kampfer is a interesting option, he got overlook by this fanbase but I saw a poor mans version of Hunwick when I watch him skate. This active D uptempo system with a different defensive scheme might make or break him, I wouldn’t count him out.

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:06 pm

    When was the last time, if ever, the NY Rangers won the Traverse City Tournament? As Dave alluded to, the goalies may hold them back from winning this year.

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:40 pm

      Rangers have won TC once, couldn’t tell you when though.

      • Aug 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm

        Was it the Evgeny Grachev show?

  • Aug 28, 2018 at 3:51 pm

    Does baby Brodeur have any talent? Ironic he is on a Rangers roster.

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 4:19 pm

      Better track record and genetics than his older brother but likely still not enough to jump from ECHL to AHL.

    • Aug 28, 2018 at 5:19 pm

      When I saw him in Oshawa, he went to his knees quicker than a Lincoln tunnel rat, stayed there longer. Wrote him off on the spot. I heard stories that his dad was a PITA micromanager, have no idea whether it’s true though.

  • Aug 29, 2018 at 9:05 pm

    Wait uncle daddy’s kid is in our team. That’s rich.

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