Using cap space as an asset: Which contracts can the Rangers acquire?

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One of the things we’ve been discussing a lot on this blog lately is the ability for the Rangers to exercise their financial clout this offseason. In the past, the Rangers have been able to offer a ton of money to free agents because they had the deepest pockets. The cap has changed that, but now the Rangers have another unique possibility.

The Blueshirts will have about $30 million in cap space this offseason, assuming an $80 million cap ceiling. With just a few RFAs to sign this year, and even fewer heading to big contracts the year after, the Rangers can use that cap space to take on a contract and get some assets in return. There are a few interesting targets as well.

Scott Darling

The Hurricanes swung for the fences with Darling, acquiring him from Chicago and thinking he could be their consistent netminder. Instead he was downright terrible. He’s also signed for another three years at $4.15 million. This could be a contract Carolina wants to shed.

This may not be the most ideal target, but he’s a target nonetheless. He’d fill the role of backup goalie, and you’d have to assume Benoit Allaire could do something with him to make him passable. Or the Rangers could just demote him and have him play in the AHL. The cap to them doesn’t matter.

All this said, Carolina isn’t really hurting for cap space. It’s possible, but likely not happening.

Marian Hossa/Johan Franzen

This was discussed a little bit yesterday in the mailbag, but Hossa’s deal is one the Hawks may look to trade. Hossa has another three years at $5.275 million on his deal, but it only pays $1 million a season. He’s basically retired, although he’s going the Chris Pronger route and not officially announcing it.

I don’t see this happening though, mostly because I can see a team needing to get to the floor (Colorado?) acquiring his contract. I can see Vegas making a play for it too. I get the feeling they’d make a better offer than the Rangers. But what do I know?

Franzen sits in the same boat as Hossa. He’s not playing ever again. He only has two years remaining at $3.954 million left. The real dollars are also $1 million. Same logic above applies here.

Plus, neither Detroit nor Chicago are budget teams. They can LTIR either contract and be fine with it.

Bobby Ryan

I’ve covered this a lot lately. I’m not going to rehash it here. Just remember that the 2020 lockout is looming, as is the likely compliance buyout. If it’s a Ryan/Staal or Ryan/Smith swap, there isn’t much of an increase in the cap it either.

Brandon Dubinsky

This one hurts to write. Partially because I loved him as a Ranger, but mostly because it looks like he’s been having some major off ice issues. Either way, Columbus isn’t up against the cap, but they will need the cap space if they truly want to contend. Dubinsky isn’t producing enough to warrant his contract when he’s on the ice, and CBJ could probably use that extra money.

Dubi has three years at $5.85 million remaining on his deal. That’s a lot to take on, especially if it’s the full cap hit. CBJ would need to throw something in to make it worth the time. I don’t know what that is, though. I highly doubt it would be someone like Sonny Milano. Maybe a mid level prospect? Their second rounder? I don’t know, quite honestly.

72 thoughts on “Using cap space as an asset: Which contracts can the Rangers acquire?

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 7:28 am

    Sorry Dave, all the players mentioned aren’t worth the time of day, unless we get another #1 pick from their respective teams. The odds of that happening are remote, and who really wants to get a lousy contract to deal with. If the Hawks want to give us their #1, along with Hossa, for one of our late #1 picks, or both, and or say a #1 and #2 pick, then I’d do what you suggest. I understand we are a very wealthy organization, but let’s not start to do crap like this which could very well come back and bite us in the can maybe next year, when there are plenty of top flight UFA who will become available!!!!!!

    • Jun 6, 2018 at 6:58 am

      The days of taking on bad contracts are over.

      The momentum for buying out Staal is gaining steam.

      • Jun 6, 2018 at 9:07 am

        Agreed Tony.

        If the Rangers want to be competitive sooner rather than later than using the Cap Space we have should be to first rid ourselves of the bad we currently have, not use it to offset bringing in a better player.

        Yeah it would suck know we have money tied up to the buyouts of Staal and Gi, but with the low salaried contract we currently have for a number of our “foundation” guys and the capgoing up these buyouts will not hurt us in paying our RFA’s or making waves in the UFA market.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 10:51 am

          Agreed mike.

          2 major reasons why the Rangers have no Cup since 1994: not good enough drafts and terrible se of the cap (that has nothing to do with Henrik’s contract).

          Notice Shatty got a 4 year contract, not 7.

          If Kovy comes, it’s for 2 years.

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 1:13 pm

            Kovy fired his agent because he couldn’t get two years.

            Closest he gets is a 1 year with a Jan. 1 extension. It’s not him, it’s the CBA.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:28 pm

              There’s ways around it, like everything else.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 10:53 am

          Considering current situation I think it’s better to keep Staal on the team as long as possible and not to go through the buy out now. We have cap space to eat his contract now rather than spreading it into the next six plus years.. i.e. into the time when we actually will need the cap space..

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 12:08 pm

            Yeah, I just don’t see as much of a point to this buyout right at this point in time, personally. I don’t know as Gorton has any more of an idea than anyone else at this point what next year’s team may be capable of, and I personally think Staal could look a lot better if Quinn installs a zone system of some sort and shelters Staal to account for what he is now – a big body, with good strength still, but who can no longer hang with most of the forwards in the league in open ice. We shall see, of course, but the only reason I can think of not to give Staal a chance in the new regime is if they feel he is blocking a ready potential difference-making prospect…and it seems to me that the guys that offer some upside (Day, Rykov, Lindgren, etc.) aren’t to that point yet.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 7:57 am

    No to Darling, no freaking way to Bobby Ryan, and no no no to Dubinsky. Darling sucks, Ryan’s a jackass, and Dubi’s freshly-won sobriety will be an instant risk in NYC. As long as the cap floor is attained, what would be the problem with letting the capspace ride into the 2019-20 season?

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 9:52 am

      We should see if Dylan McAvoy is up for grabs. Would be a great addition to the roster, and the future.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:06 am

    Only thing to watch out for would be a player who we would be required to protect in the next expansion draft. We did a good job making sure that Chytil and Andersson did not play enough this year to require protection. I’m all for taking on a bad contract in an attempt to pick up other assets so long as it does not put us in a worse position for the expansion draft. Further, 3 years would be the max I’d be comfortable with in carrying a contract like this as a lot can change in a short period of time. Say, for instance, we want to play ball next off season in free agency (Seguin anyone?), our cap space could get mighty tight mighty quick.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:25 am

    Just say no to Darling. He is the reason Carolina missed the playoffs this season. Darling started 8 of the first 10 games there this past season and was the 1B goalie by December behind a fading Cam Ward. Darling’s also turning 30 in December, so there’s no real upside there. The best thing that I could think to say about Darling is that he will increase the Rangers’ chances to get the #1 overall in the 2019 draft.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:33 am

      Darling was downright offensive last season. That said, I would still be willing to take on his 4.15 mil contract for a year. At worst- we would acquire an asset along with him (2nd round pick or something along those lines). At best, we would gain said asset AND he experiences a bounce back season with Allaire which we could parlay into additional assets at the deadline.

      End of the day, the Rangers are in a good position to pick up dead weight regardless of said player moving the needle. The allure is in the prospects/picks that come with the toxic contract.

      • Jun 5, 2018 at 10:06 am

        How do you guys not understand that? This isn’t about obtaining expensive talent. It’s about taking another team’s bad contract AND a 1st or 2nd round pick.

        Rangers have $25M in cap space this summer, might as well use some of it and get a pick in return.

        • Jun 5, 2018 at 11:13 am

          I commented on Darling. Carolina has more cap space ($27M) than the Rangers. Their UFAs are Stepniak, Derek Ryan, and Cam Ward. They like prospect Alex Nedeljkovic and expect to give him a look in camp, if he isn’t ready they would need to then acquire a backup after re-signing Ward if they move Darling. Where is the incentive to dump a salary?

          The only reason to acquire Darling is because you like him. Remember, this is a franchise that didn’t make a move at the deadline last year despite having a chance to make the playoffs. Carolina would cement themselves as cellar-dwellars if they gave up assets to move his contract.

          • Jun 5, 2018 at 5:46 pm

            Giving up an asset that doesn’t show until the contract expires not that great a cost, while the free cash helps the team with UFA’s now.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:37 am

    I would take Ryan if we swapped 1st rounders too. That would get us Tkachuk. Would rather have Bobby Ryan than Staal or Smith any day.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:38 am

    Swirl of rumors around the BlackHawks offering their pick for a solid defenseman. Not sure we have what they need.

    I think we use some of the Cap space to sigh JVR this year and keep the space for next years crop of free agents.

    Would be nice to have a pick in the top 5.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 11:23 am

      If JT and Kovy don’t fall through to JG than maybe JVR has a chance to be a NYR. He’s not that fast or tough and the top PP could do without him if Zucc’ s still here. I hope to see JG call Hartnell for some 4th line duties and keep more cap space to go after a big name free agent next summer.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:51 am

    Lot of people here seem to not get the whole point of acquiring these players lmao

    It’s not to use these guys as immediate roster improvements, it’s to take their bad contracts on and make other teams pay for it via picks or prospects. We have $30 mil in cap space rn and the only huge notables to resign are Hayes and Skjei. You could include Spooner and Namestnikov but still, $30,000,000 is an assload of cap space.

    I say we do it, take Bobby Ryan and make OTT pay out the ass for it!

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 9:03 am

      Yes indeed. Any proponent of free markets should be all aboard this train. It’s like paying to pollute / companies buying and selling carbon credits.

      Some teams have cap room, others don’t. Those who do should treat it as an asset and use it to their benefit.

      • Jun 5, 2018 at 9:48 am

        I would not want to see us take on more than a year of some teams bad contract. We will need the space in 2-3 years.

        • Jun 5, 2018 at 4:06 pm

          We will need space most notably in 3 years, and by then we can either use a compliance buyout on Ryan, or if he’s been “rehabbed” by then, flip him at a deadline (New Jersey maybe?) for even more picks. We could even retain. His contract is huge but half of it ain’t so bad. No one is going to warrant a HUGE pay increase by the time he comes off the books anyway. Not to mention Staal and Smith. Of CHI can wriggle our of it, so can we. They even got 3 cups out of the deal.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 9:56 am

    I love the idea of trying to hose Dorion and the Sens again. They’ve got a lot of pieces that could help our team out and the worlds cheapest owner in Melnyk.

    Bobby Ryan’s contract does scare me because I think this rebuild happens a lot quicker than some people want it too, but end of the day if he could pot 15 g 20 a, and be willing to accept a middle 6 role, he could slot in nicely. I think it’s naive to make a trade banking on a compliance buy out after 2020 season, so lets pretend that won’t happen.

    If we could take on the Ryan contract, and send the Staal contract the other way, we’re really only eating 1.5M extra for 3 years… and I’d much rather have Ryan than Staal at this point (sad to say even as I type it). If we could recoup significant assets, as we did in the Brass trade (they gave us a second rounder because of cheap Melnyk who didn’t want to pay a bonus….), I’m all for it.

    What do you say to…. Ryan, 22nd pick and 2019 2nd rounder, for Staal and 28th. Not sure if Ott bites at that, but worth a shot?

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 10:03 am

    I would take Ryan and their 1st round pick for one of our late 1st rounder and one of our 2nd rounders. That gives us 2 in the top 10 and gives them the money to sign Karlson.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 10:25 am

    What about sending Stall to Edmonton for Lucic. They get a defenseman that they might think is still good and we get a third or fourth line player still capable of 10 goals and providing some toughness.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 10:31 am

    Chris A. is 100% correct.
    I’m not sure why all the opposition to the idea. The concept is we take on a toxic contract we can afford ALONG WITH either a draft pick and/or a young player.

    We should use our cap space to our advantage. As long as we are not forced to protect the toxic contract player in the next expansion draft.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 10:43 am

    What contracts do the Rangers need to focus on, like RFA
    Hayes, Kreider, Skjei, Pionk, Vesey. Also read that if the Rangers buy out Staal, that will hurt the team even more financially. Staal could be traded, that would be the better route to go. If Zucc happens to be traded, here is to hoping the return is much better.

    The way I see it is that Lundqvist has a few more years left (2-3 yrs. top) before he will mentally and physically be drained, not be able to stop the puck. Question is should the Rangers commit to free agents in the next few years or try and draft or sign/trade for the next franchise goalie and quite possibly players? For example. Pionk has proven himself, can make the team this season. My personal opinion is the Rangers should look to minimally sign a player or two (not a huge contract, reasonable contract). Nothing like 7-8 million a season, save wherever they can.

    Also, Rangers will have to have a new core group to work with. We gotta build that group. Better to add to the team, then sign so many cast offs or players that had success years ago. Look at the Capitals, Ovechkin is leading this team, and he has so much support, its not just him scoring. That team is loaded, NYR should look to make a team like that 2-3yrs from now.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 11:52 am

      Wondering if Hank is ever going to get traded is pointless speculation. He’s been on the record that he doesn’t want to leave.

      I probably was one of the few fans that wanted to see this team reach the playoffs for experience purposes. The only reason that I’m happy they didn’t was due to the fact that they might have to play the Caps and they weren’t equipped to continue embarrassing them. This has got to be the worst Washington team since 2012. I knew the record of always shutting them down would end this summer and everyone would forget about 2012-2015 post seasons. I know San Jose was getting mopped in the finals from the summer of 2016 but were you saying this is the type of roster to copy ? Prior to this year all the Caps teams couldn’t sniff a ECF and the team that just squeezed around Tornonto. They supposedly had locker problem and confidence issues in their goalie. Trots was throwing people under the bus and telling Torts that his time was up a few weeks ago. They’re not a model team to go by, I rather make a better 2015 Rangers roster with better D men and no Glass in the lineup. The only thing that I can agree with you is that the Rangers need to get their depth back. They always had the best 3rd lines and guys who can chip in on the 4th line. 2015 had to be Caps best team that they ever iced, they had Mr game 7 and Backstrom was healthy and the Rangers still smoked them.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    This mentality is just insane

    Stick to the rebuild

    Use and manage assets appropriately and that includes payroll
    If you get a 1st in this draft for a bad contract, I am open to that, but who’s going to give you a bad contract and a number 1 for say Boo Nieves? No one, so why even mention it? No other way do I want a bad contract on this team.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 6:34 pm

      They give you the 1st to have free cash, while that money is something the Rangers won’t need with the ELCs of last year’s picks and some of the upcoming picks(if the draft well) not coming up during that period. Add to that Hank coming off the books and it all ties together.

      Don’t think of roster building as windows, think of it as waves. You get a great goalie, that’s a long wave. Forwards are shorter waves, D medium. When they sync, they amplify. When ought of sync, they trough.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    I could see Darling as a guy you rent, hope Benny can work his voodoo, then expose at expansion draft or flip that final season. If it doesn’t work, you bury him in Hartford, eat that $3mm, sign somebody on a league minimum and carry 22.

    Swap him and a 2019 or 2020 1st and 2nd? I can understand it, willing to take extra lumps this season.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 2:54 pm

    I don’t see much in this strategy. After the Rangers sign their restricted free agents and get enough bodies to fill out the roster, there really is only about $10M left. That’s pretty much all their flexibility. so I don’t think taking on a bad contract is a good idea – especially something like Ryan which runs forever.

    Also, there are just not very many partners either. Most teams are just not pressed up against the cap so badly that they need to “buy” cap space.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Greg Brady
    Greg Brady
    That’s that for Tavares w/ the Isles. Have heard from far too many connected people that the only way JT was staying was a reaffirmed commitment to Weight as head coach. Isles will attempt to trade his rights before July 1.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 3:33 pm

      Are you trolling? Either you are or I wasn’t reading the right sources because I thought JT secretly wanted to get rid of Weight all season long and wanted a more established NHL coach. If what you’re saying is true than him and Kovy becoming New York Rangers is that much more real now.

    • Jun 5, 2018 at 8:02 pm

      What did Marcia have to say about that?

    • Jun 6, 2018 at 8:04 am


      I have read some accounts where the authors feel JT will now definitely move on from the Islanders.

      My personal opinion is that JT has always played hard no matter who was behind the bench. So both Snow and Weight being removed really has no adverse effect on his thought process.

      This change may be enough to convince JT that the Islanders are moving ahead and are serious about building a championship team.

      If he goes the free agency route, there will be a number of suitors further along in the championship race then the Rangers.

      I feel he will resign with the Islanders and if by some chance he moves on, he will never sign with us, ala Zach Parise, who when he hit the market and didn’t even consider the Ranger’s offer, which by all accounts was superior to what the Wild signed him for.

      Tavares, like Parise, will not disrespect the team that drafted him by signing with their most hated rival.

  • Jun 5, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    Draft update: The original source that had Veleno listed at 150lbs, now has it at 192.

    That makes a lot more sense and makes for a solid Ht/Wt number.

    Also, combine numbers are out for tests, but only top 25s in each category. Interesting one was anaerobic testing, where Adam Ginning had a decent mean output number and a lower fatigue number(which is good); two things you want out D. Adam Boqvist had a high peak & mean output numbers, not in the top 25 in fatigue. Never saw the skating fade in games, just something in the back of the mind. Probably nothing. Probably the whole test means nothing except fatigue on B2B or 3in4 games.

    • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:38 am

      Boqvist could very well end up being the Rangers’ pick at 9.

      • Jun 6, 2018 at 1:10 pm

        God I hope not. Dude not only can’t play D, doesn’t even know where to start and is too small to do it even if he knew how.

        Two concussions to boot. Whatever his upside on O, he makes John Gilmour look like Chris Chelios otherwise.

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 6:42 am


    • Jun 6, 2018 at 8:50 am

      Any predictions on how this off season goes? I saw one article on SNY saying that they don’t expect all four of Hayes, Vesey, Namesnitkov and Spooner being on the team. I think its most likely that Spooner is the odd man out.

      Also that they expect he Rangers to be one of the most active teams in terms of trades. I think that means Zuccarello is probably gone.

      • Jun 6, 2018 at 11:07 am

        Since you asked…

        I think Kovy comes to the Rangers, despite what the media says. Because they will give him 2 years at $6M per, and the Rangers will (and probably already have) spell out their plan to compete next year.

        Karlsson is high on their list. So is OEL. Trouba is a dream at this point, as the Rangers would love to get him but Trouba will be tough to get trade wise as there are a lot of teams lining up for him. Both Karlsson and OEL are very gettable.

        Karlsson can force his way to the Rangers and AZ and the Rangers like to trade with each other. In either case, Hayes (IMO) will be the center piece for the possible trade. AZ wants NHL ready players at this point, that are not too old. Hayes qualifies. OEL turning down an 8 year, $8M per contract virtually makes him a lock to be traded.
        So how about a Hayes, Spooner, and first (not the #9 pick) for OEL?

        For Karlsson? Hayes, Spooner, Hajek (I want to keep Lindgren), and one of the late firsts?

        So if Hayes is traded then Nemer is the #2 center, and Chytil and Andersson round out the centers. So does this make the Rangers contenders? I think it makes them a playoff team, and it depends on what they do with the rest of the roster.

        In any case, 2 “stars” will be coming, IMO.

        Give me a thumbs up so I will get one, lol.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 11:42 am

          I can see Kovy coming here. I don’t believe the Islanders are really an option. They aren’t going to be good for a while.

          I don’t think the trades for one of those star defenseman will happen though I;m not opposed depending the price.

          I can see Hayes and Zucc being packaged to Arizona for the 5th plus someone like Domi. I think Namestnikov will be here next season. Spooner is possible if he’s on wing.

          I usually give you one any way lol.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 11:50 am

          Hayes is going nowhere. Neither is Hajek. If they want Karlsson, they’ll have to take back Bobby Ryan. Which–makes that prohibitive, at best.
          Its fun, I guess, to believe that Gorton and Quinn, can get this team back into Cup contention in one summer. Its fun, but totally unrealistic. If this a rebuild, one that will put the pieces in place to contend for years to come—adding people like Kovy. a Karlsson and OEL will just doom the rebuild to failure. The cost in picks and prospects will just create a continuing cycle where they are always looking to add that next piece of the puzzle(at the expense of some more young talent).
          They should go to the draft, move up if they can, and pick the best player available at that time. Trades should be made, with the future solely in mind; not some futile attempt at a Playoff berth and a quick first round ouster.
          This is not going to be quick or easy. But if it is done the right way(and that’s a big “if” here in NY), it can turn out to be the best thing this franchise has done in a long time.

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 12:59 pm

            Absolutely right on mark!

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 4:43 pm

            Look you can want them to go full rebuild as much as you want, but that’s not going to happen. This isn’t going to be like Arizona and Buffalo who are terrible for 5-6 years. If you read what Gorton has said he isn’t going to go with a team full of 18 year olds. That’s where players like Namestnikov who are in there mid 20’s come into play.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 4:57 pm

              Arizona’s been bad for that long because they couldn’t draft well and when they did they either did the full 4 years in college and went UFA(Blake Wheeler) or whined their way out of town(Kyle Turris)

              In Buffalo, the owner is well meaning but is screwing things up and meddling.

              The Rangers have been the former and starting to approach the latter with the sudden appearance of Lil Jimmy Dolan.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 6:59 pm

              When you hire a college “teaching” coach to take over—when it is revealed they asked Hank that if he didn’t want to be part of a rebuild, they would accommodate him—and when you start to promote your young future as the “new” Rangers(aka-Andersson, Chytyl and others hosting the Draft Party)–then that gives me hope that Gorton and Co. really do get it. No, they won’t have a team of all 18 yr. olds, but neither will they have a a team of retreads, FA’S and has-beens. At least that is my hope, when I see what they have done so far. Remember “Embrace the Tank!”? Well now its time to “Embrace the Rebuild!” With all the ups and downs that that entails.

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:36 pm

            Why is Hayes untouchable for trade?

            Did I miss something?

            He will not be traded just for the sake of trading, but if a top D man is available and Hayes needs to be included in the deal, then guess what’s going to happen.

            Unless the opposing GM is incredibly dumb. But to say that Hayes in untouchable for trade is not accurate.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 1:00 pm

          I doubt Vlad stays to be the 2c when he’s been a winger for most of his time in the NHL. That article was saying that he’s definitely on his way out compared to the rest of the names. Add to the fact that JG was sending a indirect message of being prideful when wearing the NYR logo. I’ve played this Hayes will stay put game ever since 2015 and now that a new coach knows his family personally and told him it was destined to coach. I think he’s as safe as Shatty, it was obviously a calculated move for those two besides for the rookies. They will put a hefty price on him just like they did on Zucc during the deadline so it’ll be one of those offers he can’t refuse if it does happen. I also doubt that they trade him for a guy who already told the press that he’s looking for the most money aka bidding war when his contract is up. If the Rangers get in on that than expect Hayes to still be a top 6 center with this team. Meanwhile Vlady is definitely on his way out to become a trade chip. I just don’t see him being a NYR center and especially at the expense of someone who’s already close to the management and now the head coach. See what Vally said about how Vlad and how he will be moved this summer. When Hayes does good than this team tends to be at it’s best so now he’ll get his shot to put up solid numbers and continue to be one of the top PK producers. After every major trade like from Stepan and JT transactions, there would be JG following it up about how Hayes was why he got rid of so and so. Imo Kreider could be the main center piece. I’m just trying to bring some facts around your opinion. Vlad was a throw in when you want to consider what Steve Y said and the news about wanting that Czeck D man and Howden the most out of the package. Rumors suggested that Hayes could have played for Team USA in the summer but got told by management to sit this one out. I think even if you feel that I’m projecting about him he still has to many Boston family ties which makes him apart of the old Boston boys club upstairs. Vally recently went over this about how the whole club personally knows him and where he trains etc. McDonough the athletic trainer down there was chopping him up as his best pro athlete and he’s notoriously known to be tight with Drury and JG. Add to the fact that in back to back camps AV has told the press that Hayes is on par with Nash and his conditioning as the team’s best trained athletes. Which probably explains why he only trusted him to take on those DZ% draws verse the other top line assignments.

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 4:38 pm

            Paragraph breaks can be your friend.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 2:35 pm


          On most occasions we agree, but in this case we are 180 degrees apart on the two players mentioned. They both can’t play a lick of defense, and would cost a fortune!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:31 pm

            The best defense is offense bro.

            And again, James asked me what I think they are going to do, and I answered.

            Whether I agree with it or not and whether fans like it or not.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm


              OK, well do you agree that they are a disaster in the making if a trade for either is made? Just your opinion, that I respect because you seem very informed!

              • Jun 6, 2018 at 8:01 pm

                Truth be told, the Rangers want Trouba, who is the D man that I really want. The issue with Trouba is that a million teams will be in on him and the trade cost will be off the charts.

                My plan? Sign Kovy for sure. He would immediately be the best offensive player on the team. He’s feisty and plays with an edge. At 35 he can still play. I would give him 2 years at $6M per.

                Instead of going the top D man route, I would sign De Haan. I like him a lot. Coming off injury he may not command as much as he would if he weren’t injured. Sign him to a reasonable contract and you now have a quality defensive D man to go along with Skjei, Shatty, and Pionk who are shoe ins as starters.

                Lindgren will get a real shot to make the team. He’s a beast and the Rangers think he is close to being NHL ready.

                I would also re-sign Nash for 3 years and $12M. Play him on the 3rd line and he can still play all 3 phases of the game (evens, PK, PP).

                Buy out Staal.

                Give Smith another chance to make the team.

                Go hard for Tavares, if he will listen.

                This is all my opinion.

              • Jun 6, 2018 at 8:07 pm

                And to answer your direct question, disaster? It depends on what the Rangers trade to get them.

                I would think that Hayes is the starting point. Is he untouchable? No way. Not like Zib, Chytil, and Andersson are untouchable.

                Trading Hayes, the 9th pick, and whatever, would be a disaster, yes. But if Hayes, Spooner, and a late first gets either one, I do that deal. Both are playing on incredibly bad teams, so I think that assessing their overall play is not fair.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 10:41 pm

              If your O face Dman cant get it out of your own end and has to be a sheltered deployment, is that worth a top 10 pick? Top 20? 1st round?

              And that’s predicated on them being competent in their own end.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 5:02 pm

          Jason Demers carried OEL this season

          • Jun 6, 2018 at 8:06 pm

            No he did not! Demers becomes useless after his skating.

            • Jun 6, 2018 at 10:05 pm

              I live in AZ, I’m guessing I’ve seen more Coyotes games than you.


              • Jun 6, 2018 at 11:11 pm

                You could be a season ticket holder who goes to 90% live. Idc but no way is that true, Demers couldn’t hold OLE jockstrap on a off night. I’m just a fan who watches a lot of hockey starting with if I get wind that it was a good game I missed.

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 9:52 am

    I’d be willing to reach out to Pittsburgh and kick tires on Hagelin. A straight up Hayes for Hags trade would be fair I think.

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    Keep the #9 pick and get a 10 – 16 pick using Vesey. Go to camp and watch for prospect surprises and what chemistry there is before considering another trade. Vesey would interest a lot of teams with a coach unlike AV. Quinn needs time to see these guys. Would love to get a ‘D’ and a winger or a center with experience as a winger. On draft day, we need great skaters with hockey IQ and leadership.

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    This team is full of mediocre players and no real stars. I suggest they move what they have to and use some Cap space to get one real star on this team this year. Don’t know who, and can’t tell you from where, but the guys we are depending on (Shatty, Zibanajad, Kreider, Skjei) are not bringing us to the promise land. Get me Karlsson or someone like him or get me the best forward out there. Most playoff teams have one stud. The idea that we can roll 4 “good lines” gets you nowhere.

    • Jun 6, 2018 at 2:45 pm


      For every point that Karlsson scores, he gives up two. The guy is terrible on defense, undersized, and worn out!!!!!!!!! Hell no, we don’t need that trash on this team!!!!!!! He is injured, check out this last seasons results, why not order a wheelchair in advanced for the guy?????????

      • Jun 6, 2018 at 4:46 pm

        Technically I believe it’s 1.03 goals he gives up.

        Imagine how bad he’ll be when the skating goes away (in as quick as next year)

        Blood flow to the ankle and heel are limited to begin with: I suspect the revision surgery he had last summer was to encourage access to blood supply.

        Doing anything with Karlsson, *at his best* is a waste of resources and a sideways move on the ice. If age curves and injuries kick in? It is playing with lit matches in a fireworks factory.

        • Jun 6, 2018 at 7:43 pm


          Folks, here is a thinking man’s response, right on the money!!!!!!!!

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    And what makes you think that any of their “mediocre players” can bring back that “stud,” without having to take back bad contracts or giving up precious draft picks. They just can’t—unless you are willing to give up anything for that type of player—and have a team with one great player and a bunch of addons. No, IMO, keep the picks and what little young prospects they might have and draft the “Next” great player. Not some other teams’ guy. Homegrown, and matured along with a bunch of other guys that, with the right coaching and some luck, can turn into something special. if its a rebuid—then rebuild it!

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    Agree….we could use a stud and some leaders on the Rangers. I agree Karlsson probably not the answer.
    Our last 10 years we have been trying to find the offensive defenseman and we blow it. Sanguinetti, Del Zotto, Yandle are examples of a waste of years and players/picks and setbacks. We need solid all around defenseman (meaning they need to play defense and work a break out) who help our team and not be a liability when on the ice. Karlsson – no thanks.

  • Jun 6, 2018 at 6:39 pm

    Brooks Orpik could be a target. He only has one year left at $5.5, and the Caps would probably like to dump his contract so they can keep Carlson.

  • Jun 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    I am a fan of the writers who run this blog, but sometimes you guys go way too far. The Rangers are not going to take on an albatross contract in exchange for picks or prospects — that is the definition of an Arizona Coyotes, 5-year window move and we are not the fucking Coyotes, we are the NEW YORK Rangers. Not to mention all of the dead cap space we currently have on the books. This is not a scenario that would ever play out in the real world.

    One benefit of the salary cap is the ability to rebuild and reload quickly. Rest assured that is what the Rangers will do. Sometimes I get the feeling that some of the writers here want to turn the team into a strat-o-matic simulation and remove the very real variable that the Rangers are a big market team. You have this notion of a rebuild in your mind that is all numbers-driven and completely isolates emotion and real-world factors.

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