Irresponsible Rumormongering

Sunday rumor roundup: So much, but so little

dan girardi marc staal

With the deadline to ask players to waive no move clauses coming up at 5pm tomorrow, and the expansion draft coming just one week later, the rumors are coming in from every direction. Some have a lot of information, others do not. Let’s see if we can summarize some of the tidbits flying around.

  • Per Elliotte Friedman, Scott Arniel interviewed with Buffalo and Florida. I’m assuming it was for their head coaching gigs. Doesn’t look like he got the job at either team though.
  • Also per Friedman, there’s a lot of smoke/connections between Lindy Ruff and New York. Apparently he was contacted to join Alain Vigneault’s staff, presumably as an assistant, and not as a future replacement. Just what the Rangers need – another coach who refused to adapt to the changing NHL.

  • There are conflicting reports that the Rangers are out on Ilya Kovalchuk (Larry Brooks refuted it). I don’t think the Rangers are serious players here. They won’t want to give up what the Devils are asking for, plus would need to dump another contract. They don’t need to spend more cap space on forwards. Fix the defense.
  • Speaking of Brooks, he published an article earlier this morning that had a lot of info that revealed so little. First is that Tyson Barrie (Colorado) and Jacob Trouba (Winnipeg) are both potential targets. Barrie has three years and $5.5 million remaining on his deal, and has solidified himself as a top-pairing defenseman who can play all situations while on a terrible team. Trouba the same, but his team is mediocre, not terrible. Acquiring one will be of significant cost.
  • Interesting to note that Sami Vatanen and the Ducks were not mentioned as a player/team the Rangers are targeting. Sometimes there is more value in what is said than what is not said. Just making a point.
  • Neither Marc Staal nor Dan Girardi were asked to waive their no-moves leading up to the expansion draft, as of yet, also per Brooks. That doesn’t bother me. If Jeff Gorton can get Vegas to take Holden –thus not really needing a spot to protect him– over a forward, I’m all for it. They can still buyout Girardi or Staal after the expansion draft.
  • Again per Brooks, Winnipeg/Calgary have contacted the Rangers regarding Raanta. I don’t think Raanta gets taken in expansion, but I think Calgary makes a perfect fit for a potential entry-draft deal at the end of June. Like Talbot, Raanta is replaceable and the Rangers need draft picks.
  • Last bit per Brooks: No qualifying offer expected for Brandon Pirri or Adam Clendening. Neither will be Rangers next season. Not a surprise, neither played towards the end of the season.

Enjoy your gorgeous (and HOT!) Sunday folks.

"Sunday rumor roundup: So much, but so little", 3 out of 5 based on 4 ratings.
Show More

21 Comments

  1. Other than the assumed Shatty signing, no particular rumors out there. But McKenzie, who I respect when it comes to inside info, confirms what I have been hearing, and that is that Gorton is exploring everything when it comes to a potential trade or having many irons in the fire.

    Gorton not looking for any particular deal which means he will pull the trigger on anything that he thinks improves the club. The Brass/Zib came out of no where last year, no one in the media saw that coming at all.

  2. Vigneault is a total schmuck when it comes to Clendening.

    I’m not saying he’s a top pair Dman but he’s better than Klein, Girardi, Staal and Holden and he played very well with Skjei except for the game Skjei played with the flu and was taking IV’s in between periods.

    Whatever.

    1. I can play this game.

      Vigneault is a total schmuck when it comes to defense pairings.

        1. To be fair, he’s probably right about that…

          Not that he should be; Clendo is in the top 25% of RHD in the league.

          For those who doubt that, look at the stats the McD/Clendo pairing put up (or hell, even his numbers with Skjei).

          If I put up a bunch of fancy stats (cf %, etc) of defensive pairings in the league from last year, and retracted the names, I doubt (m)any of you would be able to differentiate the aforementioned from ‘elite’ pairings in the NHL. I’ll give a hint though, as I’ve posted said information in prior threads – look at the top pairing – THAT WAS MCD/CLENDO!

          Like I said, if the front office can’t tell that Girardi and Clendenning belong in different leagues (and not the way they have it figured), then there is no hope.

          At all.

          1. I want to believe Gorton understands that Clendo is better than some other options, but he just doesn’t want to waste money on a player AV won’t play regardless. While that and other misfires on deployment/pairings on the defensive end wasn’t enough to get AV or Beueke canned in the front office’s eyes, I do want to believe Gorton is smart enough to see that. Even if Gorton did want AV gone, it’s possible he was simply outvoted or the notion was vetoed by Dolan, etc. Can’t always assume that just because a coach is retained or even extended, the GM is 100% satisfied with everything. Most coaches aren’t perfect. All just depends on the organizational structure and operating procedures; no one set mandatory way to run a front office. Although, it is entirely possible Gorton is perfectly fine with what was done on defense. Let’s hope not. With AV, it seems it’s more about taking the worse options he habitually goes back to away from him. What scares me is that Glass was called back up. That could have been Gorton simply letting AV make the call and/or not wanting there to be personal friction if AV did want him back up given the injuries, but as a GM, I wouldn’t personally have made that move regardless.

          2. “What scares me is that Glass was called back up. That could have been Gorton simply letting AV make the call and/or not wanting there to be personal friction if AV did want him back up given the injuries, but as a GM, I wouldn’t personally have made that move regardless”

            _______________________

            That’s what irks me about this situation; if you’re a, how shall I put this, a part-time GM, even if it requires a small bribe (say, a 5th rounder + a cookie), protecting the team from the coach should’ve been a priority at the trade deadline.

            Of course, he could have been potentially overruled on that as well.

            In other words, either he’s not in control, or he doesn’t see the problem. Either way, it doesn’t look good.

          3. Yeah, if the only option otherwise was really raw players freshly drafted/signed, it would be a different story. I still wouldn’t like it, but I could at least see that logic. With Hrivik and Jensen specifically available though, that’s what concerned me. Neither of those guys are stars in the making from what we can tell, but they would have, IMO, been better options. The Glass call up led me to believe that they were specifically going for grit, which frankly I don’t think was the right choice, or that they simply think Glass is better than he is. In a small way, going for grit would be better. Either way though, concerning, for sure.

  3. Why can’t we just Qualify Glendening and Pirri for the sake of exposing them to LVK and if we can just send them down to Hartford next year and if no one picks them off the waiver wire them we have them in Hartford , and are able to call either of them up .Because if Lindberg and Puempel play hardball with the qualifying offer we are off the hook to losing a draft choice .

  4. “Why can’t we just Qualify Glendening and Pirri for the sake of exposing them to LVK and if we can just send them down to Hartford next year and if no one picks them off the waiver wire them we have them in Hartford , and are able to call either of them up .Because if Lindberg and Puempel play hardball with the qualifying offer we are off the hook to losing a draft choice .”

    because that makes too much sense… BEGONE WITH YE!

    makes way more sense in rangerland to lose them for nothing

  5. I think the Clendening thing is just dumb and really makes me question Gorton. He is a legitimate NHL defenseman. While Ranger brass may be right that he is only third pair or seventh guy, we are talking about a guy making $600K. What’s the qualifying offer? 660K? Surely you can get something for him in trade — and if not, and you don’t want him, send him to Hartford. If he gets claimed on waivers, you are just back where you started.

    1. Yup, exactly – unless they are confident that they are going to overhaul the blue line to the point that Clendo really wouldn’t be in the top 7 talent wise and would need to start in the AHL…and that’s hard to envision. Even considering they seem to like Holden more than they should. Even if you don’t include him as a downgrade compared to Clendo, still hard to envision.

      1. I don’t question that Gorton thinks he will end up with seven better defensemen than Clendo. I don’t care. I think that Clendo signed to a contract for less than $700K$ is a tradeable asset and throwing away tradeable assets is foolish. And if he ends up in Hartford as the #8 or #9 defenseman, he doesn’t really cost anything and might be helpful if there are injuries.

Back to top button
Close
Close
Skip to toolbar