Thoughts following 12 minutes of Flyers/Rangers

go to site I couldn’t watch the whole game last night, I had work obligations. But I did get home for the final 12 minutes of the game. I polled Twitter on the first 48 minutes of the game as well. So I have some thoughts. I also want to give you my thought process from when I turned on the game, and that is going first because it’s different.

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minocycline 500mg 5mg Ok on to thoughts of the game.

  • Looks like Henrik Lundqvist had a rough game. I can’t remember the last time he had a strong first preseason game, so I’m not worried. Heard the defense was pretty rough too. Again, just the preseason.
  • Speaking of the defense, there was one play I wanted to point out, which I did on Twitter:

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  • That’s Skjei up top by the point. closest to the bottom of the image. That is how Alain Vigneault used to have his defensemen play. Skjei had a rough turnover before this along the boards, and then stuck his man up to the blue line. As mentioned the other day, it looks like David Quinn will break that habit. However it’s going to take a while. Expect to see that a lot.
  • Brendan Smith looks like he wants to give a giant middle finger to AV, all doubters, and anyone who made fun of him in middle school. Dude was angry and it showed.
  • I saw one goal, and it was the Flyers’ clinching goal. That giveaway by John Gilmour was rough. I don’t focus on one play to judge a player, but if it comes down to him or Neal Pionk, that play may stick out in minds.
  • Libor Hajek looked decent in the limited time I saw, but others on Twitter said he looked very good. Same with Brett Howden, although the latter looks like he needs more seasoning in Hartford. Not surprising.
  • I like the aggressiveness to pull the goalie with the man advantage while down two goals in the third. It didn’t work out, but it was different. I like the idea.
  • With so many players remaining in camp, I expect another round of cuts before the next preseason game.
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37 thoughts on “Thoughts following 12 minutes of Flyers/Rangers

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 6:48 am
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    s bystolic 10 mg The defense was fine for a game like this. Lindquist gave up 3 soft goals. 1st game for Hank so not a big deal but let’s give blame were it belongs this season and not just call out the usual culprits.

    http://forcecomms.com/zyrtec-d-buy-online.html And yes Smith looks like very different than last season. Seemsqa like a lock for a top 4 slot.

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 7:44 am
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    inderal 40 mg anwendung It’s pre-season folks, let’s not shit our pants already!!!!!!!! There is going to be a learning curve we have to work with down the road, which will be a bit rough so let’s not all become chicken little………….

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 11:33 am
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      source Come on Walt…..
      No one expects this team to be very good this season and probably the nest but lets face the facts…..Lunquist needs to retire asap……His play has continued to deteriorate the past 4 years and his salary will prevent us from signing a top player or two…….
      I liked what i saw from the players….lots of speed and purpose……
      We got outhit again , badly, but until we get some thumpers…..so be it…..
      Loved Smith……..Dave is right , he is sending AV a message!!!!!

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 12:08 pm
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        levlen ed tablets price Since Lundqvist stands to make $20M over the next three years, why should he retire? Not very wise. Given his contribution to the franchise over the years, Ranger management surely does not begrudge him the money, whether he earns it or not. So you are asking him to put aside personal interest in order to save the Rangers some actual cash (which they likely don’t care about), some cap space, a roster spot, and team dynamics.

        buy zantac syrup for cats Let’s consider those three things. Cap space this year is utterly worthless and I believe that it should not be important next year either (if they struggle in 2019-2020 with the cap, 2020-2021 may be bleak). So at the least, retirement now is not called for.

        http://joinevents.net/alesse-birth-control-pill-cost.html Roster spot: Neither Mazanec nor Tokarski really belongs in the NHL (and even Georgiev has not proven he can be consistent). Having Hank as one of the top two tenders hardly seems a sacrifice at this point. In fact, it looks like a plus to me.

        estrace vag cream 0.1mg/gm Now if Quinn feels obligated to play Hank 60+ games when he is ineffective and Georgiev is playing well – or if Quinn defers to Hank as AV did, then Hank is a problem. But so far Quinn does not seem to be the type to defer to anyone.

        dapoxetine online purchase in india Personally I hope Georgiev looks as good as he did at the end of last season and goaltending is divided 30-50, 40-40, or 50-30. Like you, I believe that Hank is not the tender he was five years ago. But that doesn’t mean he isn’t better than Tokarski and it does not mean he is in the way now. The Rangers have more important things to worry about.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 2:07 pm
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        go here Rich

        where to buy aricept online I never said we’d be good this year. I understand it’s a rebuild season, and I am a strong supporter of the youth movement, but why is are many reacting this way with only the second pre-season game, with a hodge podge team that was put on the ice. I want to see everyone play, evaluate their abilities vs others on the team, and go from there.

        http://blackhawksoccer.org/voltaren-emulgel-price-south-africa.html As for Hank, he isn’t the same player he was a few years ago, but you have to give the man a shot to prove himself. Let’s see what happens by the end of the year, and if we see no improvements, then management should do what’s best for the organization……….

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 7:52 am
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    benzac stockists online Reading through last night’s thread showed me our resident Hank haters are in mid-season form while Hank was in preseason form (never a good look!). It’s going to be a long season on here if people are this ugly during a meaningless game on 9/19. As much as you guys enjoy trashing the HOF goalie, why not give it until, say October or November, before gleefully sticking it to him? Just a thought…
    I thought the group played a strong 3rd (Smith especially) and that they were pretty “relentless” – Quinn must have lit a fire under them at intermission. That very long 6 on 3 (and 4) pp was a little too cute, but their goalie made some terrific saves. Tokarski looked calm and good out there though slightly unorthodox. Will be interesting to see if he or Georgiev starts the season as the #2.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:14 am
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      Noone trashed Hank. It’s going to be along season if you just make things up.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:49 am
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        We clearly read different threads…

        • Sep 20, 2018 at 7:45 pm
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          Sittoo !

          • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:06 pm
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            • Sep 21, 2018 at 8:52 am
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              Its always summer here …. hows things with you ?

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 1:45 pm
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      I missed the game but after giving up giving up 5 goals in 22 shots at least Hank’s glare must be in midseason form.

      C’mom I’m just kidding

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:07 am
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    It is just a pre-season game, but I saw some things I liked.

    Yes, Smith looked much better and like a guy who wants to stick around. Buchnevich again looked like he could be a dominant player this season. I thought Beleskey had a decent game, as did DeAngelo and Hajek. Chytil looked great on the goal, though he coughed up the puck a couple of times, as did Gilmour. I am not sure what the tweeters saw in Howden’s night. He didn’t look bad but he didn’t do much. So much for the eye test. I am sure there are things I didn’t notice!

    Its early, and it is a heck of a lot of fun to watch hockey again!

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:12 am
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    Other than Hank who looked rusty, no one looked great or horrible. Defense will definitely need time to adjust and work as a pair, which is tough to do at this point.

    Saw some nice boardwork by some of the forward lines, but often saw 2 behind the net and the 3rd no where to be found. Unsure if Quinn wants 3rd forward out more if 2 are stuck behind, but it sure looked that way.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 12:20 pm
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      Chytil like Kreider should never play on the PK again. I think he’s going to have a rough +\- if he’s a NHL regular for 3c. He’s good when the puck is flickeringly pass a D man which requires a race to get to it. If it’s around the boards than his drive to dig for it goes polar opposite from when he had a 50/50 puck battle at center ice. Turn overs pucks from the blue line, lack of commitment in the DZ, taking the puck across Hank’s crease. It felt like I was watching Kreider from 2012-13.

      I thought Beleskey did his job quite well and so did ADA and Buch but the rest were a little below average. Philly iced a really green squad last night, their PP was opening up the PK all night long and all they had to do was throw Giroux and Weise with them.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 2:15 pm
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        Yep Mint….Chytil too much hype placed upon him so far

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:37 am
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    Smith obviously pissed a lot of us off last season. Whether or not one believes he was quite that bad enough to warrant the full treatment he got, pretty much everyone was irked to some degree. That said, I’m still rooting for him in the regard that he’s gonna be a Ranger for at least another half season (I assume longer, but you never know), and it is in our best interests all-around that he rebound – whether it be for the product on the ice, salvaging any potential trade value, or some long term combo of both. Glad to see he looks to be putting in the work and maintaining the correct attitude; hopefully he keeps it up and the results will fall into place.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:59 am
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      One huge upside if Brendan Smith is truly back is that it will allow Skjei to go back to focusing on his offensive game. Last year, I think his defensive responsibilities took him away from his strength which in moving the puck and creating scoring opportunities.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:40 am
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        I concur, at least if/when they are paired together. Smith being back to form (not saying he definitively is just yet – just being cautiously optimistic based on a small sample) would indeed presumably have a positive ripple effect throughout the back end hopefully, regardless of pairings. I don’t at all see him as a savior for the blue line, but with as many problems as we have seen back there in the last couple seasons, any positive progress is notable and significant in my opinion.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 11:37 am
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      I don’t think last year was properly understood. I don’t think Smith was that bad (arguably better than Skjei). I think AV was upset with his attitude and the way he handled his mistakes and needed discipline. The only weapon in his arsenal was sending Smith to Hartford. Things did not go so well there at first and he broke his hand in a fight with Lettieri, ending his stint and season after only 11 games. And so he never came back because he could not come back. I imagine AV expected Smith to change his attitude and return to NY.

      Incidentally, this story represents a total debunking of the myth that Vigneault held kids to impossible standards and never took action against the veterans.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 12:03 pm
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        You’re forgetting that Smith was never that good in the first place. By sending a guy like that down inwas the AHL was like writing his meal ticket in for that year. Guy’s like that cannot afford to to come to camp out of shape, he would have never caught up to be in mid season form. I think you’re painting AV as apart of his scapegoat. FYI, Babcock and Zetterberg have both called him after terrible performances with the Red Wings. I’m just saying he’s never been popular with some of the top tier talent in this league. I think Kyle Quincey and him we’re huge reasons why Detroit couldn’t reach another Cup Finals with Dats, Zetterberg and Babcock at helm towards the later part of that era.

        • Sep 20, 2018 at 2:16 pm
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          That was not a good trade…gave up a 2nd for him

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 3:44 pm
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        One example of a vet being punished doesn’t debunk anything about AVs tenures in VAN or NY. The pattern of younger players getting their wings clipped for lesser mistakes than vets, in terms of what we could see on the ice especially, is not offset by Smith. In fact, another way to look at it is that AV so favored vets that Smith had to show up completely out of shape AND with a bad attitude about it for AV to actually clip him like that.

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:53 am
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    Some observations:

    Goalies: Agree Tokarski looked calm and BIG. Lundqvist wasn’t his sharpest but I am not going to worry about that until late October at the earliest.

    Defense: A little lost at times but I don’t think the 6 goals were representative of their defensive game. Smith stood out for me. Boy DeAngelo creates some great offensive opportunities but he always seems to take one more move than he needs to before dishing or shooting. Having him at the point in a 1-3-1 powerplay setup is going to create some harrowing moments. Not sure his game is mature enough for the NHL (i feel like his head is down too much in order to distribute – too many blind passes as well). He will make the team but his game will be evaluated game in and game out. I like Hajek’s all around potential but a year of Hartford will do him well. Feel bad for Gilmour – tough break on ticket to Hartford.

    Forwards: I have always been a backer of Buch’s potential and the last two games gives me confidence that he will be a Top 2-3 points leader on this team with consistent Top 6 minutes and PP time. Everyone always knocks his speed but there is fluidness about his skating, coupled with his reach, that creates opportunities that other players aren’t able to create. Spooner played well: he or Vesey are gone after this year unless the latter shows some more grit to differentiate. I can’t say Howden stood out for me from a good or bad perspective. Chytil still looks lost in Defensive zone so I would expect him on the Wing more sooner than later if he stays on the NHL roster. Who doesn’t like Letteri’s shoot first mentality!?!? Lastly, still early but I think Belesky might be a nice complimentary piece to a 4th line with Fast.

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 8:59 am
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    My thoughts on last night….

    — Great to see the whole team start sticking up for each other last night. Brendan Smith in particular had an assertive game. We may have a decent blue line after all if he can keep his game intact.

    — Chytil looked good, although I thought he also looked unsure of where to be on the ice at times. I guess that’s everyone out there though. He has some sneaky moves out there that I can’t wait to see more of. He looked a little flat-footed on his goal at first, but then two strides and a quick move, and it’s in the net.

    — I thought Belesky looked decent. Mixed it up, had a goal, noticeable out there.

    — Hajek looked closer to ready than I expected. He moved the puck well, took a lot of shots, and came close to scoring. Probably better to start in Hartford while the NYR sort out Smith, McQuaid, and ADA. But there is something there for sure. Joey Keane also looked better than I expected.

    — Speaking of ADA, I dont know. Looks the same as last year…. still jittery with the puck a lot of the time, making extra moves, too much stick-handling. The “flashes” are there. But he is still a poor man’s Del Zotto to me. Would hate to see someone like Pionk suffer for ADA. I would really consider moving him quickly.

    — Jimmy Vesey was barely noticeable out there to me. It’s a stark contrast when you see how far Buchnevich has come along compared to Vesey. I’d like to see one more game from him, but starting to think a package of Vesey and ADA together could be attractive.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:12 am
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      Largely agree except on Vesey and, to some extent, on ADA. I thought Vesey was noticeable for not great reasons, especially the absence of a finishing touch.

      ADA is exciting, fast, and creative. He played well defensively last night too, I thought. He seems to change the speed of the game to our advantage, although at the same time he doesn’t seem to elevate the play of those around him like Zbad and Buch do. Maybe that will come with more time? Maybe not — and it turns out he is just a shiny object that is easy to see, but is not ever really going to do much. I am curious to see how his PP decision making evolves. He seems comfortable moving the puck and putting it in the direction of the net, but his shot is hardly noteworthy.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:48 am
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        Good point about elevating the play of those around them. In the end I would take a Pionk over ADA any day and quite arguable Gilmour as well. Just don’t think ADA’s game translates to the NHL. I picture teammates slapping their sticks on the ice for him to pass it to them (like my son’s youth games).

        • Sep 20, 2018 at 11:48 am
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          The big problem with ADA is waivers. The Rangers have three options. Either ADA makes the team, they trade him, or they put him on waivers for the purpose of sending him to Hartford. I believe – and I believe Ranger management and most other people believe as well – that if option three is exercised, ADA will be claimed and lost for nothing. Since he is perceived to have a high ceiling, this would be a very bad outcome.

          Most of the “hard” decisions are relatively unimportant. If you send Pionk or Chityl down and change your mind, you just bring him back up again in a few weeks. But the ADA decision is critical. They need to know what they have.

          • Sep 20, 2018 at 12:04 pm
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            You’re forgetting that Smith was never that good in the first place. By sending a guy like that down inwas the AHL was like writing his meal ticket in for that year. Guy’s like that cannot afford to to come to camp out of shape, he would have never caught up to be in mid season form. I think you’re painting AV as apart of his scapegoat. FYI, Babcock and Zetterberg have both called him after terrible performances with the Red Wings. I’m just saying he’s never been popular with some of the top tier talent in this league. I think Kyle Quincey and him we’re huge reasons why Detroit couldn’t reach another Cup Finals with Dats, Zetterberg and Babcock at helm towards the later part of that era.

            • Sep 20, 2018 at 1:16 pm
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              I’m not sure you can reasonably suggest — without being in locker rooms and coach’s rooms — that “he’s never been popular…” But whatever, it’s the internet, so roll with what you like. More importantly, did you really just copy and paste the same comment from above?

              • Sep 20, 2018 at 2:43 pm
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                TCJJ—Mintgecko specializes in ridiculous psychodramas that he invents. At least he didn’t mention Kevin Hayes in his twice-posted, equally baffling and pointless commentary.

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:02 am
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    Some observations:

    Goalies: Agree Tokarski looked calm and BIG. Lundqvist wasn’t his sharpest but I am not going to worry about that until late October at the earliest.

    Defense: A little lost at times but I don’t think the 6 goals were representative of their defensive game. Smith stood out for me. Boy DeAngelo creates some great offensive opportunities but he always seems to take one more move than he needs to before dishing or shooting. Having him at the point in a 1-3-1 powerplay setup is going to create some harrowing moments. Not sure his game is mature enough for the NHL (i feel like his head is down too much in order to distribute – too many blind passes as well). He will make the team but his game will be evaluated game in and game out. I like Hajek’s all around potential but a year of Hartford will do him well. Feel bad for Gilmour – tough break on ticket to Hartford.

    Forwards: I have always been a backer of Buch’s potential and the last two games gives me confidence that he will be a Top 2-3 points leader on this team with consistent Top 6 minutes and PP time. Everyone always knocks his speed but there is fluidness about his skating, coupled with his reach, that creates opportunities that other players aren’t able to create. Spooner played well: he or Vesey are gone after this year unless the latter shows some more grit to differentiate. I can’t say Howden stood out for me from a good or bad perspective. Chytil still looks lost in Defensive zone so I would expect him on the Wing more sooner than later if he stays on the NHL roster. Who doesn’t like Letteri’s shoot first mentality!?!? Lastly, still early but I think Belesky might be a nice complimentary piece to a 4th line with Fast.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 9:54 am
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      There’s nothing that McLeod can do that Belesky can’t IMO. There are some things Belesky can do that McLeod can’t IMO, however. While I’m anti-McLeod and I have not been shy about that bias, I haven’t exactly been pro-Belesky either, by any stretch of the imagination. That said, I’d definitely rather see Belesky on the NHL roster than McLeod if it comes down to the two of them.

      I think ADA had a real solid game. That said, I agree with you that just a little simplification at times could prevent some of his mistakes, and allow him to keep his head on a swivel more.

      • Sep 20, 2018 at 10:05 am
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        I agree on ADA. I could be wrong (it wouldn’t be the first time!) but I thought DeAngelo had a much stronger game than some of the other folks have described. He got the puck to the net several times, blocked a few shots and his defensive zone play seems to have gotten better. Looking at the box, he was on the ice for 23 minutes. That tells me, along with him playing in back to back games, that they are trying to see what they have and are giving him a decent chance to show them.

    • Sep 20, 2018 at 11:18 am
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      Nice honest evaluation.
      The ice sucked, Could it get any worse?

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 10:29 am
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    Buch has looked very good both games!

  • Sep 20, 2018 at 11:27 pm
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    It’s going to be quiet fun to see how they sort out defense group:

    Staal and Claesson looked like zombies, ADA and Pionk were good and Skjei and Smith were ok. We need 1 more left handed d-man, and it should be Hajek….. McQuaid is old and traumatic #7… I was absolutely pro buying out Staal in june…. but they didn’t, for tanking it’s good, for team not really

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