The Case for Captain Callahan

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mobic 7 5 mg prezzo With all the buzz about the Erik Karlsson trade that’s coming any day/week/month/year/millennium now, there’s also been a good amount of scuttlebutt about the Rangers playing middleman in such a deal. As Dave noted yesterday, one of the possibilities for the Rangers in facilitating the eventual acquisition of Erik Karlsson by the Tampa Bay Lightning would be the return of Ryan Callahan.

http://modagami.com/arcoxia-90-mg-dosierung.html This would be a doozy from a salary cap standpoint, sort of, as he’s signed for $5.8 million dollars for another two years, but the “sort of” comes in when you consider that the Rangers are not likely to be super competitive for the next two years (although I’m with Dave in that they won’t be as bad as everyone thinks) and the Rangers in any event will be subsidizing his big ol’ cap hit with the amount of players on cheap deals that they’ll have (Andersson, Chytil, Buch for another year). So it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to take him on as a way to induce TBL into sending us something sweet as a thank you for helping them find room for the best defenseman of the past billion years. Beyond that though, I have a modest proposal, first suggested by the elder statesman of the Rangers beat himself, Larry Brooks.

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http://iplmatchtoday.com/buy-zestril-cheap.html That’s right: Ryan Callahan as the next Rangers captain. A Grover Cleveland style return to eminence for the former and maybe future Ranger would be a great idea for a few reasons, most of which are emotional but some of which have practical application. Allow me to explain.

metformin 1000 mg pill identification First of all, Jeff Gorton has been vocal about the need for character and leadership in this Rangers locker room, and that one of the considerations as far as future acquisitions is going to be just that. Obviously, there’s a certain hesitancy among most of us to bring in character over skill, which Cally would certainly represent to some degree but again, the Rangers aren’t gunning for the Presidents’ Trophy next year anyways. It also can’t be discounted that the kind of undying work ethic Ryan Callahan puts out every single shift is something worth having on the team, because consciously or subconsciously the younger Rangers who we’ll be depending on in the future will take note and try to emulate that when they see how endearing it is to coaches and team mates. This is the practical aspect of having him back on the team: he fits the mold of what kind of player the Rangers want their youngsters to be in terms of intangibles (yes, I did just say intangibles).

cytotec buy I mean just take a look at this shift, where, without a stick, he blocks shots, hustles, and does everything he can to get the puck out of the zone. Surely guys like Andersson, Chytil, K’Andre, Nils, and Kravtsov will notice that when Cally’s on the ice giving 110% the crowd goes wild – every player wants that kind of response from the best fans in hockey, and whether they can vocalize that feeling or not it’ll rub off on them just exactly what that play style means to the people on the ice, on the bench, and in the stands. I’m also going to leave my favorite goal from the former captain because it’s great and shows the kind of joy he’ll bring to the team, another great quality that’ll teach the new guys to remember that hockey is a privilege and is supposed to be fun.

http://www.joseluisadame.info/penegra-100mg-in-pakistan.html There’s a bigger reason though to make Ryan Callahan captain of our beloved New York Rangers though, and you’ll have to pardon me for getting all sappy here. When he left, it was somewhat acrimonious – rumors leaked of his massive contract demands, generating bitterness from fans who, as my dad has grumpily reiterated to me multiple times, felt like they were being held hostage. He more or less forced the Rangers to trade him, a simply worst-case scenario kind of breakup that leaves both sides with a bad taste in their mouth. Sure, Martin St Louis proved crucial in our playoff run that year, but trading Callahan was an emotional low point. Eventually the reality set in, and the refrain became “it’s just business”.

astelin price But that’s a cold, empty way to understand hockey. We spend so much time building a community and showing our love for the game, and when players come along who reciprocate and thrive off that energy it’s a special thing. A player who gives absolutely everything to a team does so sincerely, outpouring all of their love for the game and the fans they have in them night in, night out. Sure, hockey is in fact business, but it’s not just business – it’s something more. I’m sure you all know this, but maybe it’s worth a reminder: hockey is part of the way we build our own meaning in an often chaotic, meaningless world. Ryan Callahan knew what the Rangers meant to us all, especially after years of mediocrity and a lack of homegrown talent. He knew he was one of the family, which implicitly means he knew that hockey is about family.

http://www.notesofnomad.com/diclofenac-duo-75-mg-upotreba.html A lot of the discourse around players leaving their long-time teams is somewhat cynical, centered around the transactional idea of what players owe their teams, what teams owe their players, and how the fans factor into all of this. It usually comes down to the idea that nobody owes anybody anything in this calculus, that we’re all simply independent, and worse, alone. Hockey brings us together though, it makes us less alone, and we owe it to everyone involved, the team, the community, the future, and even Ryan Callahan to bring about a better ending to this era of the Rangers. We’re looking towards bright things ahead with a hard break from the past, but waiving Brendan Smith is no way to commemorate what came before. In order to close this chapter, to bring finality to the golden era of the Henrik Lundqvist Rangers, there would be nothing quite as fitting as demonstrating that hockey means something bigger and making Ryan Callahan captain again.

61 thoughts on “The Case for Captain Callahan

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:11 pm
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    co diltiazem t 180 mg Tough to wear the C if he’s always hurt. Not knocking him, but facts is facts.

    mobic 7.5 prescription To swing that deal, would need 3 1st rd picks off of Tampa using my pulling numbers out of my crack calculations from a prior thread. Spread them out so it’s every other year.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:33 pm
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      clonidine hcl0.1mg Agreed … that was the issue with Cally getting traded in the first place IMHO. It’s not that 5.8m was so outrageous, it was (like with McD after him) an issue of whether his style of play would lead to a quick breakdown of his body as he entered his 30’s. Yes, the AAV was high but the kicker was the term and whether he could even play enough games to justify any salary over $4m. That said, I would welcome him back for 2 years IF we can squeeze out a “real” prospect or a 1st rounder … at least something equivalent to that.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:39 pm
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    see url I’ve moved on , so should you.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:44 pm
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    valtrex costs Agree that he is hurt much too often to be captain. Seems like a lot of money spent on a player to ride the bench. How about looking for some new Ranger blood who can lead by example. That should come from Quinn’s choosing.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:56 pm
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      prednisolone 5mg buy online No one has suggested bringing back Cally and his contract as anything other than another way to acquire additional assets. We’re not paying to bring him on board, we’re being paid to do so … in that light the issue isn’t about his AAV, we have more than enough cap space to do so and the contract is just for 2 years.

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:57 pm
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  • Jul 8, 2018 at 12:50 pm
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    januvia sitagliptina 100 mg para que sirve Pat, I think you’re underestimating the defenseman of the past billion years, but I know that’s not the point.

    zyrtec 10 mg preis Anyway, interesting to read your contrarian point of view. I happen to disagree entirely with the conclusion although I don’t deny the premise. I have a hard time believing that a player who forced his way out of town by demanding a contract that has subsequently all but proven that it would in fact have been a huge mistake, and that rangers management team was (gasp) probably right to trade him at the time, should return as our captain. Yes when healthy he brings a lot of positive role model, but surely he’s not the only aging vet who can serve as such a role model, and in my wind anyway that is not enough to wear the C. If he returns and does some good with the kids, I would consider that reparations, but you don’t just gift him the captaincy. I wouldn’t have called up wade redden to wear a letter just because he was a mentor to the kids in Hartford.

    Hard pass on Captain Callahan for me. 3rd/4th line Callahan who comes over with assets of actual value to the future and a good attitude as well? Okay maybe.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:05 pm
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      I agree that Cally shouldn’t be given the “C”. He can demonstrate the character without a letter.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:23 pm
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      Agreed. We didn’t want to pay him that money when we were poised to make a couple of runs and now we are going to pay after a few more years of wear and tear with no real chance to win in the two remaining years of his contract? Nah…he was one of my favorite Rangers the past 15 years but set sentimental reasons aside and look at it from a logical standpoint.

      He will get hurt (never played all 82 games in a season) and we will most likely not be able to flip him for what we here are speculating he could fetch at the trade deadline.

      I get the argument for 1st round picks and even spread them out every other year and all that…..but will Tampa really let go of multiple future 1st picks to free up space for Karlsson? I’m not so sure Yzerman would concede to that. They still have the best blue line in the league outside of maybe Nashville without Karlsson.

      Like I said yesterday, if we can in fact ween picks/prospects and can clearly come out the winner then pull the trigger, if not we need to tread carefully with these types of transactions regardless of the player. We still have a few guys left to resign too…arbitration coming up for Skjei, Hayes, Spoons, Vesey…

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 3:45 pm
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      Agree with your post, and my take is how many couples get divorced, and then remarry? He demanded too much, forced a trade that cost us 2 #1 picks, and now we have to take on his contract, I think not. This is poor business, but if they give me at least a #1, and a NHL ready prospect to boot, then I can kiss and make up. Even at that, I’d cringe at the thought!!!!!!!!!

      How many on this site remember the trade, Callie, 2 #1 picks, for MSL who walked away after a year to retire. Add insult to injury, he demanded a trade to only us, and that’s what we gave away, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:11 pm
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        That’s a funny way to put it but yes, basically. No longer wife material but maybe cally and the rangers can still get together for a quick fling? .

        • Jul 9, 2018 at 7:31 am
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          wwpd

          Quick fling, by that you mean WE get screwed????? I still say walk away my friend!!!!!!!

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:01 pm
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    Depending on the additional assets, and yes the plural is intentional, coming our way, I think it’s a very good move.
    As Pat so correctly stated, JG is looking for character as well as skill. We need to change the culture AV allowed, either intentionally or unintentionally, permeate with this team. Character and the “intangibles” that accompany character players is sorely needed on the ice AND in the locker room. We have a young character player in Andersson. Andersson being a rookie is probably a bit away from demonstrating the level of assertiveness I believe he’ll bring. Kid wants to win at any cost. We need more of that. And it looks like we have another character player, in K’Andre Miller, albeit a couple of years away.
    So I’m good with Cally and the contract he brings, as long as he and his $5.8 per, bring additional quality along with him.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 3:54 pm
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      Jerry

      My brother, I have to disagree with your post on many points but the main being, Cally had shoulder surgery at the end of the season, and will miss at least a few months of the up coming season.

      Can we expect him to play the game the way he did before the shoulder injury, probably not, so then his effectiveness is gone. The very point you made about him “character and the intangibles” , will they be demonstrated on the bench? Sorry Tampa has to open the vault in the way of a very good return for me to take on his cap hit, and is Steve Y ready to do so? If not, find another sucker GM who is willing to bend over for the right to carry Cally’s cap hit. Just my thoughts!!!!!!!!

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 6:44 pm
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        Walt,

        The pieces coming with Cally, if it even happens at all, are more important to the Ranger’s future then Cally.
        If taking that cap hit brings future QUALITY pieces I am all for it. In my opinion it’s not about him as much as what comes along with him.

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 6:51 pm
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          Wow it took you that long to figure this out….
          Well atleast you finally get there…

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:13 pm
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          And so you would make him the Captain again?

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:07 pm
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    i think it’s about time to STOP underestimating WHAT the rangers can do next year. if you set the bar to low the players are going to feel that lower expectation AND maybe not work as hard or try their hardest. look @ vegas last year, between their coach & players they achieved something absolutely AWESOME !! so there is no reason to expect anything less from the NYR’S ( 2018/19 ) let them work & learn enough to raise the bar of their own expectations. i say say they are going to surprise !!

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:20 pm
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      Vegas had 500-1 odds to win the Cup at the start of the season. Few expected them even to make the playoffs. So using your own example I don’t think low expectations from fans and writers and bloggers is the problem. Who knows what the players expected even. But let them go out there with something to prove, and prove it if they can. Let one of our 15 point guys produce a 40 goal season out of nowhere. Let them play with speed, aggression, and cohesion all 9ver the ice, and show us who’s wrong. Until then I think low expectations are reasonable expectations from the fans. Let their coaches and leaders push them to achieve more and surprise everybody.

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 6:43 pm
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        well said

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:21 pm
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    Tampa sends Cally and Dman Dotchin to the Rangers. In return Belesky and Kampher go the other way.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 1:55 pm
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      I’m starting to think if JG can play musical chairs with his own like Zib. In return we would get apart of Tampa’s package that was suppose to go to Ottawa. I would assume that Point would need to be involved no matter what unless Ottawa’s GM is that stupid to undervalue Karlsson. These are one of those times where the Rangers could give to get but walk away 100% with a win, a window and power like this will never happen again in the Rangers favor. I would hope that JG could have Buffalo on standby or with another team looking for Cally’s service and trade him with full retention. On Ottawa’s side of the table, the Rangers would accept Bobby Ryan’s contract with some form of retention along with Jean-Gabriel Pageau. If someone like Quickie needs to go to Ottawa to make Dorion feel like he has the bigger dick in this than so be it.

      NYR would walk away with a top 6 center that can play winger, Bobby Ryan and Pageau. The only way Point gets discussed is if Dorion was doing his due diligence and soften up Yzerman. This notion would come at the expense of Ottawa getting screwed over but with Zib’s age and contract, hopefully they would bite the bullet and see use in him and his flexible contract.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 2:09 pm
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      I’m starting to think if JG can play musical chairs with his own like throw in Zib’s name than in return we would get apart of Tampa’s package. I would assume that Point would need to be involved in this no matter what, unless Ottawa’s GM is that stupid to undervalue Karlsson. These are one of those times where the Rangers could give to get but walk away with a win, a window like this will never happen again. I would hope that JG could have Buffalo on standby or to another team looking for Cally’s service and trade there him with full retention retained. On Ottawa’s side of the table, the Rangers would accept the Bobby Ryan’s contract with some form of retention by them and Jean-Gabriel Pageau included. If someone like Quickie needs to go to Ottawa to make Dorion feel like he has the bigger dick in this situation than so be it.

      NYR could walk away with a top 6 center that can play wing, Bobby Ryan and Pageau. The only way Point gets discussed is if Dorion was doing his due diligence and soften up Yzerman up until now. This notion would come at the expense Ottawa getting screwed over but with Zib’s age and contract, hopefully they would bite the bullet and see use in him and his flexible contract.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 2:26 pm
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      I’m starting to think if JG can play musical chairs with his own like throw in Zib’s name than in return we would get apart of Tampa’s package. I would assume that Point would need to be involved in this no matter what, unless Ottawa’s GM is that stupid to undervalue Karlsson. These are one of those times where the Rangers could give to get but walk away with a win, a window like this will never happen again. I would hope that JG could have Buffalo on standby or another team looking for Cally’s service and trade there with full retention retained. On Ottawa’s side of the table, the Rangers would accept the Bobby Ryan’s contract with some form of retention by them and Jean-Gabriel Pageau included. If someone like Quickie needs to go to Ottawa to make Dorion feel like he has the edge in this situation than so be it.

      This would work if Dorion was doing his due diligence to soften up Yzerman about Point. This notion would come at the expense of Ottawa getting messed over but with Zib’s age and contract, hopefully they would bite the bullet and see use in him and his flexible contract.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 3:30 pm
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    This is the New York Rangers not Leaky’s Rangers….F that BS

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 4:27 pm
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    A short deal, and at least one a first rounder plus a NHL ready, young & talented player too, then I’d be in on this too. But they really need to score assets or else walk away.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 4:33 pm
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    There is no doubt at all in my mind that Cally was the best captain the Rangers had since Mess, BUT, at this point, I really don’t think we can expect him to contribute at any more than a second line level, if that, and I really doubt that we’d find a taker to trade him to. I’d take him back only if TB includes assets/picks worth the 5.8 million per year we’ll have to pay him. I’d say that’s at least 2 of their next three first rounders, plus another SOLID asset.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:18 pm
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      That only covers Drury and jagr, and there’s a strong case to be made for jagr.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 4:34 pm
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    Barring a sweetheart deal, I’d rather see Cally eventually behind the bench before at present being behind the C.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 5:51 pm
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    I’m beginning to think this is all pie in the sky. Callahan has a NMC. Why would he waive it, to leave Tampa to come back to NY, to pay the city and state taxes and not be competing for the cup? When he’s already on a team that is close to winning. It makes no sense.

    Especially if one of the sticking points was the NMC in the first place.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 6:49 pm
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    In reference to acquiring Cally, it is strictly a business move to acquire “sweetner” assets from TB for them to get Karlsson. No hockey reason here at all.

    For Brooks to even imply that Cally should be the C here proves that he should seriously consider retirement.

    And, as it turns out, the Rangers are back in on EK buy being on the sidelines. TB can’t get a deal done because they do not have the future cap space to lock up EK long term, and since EK is being very picky as to who extends him, the Sens’ suitors are drying are up. So now the Rangers, who EK would sign an extension with, are now back to being one of the leaders of the pack.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 7:53 pm
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      Eklund at HockeyBuzz is reporting Yzerman is furious and NY and Edmonton now in the fray. NY not to be a salary dump but to bring Karlsson to NY. If Yzerman wants Karlsson he’s going to have to part with some talent he doesn’t want to part with, end of story.

      Eklund claims it’s a source he’s hearing this from while, Brooks sounded like he was floating out an idea nothing sourced from Rangers management.

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:20 pm
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        My “guys” told me yesterday that the Rangers are back in for no other reason than TB can’t get it done.

        TB trying to push Cally and crap to the Rangers to make cap space and the Rangers are obviously not biting.

        Gorton waiting it out may have pt them back in it for EK. I think Karlsson is forcing his way to the Rangers.

        Hayes, Hajek, and a #1 should do it.

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:24 pm
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          Tony

          No effing way do we give them back Hajek, Hayes, and a #1. Tell them to screw themselves, walk away from this crap deal!!!!!!!!

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:16 am
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            LOL, Walt, EK is a top 10 NHL talent.

            I repeat, Walt, my dear and good friend, EK is a top 10 NHL talent.

            • Jul 9, 2018 at 7:39 am
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              Tony

              He was a top ten talent. The key word WAS!

              Does he have an ankle injury? Yes
              Is he skating at 100%? No
              Is he a defensive liability? Yes
              Is he soft? Yes
              Will he cost an enormous amount? Yes
              Is he going to be cheap to keep, and at what term? No
              What effing good is he to us? Not very good investment my friend!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              • Jul 9, 2018 at 8:04 am
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                Read the Travis Yost article…

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:31 pm
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          Spooner, Vesey, DeAngrelo and a 1st…maybe namestnikov, Vesey and Pionk and a 1st some combination of the above…thrown in Gilmour and o’Gara if you have too…but spare parts and a first..just a bunch of them

          • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:33 pm
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            Ottawa will never take our spare parts. I don’t understand why people suggest that. You have to give something to get something.

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:17 am
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            How about this?

            Namer
            Vesey
            O’Gara
            Gropp
            Nieves
            Gilmour
            Kampfer
            DeAngelo

            That’s 8 players for 1!! How could the Sens pass this up???!!! 🙂

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 pm
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          Wow Richter, serious? I’ve spend most of the day out in the water and just read this coming in. Edmonton? Where’d they come from suddenly in this mix? Unlike some posters, I don’t mind EK here, and I think he has tons of hockey left, but on a rebuild? I don’t think so – I’d rather EDM take him and I’ll take some salary dump from them IF I can get back Evan Bouchard! He can run my power play….! 👍

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:21 am
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            Yep, the Rangers are back in because, IMO, I think that EK wants here badly and is driving the ship here.

            TB does not have the cap space to extend him beyond this year and is not willing to give up anything for a team like the Rangers to take Cally back. So, in other words, TB screwed themselves.

            Rangers back in on EK by basically doing nothing but sit back. I suspect that Gorton does this deal under his terms so who knows what they can give up without mortgaging the farm here.

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:24 pm
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          No no please tell your guys to tell those guys to stay the heck away from Karlsson!

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:22 am
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            LOL, Why? He’s a top 10 NHL player my friend.

            It’s not like the Rangers have any one like that, lol.

            • Jul 9, 2018 at 10:02 am
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              Paying up long term for an offensive defenseman on the down side of his career, with lingering injury issues to boot, who does not play a physical game, does not feel like the right play here. Wait a year, see what we have in the current prospect pool, and then if we’re poised to really perform, hire next summer’s flashy top 10 bauble instead.

              • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:07 pm
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                Why is he the downside of his career?

                He lost games due to injury last year and still would have been our leading scorer.

    • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:21 pm
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      Tony

      I hope the hell we aren’t going after his guy, PLEASE.

      Currently skating at about 85% of his past, bad Achilles’s heel, soft as Carvel ice cream, can’t defend worth a squat, so what’s the reason for us to get him? He will be in a decline big time within the next year, or two What the hell are they smoking?????????????? Oh I forgot, he’s Hanks friend!!!!!

      • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:47 pm
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        As I think about it more Walt. The only guy we signed in free agency was Claesson. Seems like a real nothing day. Almost to “real nothing”. But he played a lot of his time on the ice with Karlsson last season. Not even a bottom 6 forward. No trades at the draft other than some pics, no trades since Free agency. I get that we are rebuilding, but we have been talking about needing veteran leadership and elite talent. It all starts to make me wonder if maybe they are going after him…I hear you in his heel issue. In spite of that he still had 62 points 71…he was -25…

        Just saying…it’s a hot boring day in the middle of July…

        • Jul 8, 2018 at 8:54 pm
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          Andy

          Hot boring day in July, but what are they thinking?

          JG said he wants a team that is tough to play against, this cupcake is the softest guy in the whole of the NHL, runs 180 degrees counter to what they were preaching.

          Why would they want him I ask, just for a marquee name, who isn’t helping us down the road, and may cost a fortune to get, and will demand some 9-11 mil for seven years. This is just sickening……….

          • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:08 pm
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            Walt I have no idea what is going to happen. But it’s a slow day. Brooks floats the idea in the Post. Eklund sources it at Hockey Buzz. Nothing is done yet with Tampa who were supposedly all set and waiting for league approval a couple of days ago. I am not saying it’s going to happen or should happen, but I am certainly beginning to wonder if that is part of the rebuild plan.

            • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:27 am
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              I got this on Saturday from my guys way before the other 2 knuckleheads reported it.

              I was at a conference all weekend and could not post this.

              But I think the interest on the Rangers’ part is very real. Ottawa may have to take the best offer at this point. EK won’t play there, for sure.

      • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:24 am
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        Walt, go read Travis Yost on TSN, he wrote a whole article on EK showing how he is not close to declining.

        Go read that article and come back to me on this. EK is a top 10 player and with the way he plays will last a heck of a lot longer than Doughty.

        It will be a brutal contract, but I think he would be worth it. Add Panarin and we are a contender next year.

        • Jul 9, 2018 at 7:51 am
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          Hey tony,

          I can’t see how we could fit him and if we went after Panarin next season, under the cap. Wouldn’t it be too much on the books? Could be close to $18-19 mill tied up in two players, and that’s not counting Hank.

          But if your proposal is what is best for Ottawa, I think I’d pull the trigger. Hayes, Hajek and a #1 … it feels like it’s kinda how the Yankees got Giancarlo. He was in the drivers seat and kind of forced his way out to where he wanted to go and Miami had to take whatever offer the Yankees made.

          I personally would want us to wait and bid on Seguin next offseason but I dunno if he’s gonna make it to free agency. I think I saw on nhl network that they’re in discussions on a new contract, nothing concrete obviously. But it’s not like he saying he wants out of Dallas.

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 7:59 am
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            Ditto!!!!!!

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 8:13 am
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            Hey Dan, you are correct about next year’s FAs, the Rangers are locked in Panarin and Sequin, for sure.

            The plan is to get a top D man (Karlsson or Trouba, the Rangers prefer Trouba BTW, but EK may be easier to acquire) and a top scorer like Panarin or Seguin (the Gorton connection with Seguin).

            That’s why I believe that Hayes HAS to be included in any deal for a D man, whether it’s Karlsson or Trouba to save on cap space for next year, because the Rangers are definitely loading up for next year’s UFAs. 100%.

            • Jul 9, 2018 at 9:41 am
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              you can keep Hayes and Zib this year. Let Chytil, Anderson and Howden get their feet wet. And look to move Hayes and/or Zib over the next 2 seasons. For 18-19 the cap hit on Karlsson is $6.5mill. Also buy out Staal after next season frees up space. You can fit Karlsson and Panarin if you get creative. And Zucc’s contract is over and Kravtsov may be able to head over here late next year. You rolling the dice with the young kids, but isn’t that been the plan?

              Here’s another thing with Tampa. If they sign Karlsson and give him and NMC they have to protect, Hedman. Karlsson and McD due to NMC’s…they will lose Sergachev in expansion draft so they will be forced to trade him which they clearly don’t seem to want to do. the 4x4x1 draft route is actually worse for them because of the NMC’s for their forwards.

              I also think Namestnikov would go in a trade. I did think it was odd he was the first RFA signed considering how last season ended for him. And they made a point of saying they did not sign him to trade him. Isn’t that the kiss of death? And Ottawa knows how much he will cost for the next 2 seasons.

              I would rather have Trouba. But getting Karlsson is a Ranger thing. Leopards never change their spots

              • Jul 9, 2018 at 6:10 pm
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                The only issue is that Hayes’ trade value is vert high right now, which it means that after next season it could be higher, but it also can be lower.

                And if Hayes is getting 5-6 years, then he may want some sort of modified contract that will also hinder his trade availability.

        • Jul 9, 2018 at 7:57 am
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          Tony

          “Ottawa and Karlsson are at impasse and separation is imminent, and teams may be concerned about his performance and longevity after an invasive ankle surgery.”

          Yost just proved my point in his article. Teams are worried due to EK’s injury, and the fact that he was -20 on the season also proves what I said, he can’t defend. What good is a guy who scores 60 points, but gives up 80 against?

          Now are you willing to give away two roster players, and a #1 pick with this lurking in the background? Are you willing to pay him from 9-11 million per season, for some seven seasons? Just what exactly have we learned from the Reddon, Girardi, Staal contracts? This is insane to even have this discussion. I wouldn’t walk away, I’d run like hell away from him!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Jul 9, 2018 at 8:24 am
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            Walt, I get that it’s a risk, but I also would think that the Rangers would do their due diligence.

            Players like this are not available very often and I have to admit that I am not 100% on board with it, but I suspect that Dolan is going to get in on this if they truly have the opportunity, which it appears like they do.

            DON’T BE SCARED!! LOL

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 7:44 pm
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    Time to start a new NYR culture. It is not 2013 anymore. Cally had his chance and left. I respect and understand his need to max out $.

    He is part of the past. He is not the future. He is broken down and will not play for 5 months.

    He is a 4th liner who scored 10/2/4 goals the last 3 years. Should we take our crazy pills now?

    I am sorry I read this insipid article and wasted 2 minuted posting this message.

    Good night.

  • Jul 8, 2018 at 9:08 pm
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    Walt I have no idea what is going to happen. But it’s a slow day. Brooks floats the idea in the Post. Eklund sources it at Hockey Buzz. Nothing is done yet with Tampa who were supposedly all set and waiting for league approval a couple of days ago. I am not saying it’s going to happen or should happen, but I am certainly beginning to wonder if that is part of the rebuild plan.

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