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Happy Draft Day, BSB faithful! After a long and arduous run since the announcement of the re-build/tool/et al, all eyes are on the NHL Draft.  This is the first year in a long, long time that the decisions made by the organization will have such a profound effect on the future of the team.  Sure, we have all cared about the selections made in the past, but most of the focus was on trades and improving the team to contend for the Cup.  There are several layers that make this particular Draft one of the most intriguing events in recent years.  Let’s take a look at what is at stake this evening…

First, one of the deepest Drafts we have seen in a while happens to coincide with a surprisingly public declaration of rebuilding by the organization.  A frustrated fan base watched with baited breath as rental players and franchise cornerstones alike were sold off for futures in anticipation of this event.  The Rangers own three first round picks this year and five in the top 48.  They have fresh new assets from which to deal and a ton of cap space, to boot.  There are endless options and while the organization has made it clear a change was necessary, we don’t have a great idea of how that will manifest itself.

One of the more interesting aspects to this Draft is the evolution of publicly available (and digestible) information about amateur players. With analysts such as our own Josh Khaflin, Corey Pronman, AJ Nunn and others providing incredible insight and information about this year’s crop of young players, most fans are much more informed (and opinionated!) than in seasons past.  This helps ratchet up the anticipation and will certainly double down on the criticisms if the organization drops the ball on this opportunity.

Additionally, we have a truly wide open top 10 in this Draft.  Due to the aforementioned depth, there is no question there will be a potentially game changing player available to the Rangers at #9, but no one can really agree on who that will be.  Outside of Rasmus Dahlin, there is no consensus on the pecking order of the rest of the field.  Brady Tkachuk and Jesperi Kotkaniemi have wreaked havoc on the most recent mock drafts and the smoke surrounding the possible trades of the numbers 2, 3 and 10 picks have done a number on the reliability of sources throughout the league.

Now, make no mistake, I am pro-chaos.  NHL GM’s have proven time and time again to possess a level of poor judgment rarely seen in pro sports.  Marc Bergevin, Pierre Dorion and Peter Chiarelli, in particular.  Ironically enough, they hold the 3, 4 and 10 picks in this Draft.  It could get fun.  It could be trades, it could be off the board picks.  Either way, I think injecting that little extra sense of unpredictability makes this whole thing undoubtedly more captivating.

As for the Rangers, I am most interested to see how their amorphous organizational strategy manifests itself.  The difficulty is analyzing these results is that they are often non-linear.  They are opportunity based and vary at the whims of their front office counterparts.  The organization could very well be planning on a pretty complete rebuild, but all of a sudden an opportunity falls into their laps and the plans change.  Unfortunately, we rarely, if ever, are given the context to certain decisions or the other opportunities that were passed up.  Hopefully, whatever the team decides to do will help usher in a clear state of things and the level of competitiveness we can expect in the near term.  It would be a mistake to have jumbled mess of objectives resulting in mediocrity.

That isn’t to say that you can’t have a blend of different types of players/contracts/ages, etc., and still have a clear vision.  As many people in the media and fan circles have pointed out, cap space can be used as an asset.  The biggest theme I want to see from the front office is efficient and value driven asset management.  The Rangers are sitting on a lot of assets right now; many of which are not ingredients to the next contending team.  Leveraging these players and picks appropriately to infuse the type of talent the organization needs to begin to shape a contender is critical.

There are several moving parts to this concept that will be fascinating to follow.  The Rangers have a ton of center depth, but outside of Filip Chytil, none really project to be that elite centerman that all Cup winners tend to be built around.  I believe Mika Zibanejad is a statistical 1C, but I think we would all feel better if he was in the 2C position.  The Rangers have some dead weight on defense between Marc Staal and Brendan Smith.  Is a young RD a priority to pair with Brady Skjei or Kevin Shattenkirk?  What about all the RFA’s? Does Kevin Hayes really carry enough value to headline a package for a top 5 pick or Dougie Hamilton?

The future of the veterans is in play, as well.  Larry Brooks indicated that he expects Mats Zuccarello to remain with the team next season. However, if he was the ask for another top 10 pick, are the Rangers really saying no? Would a contender in need of power play help look to pluck Shattenkirk? In the event that the best course of action truly takes the NHL roster down to the studs, does Henrik Lundqvist change his mind about seeing out a tough couple years?

That is ultimately the craziest thing.  Pretty much every moving part imaginable is in play for the Rangers.  This Draft (and the trades, signings, etc., that surround it) could chart the course of this franchise for the next decade.  Last year, the Rangers went off the board with the #7 pick to acquire a (comparatively) safe selection in Lias Andersson while they swung for the fences with Chytil.  I don’t necessarily see the organization going down that road again. There are 8-10 players in this Draft that would be top 5 players in most others.  I would be blown away if the Rangers really went off the board at 9.

At the end of this evening, the Rangers’ organizational path should be much clearer than at any point this season.  There are going to be varying opinions on the appropriate depths of the rebuild, but I’m really just hoping to see a clear and executable organizational vision that will make me feel like the team has a timeline and should be able to ramp back to competitiveness in relatively short order.  It’s going to be a fun night.

Keep it locked right here to BSB for Draft analysis and coverage.  Dave will be posting a Draft Open Thread later today, and we will try to update all the goings on as quickly as possible to keep everyone informed. In the meantime, feel free to vent your pre-Draft anxiety here with your Draft wish-lists, trade scenarios, organizational visions, etc.  Enjoy the Draft everyone!

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97 comments

  1. Richter1994 says:

    Buckle up Ranger fans. For bad or for good, this offseason, starting today, will shape the next 3 year’s direction of the team.

    Having draft picks, young assets, and cap space, for the first time in Ranger history, the organization has the rare opportunity to make this team an annual contender. Or fall right on its face and set the franchise back for years.

    I have faith in Gorton and Quinn, who evidently has major say in personnel, to right the ship.

    Enjoy all and LGR!!

    • James1090 says:

      Lets hope they draft the best available and not sleeper picks in the 1st round. Save those sleepers for the later rounds.

      • Richter1994 says:

        I really think that Gorton is going to do well with this draft.

        Originally, guys like Kovy and Karlsson were the “buzz.” But what I have learned is that it has to be on the Rangers’ terms and therefore they both are probably out, unless things change, which is what we all want, efficient and smart management.

        The one thing I will say about Karlsson is that he “could” force his way to the Rangers. He really wants to play with Henrik, but Gorton is standing tall and not resisting temptation.

        It’s a new era in Rangertown.

        • Leatherneck says:

          Then Lundqvist can waive and go play in Ottawa….not Karlsson here in NY. We need to end this boys club mentality here….it cost us a ravaged time with St Louis coming over

          No thanks

          • Richter1994 says:

            Love you bro, but you have to give it up.

            Like “fetch”, the King leaving NY is never happening. If it did then it would have happened during this past trade deadline as the Rangers asked him and he said “NO.”

            • Leatherneck says:

              My point is The Rangers shouldn’t give a damn what Karlsson wants…Rangers should stick to building a team and depth not appease a player.

              Say what you want but St Louis trade ranks right up there with Middleton,

              • Richter1994 says:

                Without MSL we do not make the SCF, so that comparison is not correct.

              • Chris A says:

                Leather, have you seen what TB did with what they got from the MSL trade?

                They signed a crippled grinder, Callahan, to a cap killing deal. A deal that is forcing the great Stevie Y to trade away JT Miller due to a lack of cap space this summer.

                Then TB traded away the two picks NY sent to TB along with Callahan. The Isles got both those picks in separate deals and took Josh Ho-Sang and Anthony Beauvillier with those two picks. It’s not like the Rangers missed out Laine and McDavid.

                So, the Rangers surrendered a middle six forward and a guy that is a headcase and might never make it as an NHLer, for a trip to the finals … I’d make that deal every day.

              • Richter1994 says:

                Exactly Chris

              • Leatherneck says:

                Hiya Chris A

                It’s not so much about what Tampa did or didn’t do, it is more about all the depth we lost

                Bouvellier I like, a lot. good player

                St Louis to me was a bust, SCF appearance granted….exciting but overall it was a failure. In that time frame we lost Stralman, Boyle, Yandle, Callahan literally for nothing, a club can not be successful with that type of loss of assets.

              • Chris A says:

                Well, Leather, that’s not what you said. You compared the MSL trade with the infamous Rick Middleton trade.

                The Rangers most assuredly did not lose Callahan for nothing, we are discussing the MSL trade, aren’t we?

                Stralman? Huge whopper of a mistake, 100% agreed. He was at the right age, 28, to sign to a 4 year deal. TB was a bit overconfident and gave him an extra year.

                Boyle and Yandle, meh. I said it the other day re: Hagelin, not every asset can be flipped. Sometimes you have to take the utility you get from having that player play through to the end of their contract. The Rangers got that utility from Boyle and Yandle and then let them walk. When you’re a contender, that’s what you have to do. If you keep flipping expiring contracts to other contenders, you’re likely never going to win a Cup.

                And, yes, Beauvillier is a decent player, but he’s just a middle 6 guy. Nothing special. If anything, the Rangers have too many middle 6 types as is.

              • Swarty says:

                Leather – your point about losing Boyle, Stralman and Yandle without even a conversation is right on. Throw in the Dan Boyle signing, and the ludicrous contracts for Stahl and GirardI and you have the unfortunate evidence of a Sather-led front-office with a horrible talent evaluation aptitude.

                Trading for Eric Stahl was a complete waste of assets given the need for defense and how his addition affected AVs overall forward deployment. That one is on Gorts but has Sather’s fingerprints all over it.

                I’m with Richter on the MSL trade but IMO we overpaid big time.

                I am going in to tonight optimistically but everyone in the front office including Sather, Gorts, and Gordie should be officially on notice with a very short leash.

                This is one of the most critical times in recent Ranger history and they seem well positioned to come out of this much better but we cannot afford a miss of any kind in the first two rounds.

            • Pas44 says:

              Like “fetch”

              someone pick me up off the floor from laughing at that one please!

              LGR!!!!!!!!

    • Jeff says:

      I have more faith in Gorton and Clark. They have seen the Canadien Junior ranks, have reviewed real time scouting reports and seen the international players as well as the USHL. No disrespect to coach Quinn, but I wouldn’t give him that much say in this draft, maybe next years. Quinn coached college this year and probably knows the NCAA ranks from relationships and those players he has seen, perhaps on a regular basis. I wonder if his grasp of the whole array of options is up where JG, GC and C Drury is.
      LGR!

    • Ray says:

      Agree the draft is important, but I don’t think it is quite so short term critical. I see the Rangers trying to draft the best players in the long run and, unlike last year, ignoring readiness. I just don’t see it as a big deal for the next year or two. [But yes, very important for the next decade]

      I believe Gorton et al have several plans to compete seriously next year. One or more of these plans may involve signing Kovalchuk (or Tavares). Some may involve a Karlsson or Trouba trade. I think the next 3 years will be shaped by whether or not JG can initiate one of these plans.

      In theory, all of the plans include accumulating a strong stable of prospects. And so none may be practical. But I personally think, unless we see some big trades tonight, that we will not know much more about the 2018-2019 Rangers than we do now.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Regardless of what the media says, Kovy is still very much in play for the Rangers. He wants to play for them and they are trying to work something out outside of a player contract, for when he retires.

        Make no mistake, they want to make the playoffs next year. Trouba is a big target too and has been for the Rangers for a very long time.

    • Carlos says:

      Oh happy day!

  2. SalMerc says:

    Look for anything but a normal draft 1-15 spots. Moves & Cap space will rule the evening. Wondering if they want to give Quinn a level of comfort by moving up and getting Tkachuk for him. Still think Detroit will somehow be in the mix tonight.

  3. amy herman says:

    I do have confidence in Gorton and Quinn they want to do the right thing to make this team better and go back to the playoffs I can see a few moves tonight but more tomorrow we will see see you tonight

  4. Walt says:

    By the end of the evening, we will know what to expect for the immediate future. I would be a happy camper if we get any two of the following:

    Tkachuk, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Bauchard, Hayton, Valeno, and the list goes on. I feel like a kid at a candy store, which candy should I go for first. The best case scenario would be a forward, and a right d-man in the first round. If that happens, we should all be very happy that many of our needs are met. I’d be working the phone with the Oilers, try like hell to get the 10th pick just so we get the required players needed for this draft to be a huge success!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tomorrow’s selections will only be the icing on the cake as far as I’m concerned. Once we see who we got, then we pursue the necessary pieces on the UFA, and or trade route to get a decent roster so we could be an entertaining product on the ice. LGR!!!!!!!!!! Here’s to a great draft……….

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      I have u the one thumbs up 👍🏻 … lol … it’s all good

    • Bloomer says:

      Good post Walt…not sure about all the thumbs down. Guess the hockey tards are out early today.

      • Walt says:

        That’s the 3 stooges, and their side kicks, the fan club.
        Every word I put out there is so controversial isn’t it?
        Let’s the Rainmen have their fun!!!!!!!! Where Judge Whoppner???

    • Richter1994 says:

      If we get Wahlstrom or even Zadina some how, I would be thrilled.

  5. Reenavipul says:

    If you’re looking for a young RD to pair with Skjei, you’re looking in the wrong place. Not that there aren’t D in this draft, just that most of them besides Dahlin & Bouchard are years away from the NHL.

  6. joe cafardo says:

    Whatever we do….please….do not let the contagion that exists in MSG and the Knicks front office contaminate the Rangers draft board.

  7. BOBBY B says:

    GOOD LUCK Gorton & Quinn ( Lord knows we need it) at least we are in a position to improve ourselves, for the first time in a very long time!. I do feel that the Islanders have already stolen most of the thunder , first they get Lou Lomoriello to run the show, hire Barry Trotz as the head coach, signing Taveras to a long term deal is next!

    • Walt says:

      That’s all good news, now it’s our tern to get the front page headlines!!!!!!

    • Carlos says:

      And we care about their “thunder” because….? And Pat, Im here! Where are you??👍

  8. Rod Seilings' Twilight Zone says:

    Gorton has SO many cards to play – a bevy of picks, cap space to take on a contract, more young organizational depth than we’ve had in a while, some solid roster players we can afford to lose, etc.

    I think the biggest surprise will be if Gorton stays pat at 9, 26 & 28. If Gorton’s priority is Tkachuck, Wahlstrom or Zadina he may move up. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we wind up with two picks in the top 10. We need elite talent more than depth.

    LGR!

  9. 1994 ever says:

    I hope I am wrong but Gorton has not blown me away recently with his moves:
    1. Lias at #7. All the draft boards had him at #12 or well above. A reach?
    2. Stepan trade: DeAngelo?
    3. Nash trade: Does Spooner/Matt B/Ryan L excite anyone? 1st rounder is fine but it is very late.
    4. Tampa trade: Hopefully Hajek/Howden are the real deal but they are viewed as complementary pieces. Gave up on JT way too quick. Namestikov did not impress me. 1st round pick is very late again…
    5. Brendan Smith signing: I liked it but man that has not worked out…

    Let’s hope he goes on a winning streak now…

    • Reenavipul says:

      The Nash trade was a screaming deal for the Rangers. Pick/solid prospect/NHLer for an expiring contract on a team going nowhere?

      I’d do a deal like that 8 days a week. Then again, I’d be fired if I had that many expiring contracts.

    • Richter1994 says:

      Admittedly I have said that I would have preferred Mittlstadt over Andersson, but my friend reminds me that Andersson outplayed him in the recent “Worlds.” So we need to sit tight on this one.

      My “guys” tell me that Lindgren and Howden will be “fan favorites.” That’s a direct quote from them who have “sources.”

      We’ll see…

      But one thing is for sure, Gorton is now in FULL control.

      • Rod Seilings' Twilight Zone says:

        It also looks like Andersson’s reputation as a leader was a factor in his selection.

        • Richter1994 says:

          2 things, he was NHL ready and the Rangers see him as a potential A or even Captain.

          • Peter says:

            If Andersson cracks the lineup, then we will know much more about his potential by about January. I think that the kid has the fire necessary to be a great competitor and a high hockey IQ. We’ll see how much skill he actually has when he is playing with the big boys.

            • Mintgecko says:

              Fire to compete doesn’t mean that he will be a building block for the top 9. Just by judging him right now could mean he drops in the depth chart per move like with Howden right now. Catcillo and Dorsett brought tons of fire to compete and good two-way games to make this team look deep. Btw he looked a lot smaller for his size which could mean injury prone. Right now as it stands he’s suppose to be a better Jesper Fast with more of a edge to him. If Fast played center than I wouldn’t even rank Andersson ahead of him. There’s room to add him on the PK barring any trades for bottom 6 player’s. He would have to earn his keep for that job and for future top 9 considerations.

              • Peter says:

                Nowhere did I say that fire was all that he needs. What I said is that at the moment we don’t know enough about his skills at the NHL level, but if he gets to play we will find out. I think your rankings are probably based on insufficient data.

            • Richter1994 says:

              Short of injury to either, pencil in both Chytil and Andersson into the Rangers’ opening night line up Peter.

        • Reenavipul says:

          2nd line C on a league championship team at 17 is nothing to sneeze at.

    • RagsFan says:

      Gorton only good move was Zib trade. Everything else below average.

  10. Andy says:

    I feel like a kid waiting for Santa to come with some new toys. Going to be a very interesting day. And i feel good about where we are. I know next year or 2 may be tough, but there are so many good pieces in this draft and so many good players being shopped(or allegedly being shopped) As much as we look at The Rangers all the other teams in the league seem to be talking about business. Let’s hope the action starts soon.

    I do love all the rumors floating around. My favorite from Monteal this morning was trade the #3 to the Rangers for #9 and #26…done…If we end up trading Hayes I really hope it’s for someone like Trouba. Not to high on Dougie Hamilton. Boston shipped him out and there’s been rumblings out of Calgary about shipping him out on and off for a while.

    As for the rebuild, they brought Quinn in for a specific reason. Develop young talent. I do have a hard time seeing them chasing a lot of veterans at this point. I think they’ll trade to fill a need and give up pieces they think they can replace through the draft. If something big comes up I won’t be surprised to see them chase it.

    As you state. Lots of options. Options we have not had for years. Welcome to the unknown and draft well!

  11. Five Hole says:

    My prediction for the 9th pick, in typical Ranger fashion, is Quinton Hughes, yet another small defenseman who can move the puck, but probably doesn’t hit worth a damn.

    • cthockeyman says:

      Would be thrilled if we got either Hughes or Wahlstrom at #9. They both stood out at the WJC and hope they fall to us because both likely to play in the NCAA this season.

    • Richter1994 says:

      we should be so lucky. he was a stud for the US team.

    • Egelstein says:

      Pssssst…hits have no tangible correlation to the outcome of hockey games. MTL (71 pts.) led the league in hits in the regular season with 2169, 385 more than WAS (105 pts., Stanley Cup) and 513 more than NSH (117 pts., President’s Cup).

      • Ray says:

        Curiosity. Do you get different numbers if you only track first period hits? Late game hits are often situation-related and trailing teams hit more. Early game hits set the tone. And they also wear some guys out. Naively, I would expect early hits to track winning and late hits to track losing. (not necessarily strong correlations)

        You are too young to remember this, but in the 1970s, a Russian all-star team came over and beat a bunch of NHL teams. But when they played the Flyers, all the Flyers did for the first period or two was hit. Then, in the third, when the Russians were looking around to see who was going to hit them next, they put some pucks in the net.

        • Five Hole says:

          I guess you all are right on this. We never complain how teams are camped out in front of Lundqvist because our boys are always physical throwing their bodies around keeping a nice clean crease. Excuse my ignorance and let’s keep drafting the smurfs!

          I’m not looking for a McIlraith type, but if they’re going to draft another smooth skating, puck carrying D-man, who is gonna do the dirty work?

        • Egelstein says:

          Cool one game story. I can probably find you a game where a team threw less than 10 hits and won handily. One game instances can go either way.

          1970’s hockey is dead. Sorry, I know you are a big fan.

          If anyone out there separates hits by period, I’m not aware of that source.

          • Reenavipul says:

            If SAP didn’t suck, you could actually search this and find out either way b

        • Walt says:

          Ray

          And they called Filthadelphia a bunch of hoodlums, LOL!

          Great series because they refused to come out to play the third, and Ed Snyder said you won’t get paid if they didn’t, so they did, very sheepishly. That was just great!!!!!!!

      • Mintgecko says:

        Not true at all… There’s a real time psychosis that lingers if you show your opponents that you like to get down by throwing your weight around. Depending on the skill to finish your chances or punch back is usually the decider vote.

        The Bruins 2011 champs had the reverse psychology in that series against the Nucs. Most fair weather fans acted like Vancouver didn’t want any part of them but imo they really wanted to exchange blows so instead they chased the Bruins around while getting punched in the mouth all series long. AV should have had his name on the Stanley cup by now after that season. Teams like Tampa and MTL were the opposite from those finals, after games 1 and 2 you could tell they were scared. I’ve never seen Steve Downie so intimidated before he had to face that bruising Bruins team.

        I’m sorry but I’m convinced that people who act like physical intimidation is not a thing in the game of hockey have either never played or don’t watch enough of it. Hell even in football the Ravens back in the day were scary to play against and I’ve noticed the same thing happened when teams had to go against the Seahawks. Some people like to do dangerous stunts like jumping off a bridge to feel alive. Well in contact sports, teams who liked to induce physical pain will wake you up like a air horn in the morning per hit while they walk all over your most skilled players.

        It’s why I don’t play pond hockey or in beer leagues because there’s never any contact allowed. Btw you’re also forgetting that MTL sucked, had no top 9 centers and goalie problems with more problems on the bench.

        • Egelstein says:

          Your final sentence is absolutely perfect for my argument. Hit all you want – if you don’t have the skill in today’s game, it doesn’t matter.

          I didn’t say physical intimidation isn’t any factor at all in hockey. I said hits have been proven time and time again to not correlate to the outcome, then I gave you a perfect large-sample look at how two physical teams – WAS and NSH – were handily-out hit by MTL over that large sample.

          The lengths to which some folks will go to try and disprove numbers that don’t fit their narratives astounds me sometimes.

      • Leatherneck says:

        Tell that to the Vegas Golden Knights who simply disappeared after the Wilson hit on Marrschersault. That Neal gaffe had a lot to do with rushing his shot because time after time they got hit,,,,yup,,,hits matter

        • Egelstein says:

          Not if you don’t have the requisite skills to execute outside of hitting, they don’t.

          • Egelstein says:

            Okay, now you’re just being trolls, folks. Are people seriously taking issue with the statement that hits alone do not win hockey games?

  12. Al Hirschen says:

    TSN radio from Edmonton 1260 is saying the Rangers are heavy after Milan Lucic

    • Mintgecko says:

      I really hope we do a big package with Staal at full retention and Skjei involved. Take on Lucic’s contract but we add Zib and Vladdy for Leon and the 10th pick. If they wanted to dump Kassian than JG should take that, he stopped competing for them since early February.

    • Egelstein says:

      I hope TSN radio from Edmonton 1260 mixed up “Lucic” and “Draisaitl”.

  13. Larry says:

    I have a very cautious “wait and see” attitude toward tonight’s draft. Last year this NYR regime selected Lias Andersson who is potentially a 3rd line C in NHL at #7,1st round, it does not give me much confidence in their draft abilities.
    .

  14. Reenavipul says:

    BTW, not a deep draft. Probably would have to go to 2012 to find a worse one.

    • Egelstein says:

      Can’t tell how deep a draft was until 3-5 years later. That said, I’ll more than give you props if this turns out to be the case. You’re the only person I’m seeing make such claims.

      • Reenavipul says:

        Pronman has it as average, which is bad.

        • Czech!!! says:

          Pronman said it was a good draft just last week on the radio. His is but one opinion. The vast majority of draft experts and others have all called this an extremely deep draft with 1st round talent available into the early 3rd round.

          • Reenavipul says:

            Quite from his top 74 ranking

            “The 2018 draft class is an average draft class. At the top of the class, a bulk of the talent is in defensemen, with very few centers. The top prospect is a legit first overall talent, with the next tier being a reasonable bunch of players for the top five but none who stand out as exceptional for that range. The talent level is solid but there’s more risk than usual.”

          • Reenavipul says:

            After you get to 20, there are players who could be picked anywhere from 21 to the 3rd round, but that says more about the scouting process than the quality of the pool, let alone depth.

            • Ray says:

              Reena, you mentioned in another thread that the Rangers had qualified all RFAs and I asked if that meant all on the Ranger roster — or literally all eleven of them, including those playing at Hartford. Brett Cyrgalis quotes Gorton that he qualified ten of eleven, all but Tambellini.

              I must say keeping Fogarty surprised me.

              • Reenavipul says:

                They’re just so short of bodies that they needed to keep him, if only for another year. Got better production as the season went on with more ice time, solid two way game, NHL body.

                As an injury call up who you expect to get you maybe 10 goals, he’s a serviceable replacement level player.

          • Reenavipul says:

            I’ve been following prospects for 25 years back when you had to call junior teams PR people on mondays to compile stats on prospects *in the organization* along with draft eligbles. Been watching draft eligibles live since 1991.

            There is so much group think in hockey scouting as scouts share stories over beers after a game. They all dress the same.

            I get it. Even if you have a small region to cover, you wind up accumulating all sorts of biases on live views, even worse ones on video. And when they ask you to look at player X off video from Europe it’s even worse.

            Their problem is co-mingling of info during the season. If I’m GM, I want my info siloed, with crosscheckrs only told to cover a set of games, my scouts not communicating with each other at all in season besides personal biz. All reports go to GM/AGM/DirSouting. I want stat nerds quantifying league rating coefficients annually

            I want each scout to draw up a personal list turned in to GM/AGM, then have master list compiled by GM/AGM/DirScouting and releaed internally after the draft so you can do a collective post mortem.

    • Ray says:

      I have no idea whether you are right or not, but human nature leads us to believe that drafts that we are really paying attention to are deeper than ones where we have no picks.

  15. HARLEMBLUES says:

    If the Rangers trade up it better be for the first overall otherwise stay put.
    I like the Fin kid Jesper K. at 9.
    Karlsson can stay in Ottawa for all I care.
    Lucid can stay
    wherever he is also.
    At the end of the day the Rangers better not add anyone over 22 to the roster.

  16. Egelstein says:

    Per Complete Hockey News on Facebook, Kovy down to Bruins/Kings/Sharks/Knights. If true, those who were wringing their hands about that can sigh in relief (and CHN rarely is wrong about things when they post them in confidence, to note).

    • Reenavipul says:

      Not shedding any tears in this part of Rangerstown.

      • Egelstein says:

        I frankly didn’t care a ton either way, so long as it was no more than two years and not PPG player type money for those two years. No tears shed here either, for sure. I’ve read chatter that he is looking for three years, so perhaps that’s where Gorton put his foot down also. Although, after I posted this I saw Brooks also tweeted out that NY may not be completely out of the discussion, for what that’s worth.

  17. avsucks says:

    Hope its a really good day for the rangers, I want a Dman who can finnish his checks.

  18. Emile the Cat says:

    I have sneaking suspicion (as do a lot of us) that the Rangers are going to pull off something really big…. something tantamount to the Barry Beck trade back in the day, hopefully with better results, though at the time I thought that trade was phenomenal. Cap space, draft picks and other chips have this team in the driver’s seat. Please play your cards perfectly, Mr. Gorton. You can do it, i believe!

    • Reenavipul says:

      Too early in the process. You have to build a logjam of NHL ready assets to swing deals like that, the team will struggle to have 22 NHL ready players this year.

      • Emile the Cat says:

        You don’t think this is a perfect storm for a major move on the Ranger’s part? When will this team have ALL the pieces in place for such a “blockbuster”? It’s just a feeling I have because it seems, to me, to be a rare situation. We will see.

        • Reenavipul says:

          Somehow the Devils did it all the time when they had 24 players for 23 jobs and 3 ready pros in the minors. That’s why when they were winning cups they had *50* drafted & developed players in the NHL at one point.

          I’m not sure even the Canadiens had numbers like that under Pollock in the 70’s

          The times are indeed rare to do it.

          When you have an almost solid roster (with a top 6 /top pair hole and you don’t want to slide player x up the pecking order) with 2-3 ready to graduate, you do do a roster/prospect/pick deal.

  19. Reenavipul says:

    According to the Hockey News, Boqvist had another concussion 2 years ago?

    • Bloomer says:

      Boqvist ranking is dropping, I will be surprised to see him picked in the top ten. His defensive game is brutal.

      • Reenavipul says:

        Preaching to the choir, but 3x concussions in 2 years would put him on no draft list for me.

        The truly strange things is that he’s a coach’s kid. So either:

        A: He can’t be taught the position
        B: He doesn’t give a shit in J20

        Either one is bad, but the latter is worse. Short of shipping him off to Parris, how do you break habits/attitudes like that?