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2018 NHL Draft Profiles: Martin Kaut, Adam Ginning, Rasmus Kupari

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46 comments

  1. ManUtdTobbe says:

    posologie anafranil 10 mg Adam Ginning in the top 62 (even the top 93) would be a disaster imo, he’s much closer to a pylon then a complete defensive package. He’s far from a good skater and he doesn’t Think defense all that well and he has virtually no offense at all. Playing with Ginning last spring probably cost Liljegren atleast 5-6 spots in the draft because he was such an insane anchor all spring in the Sweden U18, both five nations and Worlds.

    • Mancunian Candidate says:

      source link Ginning seems like he could be the reincarnation of Christian Backman.

      • ManUtdTobbe says:

        entocort 5mg tabletten I don’t see that comparison, Bäckman was a solid skater with some decent offensive Tools.

        • Mancunian Candidate says:

          I didn’t think Backman skated well, defended well, passed well, or handled the puck well. Despite being touted as having offensive skills, he panicked with the puck on his stick. Your description of Ginning as a player who didn’t really do anything well made me think of Backman.

    • Reenavipul says:

      So bad a player he somehow played with the National U18 as a 16 yr old and got regular minutes.

      So bad a player he played with the men’s side more often than not and they played him last 5 minutes of games.

      The jeopardy answer: what couldn’t Adam Boqvist do?

      Ginning is a low event minute eater. Ceiling is 1st pair stay at home, most likely 2nd pair. A bit of a stretch at the end of the 1st round, but he’ll make the NHL well before Boqvist.

      Liljegren was done in by mono cost him a ton of weight and development time, somehow was -5 compared to Ginning’s -2 at the same tourney while paired together.

      Must’ve been a lot of empty nets or shorties given up.

  2. Walt says:

    What might hold Ginning back is that outside of his skating and big frame, the rest of his game is relatively average. He’s not the greatest shooter. He doesn’t have the vision of a Boqvist or a Hughes, and he certainly doesn’t have that much of an offensive mind. If we are using traditional terms, then shutdown defender is what comes to mind. Ginning might be the best one in the draft too.

    We have more than enough offensive d-men, this kid could be a nice addition if available. Let’s face it, the defense was our Achilles heel, and that is the main area to correct if we can’t get a super scorer. How many on this site still clamor over Girardi, this is a bigger version of him, who also skates better!!!!!!!

    • Jerry says:

      Hi Walt.
      We already have a version of Ginning in the system in Sean Day. Day is an inch shorter and I guess about 25 pounds heavier.
      I wouldn’t waste a pick on Ginning.

      • Hatrick Swayze says:

        *not* the same. The two are polar opposite in terms of style of play, strengths, etc.

      • Walt says:

        Jerry

        You have it wrong. Day can skate, very well at that, and is also a very strong kid. The only stay at home type in the system would be Rykov, or maybe Lindgren, that’s why I said what I did.

        This is all academic because we have no idea what JG, and the organization has in mind with their first picks!!!!!!!

    • tanto says:

      No drafting by position, draft the best player available or the player with the highest ceiling (and a reasonable chance to achieve it).

      • Walt says:

        please read my second paragraph in the response to Jerry!!!!!!!!!

      • Reenavipul says:

        How do you draft most defencemen, then? Most metrics don’t really apply to D all that well, so much is eye test.

  3. MercSal says:

    I vote we take best center and right handed defenseman. Man’s game. Play hard.

  4. Czech!!!! says:

    You wrote “in Gordie Clark we trust” Why? He has been awful in my opinion. Our best players are were drafted by other teams or were UDFA. This is the part of the team that is a major problem.

    • Mintgecko says:

      We just need another Hayes and Zib and we’ll be set.

      Signing JT would improve the core

  5. Leatherneck says:

    Nils Lundkvist or Kevin Bahl should be targets for 2nd D man
    Kaut or Bokk and Dellandrea as forwards

    Personally I go
    Dobson at 9
    Kaut or Bokk at 26
    Dellandrea at 28?
    Bahl or Lundkvist 1 2nd
    Ylonen or Grloux 2 2nd
    Kotkov 1 3rd
    Hall or Clark 2 3rd

    KAndre Miller if available with 2nd pick of 2nd round then go for him. He could go mid 20’s to late 40’s anywhere in between

    seriously up to middle of the 2nd round in this draft is 1st round talent.

    • Reenavipul says:

      Umm, no, it isn’t that deep.

      It’s maybe 20 deep, then just throwing darts.

      That’s why you could see Ginning go at 25 or in the 3rd round.

      • Leatherneck says:

        Says you….I differ….I really do think it’s that deep when so many players can fall into the 2nd round and so many can move up into the 1st round.

        Kotkov was supposed to be a 4th round pick….when I was mentioning him…he is now projected to go in the 2nd
        McIssacs, KAndre Miller. Lundkvist, Bokk, Tychonick, Merkley, Sandin, Grloux, McBain, Bahl, Olofsson, Hillander, Thomas and Samuelsson can easily change positions in the draft between 1 and 2

        Kotkeniemi, Woo, Noel, Hayton, Veleno, Kupari, McLeod, Kaut, Kravstov. Lunderstorm could easily move up or down in the first

        • Reenavipul says:

          And that fluidity is the perfect example of why it’s not deep.

          In an environment where you can get video on anybody and have access to even basic stats(and some advanced,) that’s dart throwing.

          Lots of 2nd round ratings going to go in the 1st round. They’ll have a higher % of players make the show due to expansion

          Weakest draft since 2013.

  6. MercSal says:

    Go for forward in all your picks in the first and second rounds. Maybe someone will be a force. We have enough rookie defenseman.

  7. SalMerc says:

    As long as we stay away from the Carolina road we’ll be fine.

    • Carlsbad22 says:

      What the hell is “the Carolina road?”

      • SalMerc says:

        Trading up for the #1 overall pick and then wasting it by drafting a reach player like Ilya Kovalchuk in his rookie year.

        • Mancunian Candidate says:

          Yeah, who wants a guy like Kovalchuk? He only scored 29 goals in 65 games as an NHL rookie for the Thrashers! Nobody, least of all the Rangers, needs a rookie who scores 29 goals.

  8. Creature Feature says:

    Looks like we are moving towards the BU coach. I am hoping he has a bit of a say on players he likes as well. He needs to learn what he currently has on his roster and what he feels he needs, because if he gets a 5 year contract, players drafted next month will play for him in the early NHL life.

  9. Ray says:

    “They will get at least one prospect with elite level talent at #9 overall”

    You can hope for this surely, but you can’t count on it. Wasn’t Dylan McIlrath a #10 selection – not much different. More recently, the Isles grabbed Griffin Reinhart with the #4 choice and he still hasn’t really cracked the NHL. [And #1 Nail Yakupov, while an NHLer, isn’t a very good one.].

    The Rangers have an opportunity and the odds are in their favor, but they might pull out a clinker, Boqvist for example.

    • tanto says:

      This is a MUCH deeper draft than the one where McIlrath was picked, so the odds of drafting a kid with some bona fide elite talent is greater.

    • Carlos says:

      Boqvist is not a “clinker” as you say…

      • Reenavipul says:

        A 75 foot player.

        • Reenavipul says:

          Not a puck mover in his own end, not making stretch passes either. Usually has the other guy lug it out. When forecheck comes at him, the puck becomes a live grenade.

          Scouting the last few years getting more eyeballs on more players, so they’ve been better with their calls. So undersized D have been creeping up draft lists as they feel they have better risk management in place.

          People will be getting burned this year, will be getting fired next year.

  10. tanto says:

    Side note: Congratulations Lias Andersson, you have your gold medal … and to all those who are pissed off we selected him with the 7th pick, well here is a 19 year old selected to play on the gold medal winning men’s team at the WC —- obviously we weren’t the only organization to think the kid has the goods. 😉

    • Odielicious says:

      FYI …he didn’t play not one minute in the last game. and in the whole thing only had a 1 and 2 assists. Nothing really to brag about there other then the NY Rangers have a lot of clout with swedish hockey and got him on the roster as a fill.

      • mickeydee says:

        Or, there was a bit of puntive action on the part of the Swedish Federation to punish Andersson, for his actions during the World Juniors. But in the end, he was there, got the experience, and the medal.

        • Odielicious says:

          For you the sky is blue for me the sky is cloudy with a chance of Anderssons with the 7th overall pick.

      • tanto says:

        He’s 19 for God’s sake … you’re being unrealistic.

    • Richter1994 says:

      Question, right now and looking back:

      Andersson, Mittlestat or Tippet at #7.

      Just curious.

  11. MercSal says:

    When was the last time a team took a bonafyde center first overall? And then this year we have a defenseman going first. If we look real hard we can find a diamond in the rough near the third round.

    • Mancunian Candidate says:

      The first overall pick in four of the last five years has been a center. Perhaps you’ve heard of Connor McDavid, Auston Matthews, Nathan McKinnon, and Nico Hischier?

  12. Brendan says:

    Really hope we do some homework on this draft. I don’t want to see any reaching for players at #9. Only way i would trade up is for Wahlstrom, the kid is a stud and would probably have to trade with Arizona again but other than that stay put cause we could still draft an elite player at #9. Also id keep the later first round picks also just to stock up on prospects. Not too sure about moving into the teens as the price could be very high. But we will see.

    • MercSal says:

      Wahlstrom plays a man’s game; the same game Quinn coaches. Would love to see the pair light it up over the next 15 years. I don’t want to see us risk the future by picking a high floor, low ceiling guy like Kachuk/Bokk/Kupari/Kotkaneimi

  13. carlos says:

    A lot of people thought that Anderson was a reach pick at #7 last year, and we did fine… This year we pick at #9 in what scouts are saying is a better draft. I really rather keep the #9 pick then sell assets to move up just a slot or two (unless it’s Dahlin!😍). However I would be more apt to trade up with our last two picks in the first round to move up to the mid teens if there somebody there that we love (perhaps Kots or Kup?).

  14. Bloomer says:

    I trust Gordie and his scouting staff. Despite having little or dick all in the way of draft picks during the last several years. He has found some diamonds in the rough.

    • Reenavipul says:

      Turning sixth round picks into NHLers is nice, but whiffing on your 1st & 2nd rounders routinely is murder.