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To Tavares, or not to Tavares? That is the Question

May 15, 2018, by

Let’s put aside for just a moment that John Tavares is a New York Islander and that, historically, Islanders who become free agents rarely choose to sign with the Rangers. Let’s pretend that the Rangers actually have a chance at signing him, free of all the potential obstacles and baggage that would come with such a move.  Should they do it?  Jeff Gorton has the unenviable task of rebuilding the Rangers and his answer to this question may very well define his tenure as General Manager.

There are good arguments on both sides of this debate.  Tavares was the first overall pick in the 2009 Draft.  He will be 28 when next season starts.  His pedigree and career statistics (272-349-621 in 669 games; 2.89 all situations P/60 over the last five seasons, which compares favorably to Steven Stamkos) speak for themselves.  In a word, Tavares is elite.  The Rangers have not had a player like him on their roster since Jaromir Jagr, and haven’t had a center with Tavares’ ability since Mark Messier.

But he won’t come cheap.  Tavares will likely command a free agent deal that falls in between Stamkos’ somewhat team-friendly $8.5 million per year deal and Connor McDavid’s eight year, $100 million monster contract.  Given the Rangers current logjam at center – it’s the one position of strength in the organization, both on the NHL roster and in the prospect pipeline – acquiring Tavares would almost certainly be preceded by trading one (possibly both) of Mika Zibanejad and Kevin Hayes.

Somewhat counterintuitively, the “safe” option for the Rangers is to stay the course, forego the Tavares option and continue the more traditional rebuilding route centered on draft picks and prospects.  Even though Tavares is a sure thing, sinking $10 million plus per year into a single player on a team that is weak nearly everywhere else but in goal could result in a situation that bears resemblance to, well, the Islanders.  The Islanders have been unable to build a strong enough supporting cast around their superstar, and the result has been just three playoff appearances in nine seasons.

The Rangers adding Tavares to their books will almost certainly limit their roster flexibility moving forward.  Unless Jeff Gorton hits on all of his early draft picks, and most of the team’s prospects reach or exceed their ceiling, there’s a good chance that Tavares will be an elite player on a mostly mediocre team.

On the other hand, the addition of Tavares changes the look and feel of the Rangers overnight. At 28 years old, he makes an immediate impact.  I’ve written previously about the need for elite talent, and Tavares fills that need.  His presence would create a situation that would enable players like Lias Andersson, Filip Chytil and others to develop without worrying about becoming the “go-to guy.”

Let’s assume that the Rangers trade Mika Zibanejad to make way for Tavares, their opening night centers could be Tavares, Kevin Hayes, Vlad Namestnikov and Lias Andersson.  In the hypothetical Zibanejad trade, the Rangers would receive a bona fide top-pair defenseman (think Dougie Hamilton), meaning that in the blink of an eye, the Rangers are a threat in a Metropolitan Division that was largely mediocre last season.

The Tavares question has no clear right answer, so I leave it with you, fam.

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72 comments

  1. Richter1994 says:

    If he will sign here (which is a major “if”), there is nothing to think about, even with the contract that he will get.

    This would be a player at a level the Rangers have not had since Jagr. Nothing to think about. Putting him with either Zib or Hayes (both would not be able to stay if this happens) as the #2 puts the center position at a major strength for the Rangers. A position that has proven that needs to be strong to compete for a Cup.

    • sherrane says:

      Agreed. I think the Rangers would trade Zib because he’d bring a better return and will be a bit more expensive. I disagree with Rob that Namestnikov is in a serious conversation as I think Chytil is in the lineup at center.

      We’ve discussed ad nauseam the franchise needs an elite skater. The Rangers will need to either sign Tavares or will have to tank next year and win the lottery (or get close enough to be able to deal their way into it). Despite what a lot of Rangers fans wanted to think, missing the playoffs and the lottery is a difficult way to build a team.

      Phoenix / Arizona last made the playoffs in 2011-2012. They’ve picked 12th, 12th, 3rd, 7th, 7th, and 5th. That’s one top 3 pick in six seasons.

      Carolina last made the playoffs in 2008–2009. They’ve picked 7th, 12th, 8th, 5th, 7th, 5th, 13th, 12th, 2nd. That’s one top 3 pick in 9 seasons.

      You’d better have a lot of patience to watch a lot of bad hockey to have a shot at an elite player or figure out Pittsburgh has on Bettman.

      • Mintgecko says:

        You’re right about the team trading Zib but it won’t be because of a better return. JT would cover what Zib bring with better overall results. At the end of the day Hayes would still keep his same roles, PK1 and PP2. He’s also better to keep around for match making problems. JT would in the meantime would be better 5 on 5, PP and in any crucial time when a goal or play is needed. This makes Zib movable right now if need be due to cap or room on the roster.

        The wise move would be to keep both players and move Zib over to wing. I think he would become a better consistent scorer than Kreider.

    • pas44 says:

      I’d pass, BUT, man it would spark up the rivalry BIG TIME BABY!

    • Egelstein says:

      I only see him signing with the Rangers if he is going straight-up mercenary with no strings attached – highest bidder, period – and Gorton makes that bid.

      There just seem to be too many other factors stacked against this possibility, though. Of course, the rivalry…he wouldn’t be the first athlete to go to a fierce rival if he decided to, but more often than not it seems players generally avoid that if all other things are equal or close with other offers. I assume if he is set on leaving the Islanders, he will be looking at teams that seem closer to contention. On the flip side, some guys have extreme loyalty to the franchise that “raised” them, of course, and he may see the Islanders as closer to returning to contention than most folks otherwise if he is wearing some rosy colored glasses over there. Maybe he likes NYC life, maybe he doesn’t…and if he doesn’t, then obviously that’s a big problem for the prospect of signing him. Perhaps he’d like to go back to his home country and play for one of the storied Canadian teams. Lots of moving parts to this one; we shall see.

      • pas44 says:

        its easy to get off course with this writeup… the question of should the Rangers do it is only 1 part but it was what’s asked…

        We could easily talk about JT the person, just from what’s been said of him all these years makes me think he would not go to the Rangers.

        He is not the type of guy, but who knows…

        I know this. JT goes elsewhere and I am laughing my butt off in the faces of every Islander fan I know!

    • Moose Klein says:

      Heaven forgive us if we had Tavares and Mika and one of the kids (or both)
      There are enough assets and cash to keep both if they juggle and acquire
      some talent who can score and play defense….
      Think small and get small results…Size matters

    • Playground 9 says:

      F’ Tavares and the LIRR train he road in on…..

  2. Peter says:

    He will want a helluva lot of $ to sign and a very long term. $10 million + for 7 years I bet with a NMC too. If he was Connor McDavid’s age I’d probably say yes even though the cap hit is staggering. At 28, I say no.

  3. Walt says:

    “Somewhat counterintuitively, the “safe” option for the Rangers is to stay the course, forego the Tavares option and continue the more traditional rebuilding route centered on draft picks and prospects.”

    Counter to what many believe is the right direction, and I can appreciate their thought process, I would pass on JT. If we go out and sign him, along with Kovi, we will find us in a cap hell, and limit ourselves the ability of acquire any additional players that could make us a better team all around. Here’s something that is going to upset the apple cart, but if I’m looking for a center, next year Tyler Seugin will be available, and I’d rather see him on our team. Tyler has won a cup, has been on some very good teams, JT has been to the PO’s three times (?), won nothing, and it’s just a gut feeling, I would walk away from him, even if he would come here, which I believe he won’t!!!!!!!!!

    • Mintgecko says:

      Tyler isn’t worth it and I doubt JG goes after him next summer. You’ll hear more about the big names on the D side that the Rangers are interested in rather than Tyler S.

  4. MercSal says:

    Great player but expensive.

  5. SalMerc says:

    Go with JVR for less $ and years

  6. amy says:

    he would be a great player for us put him with zucc and Kreider and he would score 50 goals easy but he would be expensive

  7. Creature Feature says:

    Do we really want a player who is recognized as the face of the Islanders wearing our sweater? Nothing against his talent, but a hard pass for me. He taints the Ranger gene pool.

  8. Tim B says:

    If Tavares does end up signing with NYR, just imagine Zibanejad as his RW. With Tavares feeding him the puck. Who knows how many Mika can score. I would rather trade Hayes or Vlad for a dman

    • Mintgecko says:

      Hayes isn’t going anywhere no matter what imo. Zib as a scoring winger with a elite center gets me more hot and bothered than Kreider who they might eventually sell off too soon. Remember the trade rumors last season? That stuff doesn’t go away just like that.

  9. Mancunian Candidate says:

    No, no, no, no, no. If Gorton does this he will doom this rebuild before it really gets going. Tavares is a great player to be sure, but he’s already a 9-year veteran. Additionally his teams haven’t made the playoffs much, only 3 times in 9 seasons. If he’s truly elite he should’ve been able to get his team into the postseason more often. Lastly, he’s not a great skater—when he loses a step (as most players do after the age of 30), his production will plummet. Any team that goes upwards of 3 years on contract length with Tavares is gonna get burned badly, and of course he’ll be looking for a much longer term than 3 years.

    • James1090 says:

      It was never a true rebuild. If you listen to Dolan, Gorton and others this team never intended to become the Coyotes or Sabres. They want to compete as quickly as possible. This was more of a retool than a full rebuild.

      Tavares is an elite center. If all you have to is give up cap space then you have to at least try. You can’t blame all of the Islanders problems on him. Have you seen some of there defenseman and goalies the last couple of years?

      • Mancunian Candidate says:

        I’m not blaming the Isles’ chronic mismanagement on him. But I think it’s foolish to throw huge dollars long-term to Tavares. This is another Brad Richards situation in the making for whoever signs Tavares. Given that the Rangers have been burned many times in recent history with long-term contracts, maybe they’d finally come to their senses. Beyond that Tavares is a 1-dimensional player—admittedly very good at that one dimension, but nobody’s talking about how poor defensively he is. When Father Time strikes and Tavares’ skills inevitably diminish, it’s gonna be a perilously steep decline for whatever team has signed him.

    • Carlos says:

      Agreed..JT is a nice guy too and all, and I wish him the best – but not here, not now, and not this year – that’s the Isles problem right now, not ours. Im looking forward to June combines and draft, and if we stay the course, we’ll get our guy soon enough, imo.

  10. Emile the Cat says:

    If he accepts a 7 year contract then, IMO, its a no-brainer. The removal of McD, Miller, Zucc and the fact that Nash, Spooner, Names and others become non cap factors as a result of this. The cap situation, I don’t think, becomes overly burdensome down the road especially when Hank comes off the books. We will be seeing quite a few entry levels and the team can still grow and build.

    Big if for a 7 year deal, but again imo, a no brainer. 7/73.5

    • pas44 says:

      I agree with the CAP perspective, but at 28, does he still make an impact by the time the team catches up? risk Vs. reward….

      I say PASS

      • Egelstein says:

        This is the biggest risk, IMO. If the new coach doesn’t do the trick right away, and/or the wheels fall off again next season and further roster overhaul is required, that’s a minimum of one year of the contract wasted – more likely two or three. Those are some of the key years you are paying for with a mega-deal for a player of this age, of course. Combine that with the fact that there are some pretty top notch players likely headed to FA one way or another in the next few crops, and some of them will also be younger than Tavares is now, and I can totally understand why the Rangers would pass, if they elect to do so. I’d imagine they kick the tires and put in the due diligence to explore the option, but if that’s all they do and never actually enter the bidding, then I won’t be shocked.

      • Emile the Cat says:

        Kovalchuk PLUS Tavares make an impact from day 1. If you’re not trying to sign Tavares then What’s the point to signing Kovy?.

        • pas44 says:

          Kovy is not going to be expensive and not long contract, and he can help with the younger players with his same background too. no?

  11. roadrider says:

    It wouldn’t be worse than signing Bryan Trottier as coach — but it would be close!

    Hard pass.

  12. Rjcy says:

    Based on imperfect eye test, I admit, I struggle with finding him elite. Tavares is very good, but I think not elite. Long term deals at 28 are fraught with peril unless your name is Messier or Jagr. He will be, as we are taught in law school “an attractive nuisance [danger]” but me thinks we must pass.

  13. Reenavipul says:

    Desharnais off to Russia.

  14. Andy says:

    I would pass on him. He’s an elite player. And an elite player on a team that has been marginal for years. Which is a double edged sword. On the one hand you can argue he played well on a marginal team. The other side, as Captain, is he never was able to take the Islanders to the next level. Both are true.

    He will be expensive and want term and NMC which is something we should be loathe to pass out so quickly. But he won’t cost you any assets to acquire if you sign him as a UFA.

    There’s a better reason not to sign him. That is losing flexibility. The Islanders got Johnny Boychuk and Nick Leddy for not much because the Bruins and Hawks were up against the cap. The Devils got a good deal on Marcuss Johansson under similar conditions from Washington. You lose your flexibility you lose these opportunities. And there are plenty of teams out there that need cap flexibility. Now if you think Taveres is the Answer then Flexibility is a mute point. I actually don’t think he’s the answer.

    I also think he does not want to play here. That should be all you need to know to pass on him. It’s never a good idea to sign a guy who is not on board with the team. Matt Harvey is a good example. Life long Yankees fan. Had a great run for a period of time of time with The Mets. That did not end well. Will be interesting to see how he does in Cincinnati. He did not want to be a Met. His attitude showed that in the past few seasons. And he went from being a great asset to a difficult liability. I am not saying Taveres is anything like Harvey. But I am saying I don’t think he wants to be a Ranger. And any team should be leery of signing someone to a big money contract who’s heart is not in it.

    Finally what does Taveres want? If he wants to win the cup I can’t see him going to the Rangers or Islanders. It’s hard to see both teams winning in the near term. I hope I am wrong about The Rangers not being close to winning, but I am being realistic.

    Soft pass here but pass.

    • Mintgecko says:

      I would love to make a bet that JT has all his possible teams laid out on a table right now. When it comes down to the best 2 or 3 best fits for him and his family than the NYR would still be left as a realistic location for him. In other words I bet he does want to become a NYR, we will see what’s up soon enough.

  15. Reenavipul says:

    If you move Zib, keep Hayes doing the heavy lifting, you might as well take a run. You just have to have your conditional deal in place before the draft so you can agree with whom to select. It’s a lot of moving parts, but most teams aren’t that set on a guy.

  16. Leatherneck says:

    He will resign with the Islanders and Islanders need to make moves,,,,we trade with them because he resigns with the Islanders

    Real Ranger fans, mostly all understand what is happening and want to see us develop a team of our own, fresh start, hope, new culture, tough team to play against, kids growing right before our eyes and be contenders to win and win for years to come instead of one and done every 80 years.
    Some Ranger fans will be impatient, but that’s because of the unknown factor however a winning and successful strategy will make them forget the angst they are feeling at the moment.

    We have to change the team with a few players currently on the roster

    Lundqvist- too old and costly for the Ranger and the direction they must go

    Zucc, Staal, Spooner, Namestnikov,Assets that need to bring back assets

    Skjei, Shattenkirk, Zibby, Hayes, Vesey Hockey trade chips (Gap fillers)

    Tyler Seguin, Josh Manson, Brandon Montour and Lawson Crouse would be nice additions not the likes of Karlsson, Tavares and Kovolchuck

    Building the team around Sherstyorkin, Georgiev, Lindgren, Day, Hajak, Pionk, Chytil, Andersson, Gettinger, Howden, the picks next 2 drafts (So vital), Future UFAs like Seguin, trades for likes of Trouba, Manson, Montour, Crouse

    Fellas 3 years before we are competing legitimately

    • James1090 says:

      Your living in a fantasy world with your proposals. This wasn’t a true rebuild like the Coyotes or Sabres have been going through. It was more of a retool. If you listen to management there goal is to start competing next season. The only realistic players to be traded are Zuccarello and Spooner.

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      That all sounds good my friend …. but the big move won’t happen.Stuck for another 3 years! Tavares would be great addition but its the cost that would hinder the deal.If the could sign him for 5-6 years then maybe.

    • Reenavipul says:

      Lawson Crouse is a 3rd liner *at best*.

      • Leatherneck says:

        I’ll take him….and for the 4th line….but we need guys like him

        • Leatherneck says:

          My point is types of players we should trade for…

          James….this better be a full on rebuild and not a retool….I am done with retools….they don’t work….back in the day it was stupid trades of our younger players

          enough is enough

          • James1090 says:

            I think you are going to be disappointed. I think the Rangers are going to try and make the playoffs next season. The only realistic trades I see happening are Zuccarello and Spooner.

  17. coneyhost says:

    love Tavs, but feel need to pass on this beaut.
    not to compare, but last year’s version of 1C (stamkos) you can see the difference.
    91 is an all-star, but not sure if he is the $8-$10 million. Never had a 40 goal season. Stammer put in 60. If the price is right, the term is right and ‘we’ don’t expect 40 goals out of Tavs than bring him in.

    • Mancunian Candidate says:

      Well-said, the Stamkos comparison is way overblown. Stamkos is a much better defender and is also a better goalscorer than Tavares.

  18. czech!!! says:

    This is the type of move that the Rangers have made for decades! This along with Kovy move would just be stupid and show once again that we have no plan and just go for the names. Look at the successful teams. They all are led by home grown stars. This season the Caps are killing it with Kuz and the gang like Orlov, Carlson, Backstrom when healthy, Wilson, Holtby and others. Only AO was the first pick in the draft. The problem isn’t having the first 2 picks in the draft but its being able to recognize talent, draft it and then develop it. We are lacking big time in those two areas now for decades.

  19. Mikeyyy says:

    Let’s do it. We’ve made bad signings at pathetic attempts to make this team relevant. Why stop now?

    He’s slow , not physical at all and goes through prolonged scoring slumps.

    Sign us up.

  20. kevshockey says:

    If Tavares lets the Rangers to the table and is willing to sign, I don’t think there’s any reason why the Rangers shouldn’t sign him.

    If you’re in a situation where 31 teams in the NHL would gladly add a player to the roster if they could make it happen then you should pull the trigger on the deal. The Rangers aren’t in salary cap hell right now after last year, they don’t have to sign any big ticket guys this summer. They also have younger players on the roster in Hayes and Zibanejad who have tons of value.

    The Penguins won 2 cups in a row with mediocre to terrible defense cores, good to great goaltending and 4 lines that could carry the play up front. The Rangers already have 2 of those things. Tavares could pull them a lot closer to that third category. Tavares-Zibanejad-Hayes-Namestnikov isn’t exactly Crosby-Malkin-Bonino-Cullen down the middle but man the Rangers have some untapped talent on the wings… If you get the chance you take it. That forward group with the 1sts from last year sticking, Howden also in the running and all the RFAs could potentially be 4 very strong lines pushing the play.

    • pas44 says:

      Dude, you said it yourself, wheres, at least the Malkin, Kessle and Letang for JT…

      and Henrik is slowing…

      PASS

  21. pas44 says:

    PASS

    He is 28

    This team is not ready to win just by adding him, plus removing Z as well.

    By the time the org can build around him, Henrik would be, hard to type, done.

    NO JT, let him ruin the Islanders with a long deep contract & still no home worth playing in until 2 more full seasons…

    Let’s be real, no player wants to come to Brooklyn, waiting for the team to get better until they get a new home, thats still far away form the fan base…. The Islanders should move to a better hockey town. JT is not saving them and we can’t rebuild the Rangers.

    PASS

  22. craig says:

    Has anybody compared the career stats of Tyler Seguin compared to John Tavaris? This guy is no slouch.

    Believe it or not, Tavaris has not that large an edge in total career amount of points over Seguin; taking into consideration, Tavaris has played two more years.

    Although I would agree Tavaris definately has an edge as a player, but it may not be as much as people think.
    I would explore a long contract with Seguin before attempting to sign Tavaris, given Seguin’s younger age and the potential for less cost per season.

  23. Jerry says:

    I still say all this speculation is moot. In my opinion he doesn’t sign here.
    However, I’m a hard pass anyway.

  24. avsucks says:

    I say pass, my nephew would jump off a bridge if he signed with the rangers,

  25. MercSal says:

    If we sign Tavares and the Isles go out and pick up someone like Dylan McAvoy in the draft I’m going to be incensed.

  26. larry says:

    To Tavares, or not to Tavares? That is NOT the Question, the Question is would Tavares sign with the NYR?
    .

  27. BOBBY B says:

    He is going nowhere, he will resign with the Fish Sticks. They will intern sign Lou Lamarillo to be the new GM, and go on to win a Cup before we do! It amazes me how the Rangers ( an original 6 team ) and we have only 2 Cups to our name in 78 years!!!!!!.. Look at this Vegas machine run by McPhee/Gallant, an expansion team on the Cusp of entering a Stanley Cup Final ( UNBELIEVABLE!! )

  28. Resident Genius says:

    I would take him.

  29. Tony says:

    I would say no, his age, and JT would command a huge contract. Look at all the big name free agents that came here and were failures: Drury, Gomez, Redden, etc. just to name a few. Think about the trades that NYR can make, let’s say land Trouba or a player like Laine (not sure when he is a UFA).

    Plus Seguin is a UFA next year, we need some cup winners that can help the team out, at reasonable contracts. NYR has to be careful who the sign, if NYR sends the message that they will sign someone cause of their name, then what was the point of the rebuild? NYR can get a player or two signed or in a trade, but they have to be relatively young (25 or younger). Should NYR have a lot of money left over to sign a player or two then they bring in a seguin or ufa.

    Remember Lundqvist is gone in 2yrs, Zucc will be used as trade bait, Kreider might be moved as well. I would assume the team cant just quick fix these trades with vets and spend a whole lot of money.

    If the Rangers have 30million to work with, use that money wisely, look at the team’s wholes and fix them. Top pairing def (Trouba) some wingers. I don’t know how much the Rangers have left over to sign their RFA. Does anyone know with the current roster which players have to be signed for the next few years. Tavares would be a Richards type contract front loaded, watch NYR would end up buying out Tavares in the long run. Not for nothing it would be nice seeing the new Rangers coach have an input into the players he wants.

    The new coach should determine that with Gorton, not just Gorton signing a big name to MSG like Sather did so many years. Maybe the new coach should also try to hire a good PP coach and defense coach. Someone he can work with, and trust. I can’t wait for Sather to bite the dust, LOL!!! Calling Mark Messier would you like to be the new President. Come on Mark help us win, LOL!! You did it as a player, maybe he can have an insight and tell Gorton what the team needs. Oh well back to reality, LOL!!!

  30. Odielicious says:

    anybody for the right price can help this team. 6 or 7 year deal 10 million good to me. If he wants higher or can get higher thanks but see you around. He is no Sakic and truly if I had my pick from Centers in the league I think Mckinnon is the guy I want most. Seguin is nothing to laugh at either.

    Like I have stated 1000 times we have no one to teach/mentor the youth that will soon be on this roster. And without a elder statesman to guide the youth I think we will flop and this will be a long rebuild/retool.

    Kovy is not the answer. He is a bum and when he gets here next year you will all remember why he left the nhl. IMO he is just another version of present day Jagr but without the puck control that Jagr has. Kovy was never an exceptional skater and he is soft.

  31. chrisqct says:

    I think you do sign him if it can work out and he actually wants to come here. That’s the bigger question to me.

    I don’t believe he has any desire to play for the NYR, and I don’t think it has anything to do with the Islanders. I don’t see why he would sign up for another “rebuild” on his own accord after being part of a rebuild his whole career. No doubt he would be interested in the NYR had we been very close to winning the Cup and he could see himself as that missing piece.

    But now? Very doubtful, IMHO. Every day of this man’s career he’s heard how “next year” will be better. We’d essentially have the same pitch now, but probably have to say “in 2 years.” May as well just stay on LI then… or go almost anywhere else.

    He’s not going to want his bio to end as, “Elite talent who barely played in the Playoffs, and never got close to the Cup.”

    • JoeS. says:

      ok, so here is my thoughts. Yes, he is an Islander, the “NY” Islanders. then there is the Rangers! The original six NYR who happen to play in the greatest city on earth at “The World’s Most Famous Arena”…”NY”! So not much of a further commute. I think he, as I do any player in the NHL, would be both honored and privileged, to have an opportunity to play with the NYR.

      Having said that…I want no part of JT in a NYR uniform! Not because he played for the NYI, but rather, because he is too old for the contract he would have to be tendered.

      been there, done that! New CBA: 4 year max, $8 mil max. Take it or leave it, and find better employment opportunities elsewhere. Good Luck to you!

  32. jeff says:

    Rob I get the concept…..let the guys have the discussion…….can I suggest an article on any of our 2016 and prior picks and what they have to do to become relevant? If any thing…… I guess they are at best bottom 6 and is there anything on the farm. Who won’t be tendered and who is coming in….and a clear view of UFAs’ and projected cost besides JT, JvR and Kovy.
    If JG does one of these UFAs’ the rest of the roster will need to be dismantled to make $ room for them…..we know that none of them can carry a team….if they could they would be resigned by their team, no? Mess, Graves and Jagr were gifts from financially unstable organization and we were lucky to have the fishnagels to get them and this was before the cap.
    Why look at long term dollar and years commitments again after JG did such at great job at the deadline? I think we came out ahead all around. I’m watching the Lightning and hoping they win for the ex Rangers( rest of the team as well). My eyes tell me MacD is not going well and I feel bad about that for him. I think,hope not, he is shot.
    On all the signings, draft and trades I am going to trust JG and Gordie. Hopefully Slats will nod off to sleep at the draft table and the boys can go for the best available trades and players.
    The Force is with us!

  33. Blue Seat says:

    I am not sure of his injury and health history. If he is in good shape, sign him. And get a first line, defensively skilled, defenseman as well. Trade who gets you that guy. Other than Hank.

  34. Al says:

    We don’t need to make the same mistakes over and over again. Give another 28 year old player a long term no trade clause contract. When will we learn. Draft well this year and develop your own players. One cup in 78 years, time for a new philosophy.

  35. Bloomer says:

    JT is too big and a bit too physical. Only smurfs can wear Ranger blue. Tavares isnt suited for the new NHL.

    • Mancunian Candidate says:

      Bloomer, you’re joking, right? Tavares isn’t big (6’1”, 210 lbs) and he’s not physical in the least. He had 30 hits in 82 games played last season. To put this into perspective—Mika Zibanejad had 92 hits in 72 games played last year. Yet I’m sure you’d consider Zib softer than Tavares somehow. Tavares has had more than 50 hits once in his nine-year career. Tavares isn’t physical, he’s not speedy, and he’s terrible defensively. He’s great offensively but lacking in every other aspect of the game. Have you watched Tavares play at all, or do you just make it up as you go along?

      • MercSal says:

        He’s meaty though, and that’s what counts. I wouldn’t deny him a spot on the team, but I wouldn’t clear cut the forest to make room for him.

        • Mancunian Candidate says:

          Meaty? What does that even mean in this context? Tavares is not a physical player, not at all. 30 hits in 82 games played makes Tavares the equivalent of a very soft European player, at best.

          Tavares will be the next Brad Richards. He’ll be overpaid and will have too long a term to his contract. He will drag down whatever team he joins, because he’ll make a disproportionate amount of salary for what he can actually bring to a team.

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