Mar
02

Game 65: Spooner St.

March 2, 2018, by
john gilmour

(AP Photo/Andres Kudacki

The Rangers are at it again tonight in Calgary, and the story of the post-deadline Blueshirt world has been Ryan Spooner. Since his acquisition, Spooner has five assists in two games. Add that to Vladislav Namestnikov’s two point effort the other night, and the pair of new Rangers –who went from playoff teams to rebuilders– are doing just fine.

The defensive structure, though, is a tire fire. We expected this, though. The old adage of “Score a bunch and hope Hank makes the save” holds true. That won’t change unless the system changes. Since it won’t, we get to watch track meets. But it’s Hank’s birthday today, so maybe don’t hang him out to dry?

Flames Systems

Glen Gulutzan is fairly standard with his systems. It’s a 1-2-2 forecheck, but it sometimes looks like a 1-1-1-2, could just be the tv angle. The defensive zone system is an overload, sometimes collapsing depending on puck location. The PP is a 1-3-1/umbrella hybrid. The PK is a hybrid box/diamond.

Flames Lines

Johnny Gaudreau-Sean Monahan-Sam Bennett
Matt Tkachuk-Mikael Backlund-Michael Frolik
Troy Brouwer-Mark Jankowski-Chris Stewart
Tanner Glass-Matt Stajan-Garnet Hathaway

Mark Giordano-Dougie Hamilton
TJ Brodie-Travis Hamonic
Brett Kulak-Michael Stone

PP1: Tkachuk-Gaudeau-Monahan-Brouwer-Giordano
PP2: Ferlund-Backlund-Bennett-Brodie-Hamilton

Jon Gillies gets the start.

Rangers Lines 

Chris KreiderMika ZibanejadPavel Buchnevich
Ryan Spooner-Kevin HayesJesper Fast
Jimmy Vesey-Vladislav Namestnikov-Mats Zuccarello
Paul CareyDavid Desharnais-Cody McLeod

Brady SkjeiJohn Gilmour
Marc StaalNeal Pionk
Rob O’Gara-Tony DeAngelo

PP1: Kreider-Zuccarello-Zibanejad-Namestnikov (probably)-Skjei
PP2: Hayes-2 more forwards-Gilmour-DeAngelo

Henrik Lundqvist gets the start.

Scratches/Injuries: Kevin Shattenkirk (knee), Ondrej Pavelec (knee), Steven Kampfer (hand), Peter Holland (healthy)

Crazy Prediction: A shutout for Hank on his birthday.

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26 comments

  1. Bloomer says:

    Game tied at one after the first. Calgary spending a lot of time in be Rangers end. Surprised to see Holland back in the lineup. His game hasn’t improved since it was announced that he was going to be sent back down.

  2. Dan says:

    Are we trying to set the record for most shots against?? 🤦🏼‍♂️

  3. Bloomer says:

    Spooner makes it 3-1. I continue to be impressed with his play.

  4. Leatherneck says:

    Fitting title…that kid is HOTTTT!!!!

    but again….this is not the freaking time for the Rangers to get hot

    Draft position is critical especially round 2 on

    Conspiracy theory….Canadian teams are losing on purpose so the Canadian teams have better draft position….this is a joke…just in case

    • Bloomer says:

      The Ranger forwards undressed the Flames multimillion dollar defence on several occasions in the second. O’Gara has a cannon of a shot and Boink is smart with the puck on his stick.

  5. Leatherneck says:

    I think DeAngelo will turn into a good defenseman

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      We’re supposed to loose!!!

    • Peter says:

      I agree, but he is a work in progress. When he was with Arizona Tony played as if he was a forward, pinching and joining the rush or rushing the puck himself at every opportunity. The Rangers are trying to convert him to a real defenseman and he has made a lot of progress, but still has a ways to go.

      I have been watching him closely and aside from a 2 or 3 game stretch where he didn’t play too well when Holden was his partner, he has been much improved in the defensive zone. His shots hit the net consistently; on one power play he hit the net with three consecutive shots within about 15 seconds. When he is in the offensive zone he is the best passer of the Wolfpack kids who joined the big club. He is still tentative with his breakout passes because he used to carry the puck out instead of passing it out like he is being told to do with the Rangers.

      So, altogether he needs work and the time he is spending with the big club will be valuable. Only time will tell whether he progresses enough to develop into a good player with the Rangers.

  6. Bloomer says:

    The Birthday Boy was lights out tonight.

  7. Leatherneck says:

    Yeah,,,,hopefully to increase his trade value….lol

    He really was superb in both games

    They are shooting themselves in the foot though

  8. Hockey Sittoo says:

    Hank was unbelievable tonight and vs the Canucks. Definitely has not embraced the tank. Spooner is a heckuva player. When is Kreider going to bury those shots?

  9. Jerry says:

    I am NOT in favour of an intentional tank.

    But playing Hank make zero sense. Our games are NOT about getting Hank his 30 wins.
    Draft position is always important, and for years we’ve been drafting in the middle of the pack (exception last year). We are ‘re-whatever you want to call it’. These games have absolutely no value except for assessing our talent.

    We should be playing Georgiev in goal. We should be assessing exactly what this kid has. Is he good enough to be a back up next year? What the hell good does it do sitting him while Hank plays.
    Idiocy……….

    God I can’t wait until AV is gone……………………….

    • Walt says:

      Jerry

      Agree except we need to get to the top 5 position in order to get a shot at a very good player. As has been stated on many occasions, Leather has brought it to our attention, the second round quality is also very good, the higher be draft at, the better position we are in the rest of the entire…….Dive baby dive!!!!!!

    • Odielicious says:

      Honestly don’t feel any of this roster right now is AV’s call. But if it is his call, it is his duty to field the best team any on given night cause why else play the game. Then you are back to the situation pre-deadline with guys just no showing on the ice.

      Now if Hank gets shelled and the score gets out hand early in any of these remaining games and he doesn’t get pulled for Georgie then you can count me in on the bashing.

      But if our total rookie lineup is good enough with Hank in net to win a game 3-1 against the flames then shame on Calgary.

      Georgie is getting looked at no matter whether he plays in game or not. And he is learning after sitting on the bench the whole game and seeing how hard Hank competes, he gets to see how hard the hayes and krieders, spooners, namestikovs, and the zucs are to stop in practice. And the franchise is seeing how well he handles it individually. On top of all this he is working with Allaire on a daily basis and having him improve specific parts to his game. At this point I would embrace the tank by having Georgie up even when Pavelac comes back. And getting him in whenever Hank wants a rest or on back to back nights.

      • Jerry says:

        Odie
        I get what you’re saying about Georgie seeing “action” in practice, and learning while sitting on the bench. However, there isn’t any substitute for game action, and playing games against NHL caliber players. That’s the was the Rangers can assess his true worth.

        The Penguins thought they had a stud in Jarry. Touted as at least Murray’s equal if not better. After seeing him play in a number of NHL games, what they are finding out is that he is no better than the slugs the Islanders have in goal.

  10. Walt says:

    Jerry above isn’t to cool with the idea of us tanking, and normally I wouldn’t care to see it as well. Just one quick thought, the Rangers have a total of what four cups in our entire history by playing it straight. The Pens already have five, with a good shot at a possible 6th, in half the number of years.

    How did this team get so many cups, relative to us? Answer, dive, dive, dive! When Mario was coming up, the Pens tanked so badly, it was embarrassing, but no one said a word. When Cindy was coming up, repeat story, but in his case there was icing on the cake in the form of Malkin. There was a lock out, and the Pens were lucky enough to be so bad the two seasons before that they qualified for the lottery, and they got Malkin in the same draft.

    I hate them for that, but you know what, it saved their franchise, won them five cups, while we played it straight, and won one cup over the last 78 years. Do I sound cynical, I am, so in this case, I’ll be a hypocrite and endorse a dive big time!!!!! Please no more wins this season, save them for next year……

    • Jerry says:

      Walt.
      I understand what you’re saying. We do have a number of young kids in the line-up. The last thing I want to see is a culture of going through the motions .
      I get draft position. I do. And I want nothing more than to “achieve” as best a position as possible, not only for the first round, but position is just as important in that second round.

      I’d just like to see Georgiev playing the majority of the remaining games. He should have started in Vancouver and last night while Hank played tonight.

      In my opinion this is nothing more than AV trying to save his job. This is about putting one player, Hank, above the good of the Organization.

      I come from a culture of always giving your all, in organized sports, the Marine Corps and then in my professional career(s).
      So I never want to see a team be told to tank alla the Penguins for Lemieux.

      Let winning OR losing take care of itself, but for heaven’s sake assess the talent we have at our disposal in Georgiev. And the only way to do that is play him, not sit him.

      • Walt says:

        Jerry

        Like yourself, I’m a competitor, and hate to lose, will give my best at all times. As stated above, I was offended by the actions of the Pittsburgh organization on both occasions. We play by the rules, they, along with others will do a swan dive to get a shot at the best, and then go on to become champs, it’s just not right. Isn’t it the reason the NHL went to a lottery system in the first place?

        I’m also all in on the playing of Georgie, we know what Hank can do, this kid needs a shot at being a regular, or at least a back up for Igor down the road. We usually are on the same page, don’t interpret this as a criticism, just MHO!!!!!!!!

        Sempre Fi to you, Leather, and the rest of the Marines!!!!!!!

    • Odielicious says:

      I guess it is just hard to convince players like Hank to accept defeat. And on any given night he still can steal the show. And I think in the remaining players there is just a natural fight in them to compete as hard as they can. No one wants to go home a loser. And maybe our call ups mixed with our vets just aren’t as bad as some teams regulars. LOL It really was a pathetic showing by Calgary.

      Even if Arizona played 500 hockey for their remaining games. Which would be a utter miracle…that would leave them with 66 points for the season. Just 2 points ahead of us right now. Buffalo is only 3 points ahead of them, and Ottawa is 6 points. They are not going to catch us no matter how bad we play. Just look at Ottawa they literally just beat us 10 days ago. And so did montreal. Don’t worry about winning …out the remaining 17 games left we will most likely only win 3 games the way we are playing giving up 50 plus shots a night.

      I see us finishing with 68 to 70 points on the season. At best we will be 75 points max. Our remaining schedule is just not forgiving.

      • Walt says:

        Odie

        Your right, and normally I’d be front and center with the give it all you got attitude, but in this case I want to be in the bottom five in order to get a shot at Dahlin. Maybe some of the Pens horse sh*t luck will rub off on us!!!!

  11. Joen7 says:

    Well it good to see effort but I would not mind losing. Hank should not be playing so much. Love to trade him while he may have some value next year.

  12. Leatherneck says:

    Military terminology

    Retrograde- you retreat in a tactical manner as to not get overrun which means you give yourself a fighting chance in the face of defeat

    Reasons for retrograde- Terrain is not favorable, overwhelming force attacking you, lack of supplies and over extending your avenue of approach and making your flanks vulnerable to a counter attack

    Translation to and for the Rangers- This is not a weak draft, your position in the draft matters. Ranger problem, lack of depth this draft will help solve a big part of that, prepare for a strategic win where as a tactical win could result in your ultimate defeat, F–k pride, foolish pride will kill you, intelligent pride will make you win. SET yourself up to WIN

    • Jeff says:

      Unfortunately, and as far back as I can remember, strategic thinking has never been a strong suit of NYR management. The Cat, The Fog, Fergie (not the sweet young singer) Espo, Neil (The Edmonton Cup), Slats and JG. Its always been NOW!
      I now have a hope that did not exist from 1971 to 2017. Now I have hope.
      Keep going JG, keep to your plan it seems to go beyond next year, whowouldathunk?
      Leatherneck best post!

  13. Leatherneck says:

    Well Martin Kaut finally took a huge dive in ranking….he was steady as she goes with very little fluctuation….now in one mock draft he trended into the 2nd round

    McBain shot into the late 1st pick

    huge upward fluctuations Barrett Hayton, Jacob Olofsson

    huge downward fluctuations- Serron Noel. Joe Veleno, Martin Kaut, Calen Addison