Three minutes in the first doom Rangers in Minnesota

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The Rangers came into Minnesota last night looking to extend their winning streak to three games. For the most part, they played well. They generated a good amount of chances, and outscored the Wild for the final 54 minutes or so. The problem was they had a three minute stretch in the first where they forgot they were playing a hockey game. Boneheaded plays, turnovers, and some bad luck all combined for three goals in a span of three minutes and change for the Wild to grab a 3-0 lead, something they would not relinquish.

Neal Pionk and John Gilmour had strong games. It was nice to see some kids showing they can play at this level, even if it is just a two or three game sample so far. There wasn’t much else to say about this game. Devan Dubnyk was tested throughout and played well. Henrik Lundqvist was hung out to dry for those three minutes. He wasn’t really tested much though. It seems odd to say, since this game appeared to be, for the most part, controlled by the Rangers. That said, Minnesota did a good job of shutting the Rangers down in the third, really limiting their chances.

On to the goals:

Wild 1, Rangers 0

Nick Holden turned it over at the red line to Eric Staal for the odd man rush. Shot placement like that, under the blocker, is very difficult to stop.

Wild 2, Rangers 0

Rick Nash scored on the wrong net here.

Wild 3, Rangers 0

Brady Skjei over skated the puck, allowing the puck to free up to get to Marcus Foligno in the high slot for the easy goal.

Wild 3, Rangers 1

Vinny Lettieri forced a turnover low on the powerplay, and got support from Kevin Hayes to get the puck up to the point. Tony DeAngelo collected the pass while John Gilmour slid down to get to a position to shoot. DeAngelo’s pass was perfect, and Gilmour fired an absolute howitzer by Dubnyk.

Wild 3, Rangers 2

Neal Pionk blocked a shot as Nash came out of the box, and then flipped the puck out of the zone to Michael Grabner. Grabner got the puck to Hayes, who had his shot deflected as he took it. The deflection fooled Dubnyk.

Score Adjusted Corsi (even strength)

It’s amazing what turnovers and bad plays can do. The Rangers, except for those three minutes and change, played somewhat well this game. But those three minutes in the first where they forgot how to play really hurt them. I’m not overly pleased with that stint in the third where Minnesota controlled play, but they are a good team, after all.

Scoring Chances (even strength)

The ratio of shot attempts to scoring chances really isn’t that good here. We expected that three minute stretch to be rough, but the Rangers actually allowed a good number of chances to Minnesota. I guess that should be expected, all things considered.

The kids looked good in this game, so that’s the main takeaway for me from this one. Pionk and Gilmour looked steady. They make good decisions with the puck in their own end. They haven’t really had many gaffes either. Tony DeAngelo is a great passer as well. On to the next.

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71 thoughts on “Three minutes in the first doom Rangers in Minnesota

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 6:09 am

    The funny thing is, it wasn’t the rookies that messed this game up.

    Memo to AV: It doesn’t matter if the gaffes come from rookies or vets, as they weigh equally. Gaffes = Gaffes. Get it?

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 6:57 am


      Also. It’s unfortunate that he got hurt and hopefully he will have no lingering health issues from this latest injury. That being said, Marc Staal must never play another minute for this team.

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:18 am

        The kids will force the issue by playing like they have been. I stated the other day that Staal may be on the LTIR for a while, and the longer he stays, the harder it will be for AV to put him back into the lineup!!!!

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:22 am

          good morning to the automatic usual idiot, I wish you a nice day!

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:03 am

        Hopefully Marc gets bought out, or, miraculously, traded, for ANYTHING.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:33 am

      You know He wont get it.

      You also know that if by some crazy chance the Rangers hang close to a playoff spot Holden is going to be leaned on Heavily.

      So many passes last night from our D that were sharp, fast, and right to the stick. The transition game was very noticeable and the shots being taken from the point (that make it past a block attempt and actually get on net) were a pleasure to watch.

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:09 am

        Fortunately, it doesn’t matter how much they win now, the purge is coming.

        The only thing I will say that trading Zuc and/or McD is not a given like Nash and Grabner (and Holden and DD) because if the Rangers do not get that elite haul for let’s say McD then they are not trading him. I hope.

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:36 am

          You mean not like the pile of pucks and rocks they got when they traded Leetch?

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 10:41 am

            Huge Brian leetch fan. Wore his jersey for over a decade. That said, he was 34 or 35 when the Rangers traded him, and only played one more season in the NHL. The first and second round picks plus 2 prospect was not a bad haul, even if it didn’t entirely pan out.

            Kovalev trade on the other hand…

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 11:20 am

              Re Leetch trade and earlier Sather sell-off: Jozef Balej is still playing in Europe at age 35. Kinda crazy. A washout in NHL, though part of that could be attributed to the 04-05 lost season due to the lockout. I remember the Rangers FO thought he was gonna be a player. And I agree the haul for Leetch wasn’t bad, it’s more an indictment of Sather’s crappy drafting ability as Ranger GM.

              • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:25 pm

                very much so. on the other hand, if that 2nd round pick they got for Leetch – everyone’s favorite short-time ranger of the modern era Mike Sauer – stays healthy maybe the rangers peak years and decision-making on handling its defensive roster looks very different today. you never know!

                yeah wow jozef balej – ugh.

              • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:41 pm

                I agree with you, If Sauer was still on the team in the 2013 Stanley cup finals team, Sauer might have been logging those big minutes over Dan Girardi. Might have been a different outcome in those loses to the Kings who roasted Danny G.

                Bradon Crawley in Hartford kinda reminds me of Sauer’s game. Rangers are quietly very high on this prospect.

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 3:01 pm

              Which trade to Pitt or Montreal?

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:39 pm

            Top prospect required. If it’s not there, then don’t force it.

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:10 am

          I’m with you 94 that what happens on the ice shouldn’t change Groton plans to sell. Yes sell smart on McD just like Nash and everyone else. High end talent with speed and a hammer or three.

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:40 pm

            We have a unique opportunity for both young players and first round picks.

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:41 am

    It was 3 bad minutes, but otherwise they played pretty well. I am enjoying watching DeAngelo, Pionk and Gilmour. Only 3 games, but not easy opponents either. This game also could have really gotten away from them, but they clawed their way back. In the end we even out shot them. So another lose but it feels like we are bottoming out.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:43 pm

      “It was 3 bad minutes, but otherwise they played pretty well”

      Other than that? How was the play Mrs. Lincoln?


  • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Its a lot of fun to watch these young kids playing. Very hard to watch because there is that part of me that understands losing games right now is not a bad thing, but it wanting them to lost a certain way…last night was one of the good ways where it was the Vets that cost us the game, Hank kept us alive after the quick three, and the youth provided the offensive sparks to almost come back.

    I do not want to see any of these young kids make mistakes that will leave them in AVs doghouse when it is very noticeable that shift after shift these kids are the ones driving the play while Holden (our trusted vet lol) is a step behind and out of position.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:20 am

      They laugh at me for harping on the fact that kids play for a spot on the roster, and the vets, not all, go thru the motions. I want to see all the naysayers defend AV now, and continue to tell me that I was wrong. I love kids playing, you can get rid of all the old farts, it’s the youth that will shine in the future. Tell me with a straight face, using your brains instead of your hearts, that the likes of Staal, Holden, DD, etc., played better than the product your seeing on the ice the last three games. If you do well there is no hope for your vision folks!!!!!!!!!!


      They are having a special on lasik surgery here in the central PA area, come one, come all, restore your vision!!!!!!!

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:35 am

        Hey Walt
        Where in Pa ,I live in the Pocono’s – Lackawaxen to be exact

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:19 am

          Mechanicsburg, across the river from the state capital, but I think your vision is great. LOL……….

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 11:40 am

            Enjoy reading your comments all the time . I don’t post much but go the sight every day .Also like hockey buzz . Rangers fan since 1949, think what they are going to do is a good thing as long as they get it right . My thinking is if you don’t get what you want for McD or Nash or Grabs just keep them around and don’t settle for what you want back . Nash wants to stay in NY so even if we do get what we want for him he might take a home town disc to come back . Think we still can make the POs this year if AV stays the course with the kids . Think he might have been told by JG to play the kids no matter what LGR

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:42 pm

              Tend to agree with what your saying about both Nash, and Mac, but their value is at its highest right now, so we have to make good trades……

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:21 am

          By the way, isn’t great not to pay income taxes on your retirement, smart people get out while the getting is good…….It’s only on retirement income folks……..

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:31 am

            That’s why I fled NY for the sunny skies of FL.

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:43 pm


              That’s why your on my list of brilliant posters. LOL!

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 6:43 pm

        I understand your point of view Walt…I truly do. What you see on ice now is a hell of a lot better then what was on the ice 3 weeks ago. But I think you are not factoring that one point that really matters.

        Kids play hard no matter what, They don’t want to ride the bus anymore and want to make the big show. Veterans with guaranteed contracts have a little more variety in their everyday game. With kids it is simple play well or leave. Vets can stink it up for various reasons, salary disputes, playing time, nagging injuries, there is a plethora of excuses not to play hard every single night.

        I would rather play Staal over the rookies but without all the baggage that he carries as a vet. He is valuable but not any longer on this roster and not for his price.

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:05 pm


          You have restated my point that I’ve made time and again, the kids are hungry, the vets not so, that’s why I’m all for cleaning house of the dead wood. I’ve been saying that for years, thanks for seeing it for yourself, maybe rephrasing it, but the message is the same!!!!

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:41 am

      Also, has anyone noticed that since the young D men were inserted they practically stopped loosing pucks behind their net and along the boards in D-zone? Can’t wait for Holden to get moved, not only his turnover cost the first goal, he, as usual was slow to make a decision with the puck and lost it a couple more times in D zone.

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:53 am

    I know you mentioned Gilmour and Pionk had strong games, which I would agree but I’m really loving the way DeAngelo is playing. Give the kid some ice time and man is he confident with the puck. Most noticeable dman for me last night.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 10:18 am

      100% agree……….Big difference in rangers overall game……..when kreider, buch return we might start to win games again, and next year with ronning, andersson and chytil it will be a fun team to root for…….

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:18 am

    I wonder if anyone has noticed the continuing mishandling the puck by Skjei. Yesterday,overskated it leading to a goal. Also mishandled a pass to him. Over the course of the season I have seen him whiff on passes numerous times. Seems on a regular basis. Poor hand eye coordination?

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:25 am

      he’s trying too hard to please, and there may be pressure on the kid, he’ll be OK!!!

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 11:33 am

        Agreed Walt.

        The kid has always needed to be the stronger man on his pairing. Went from 3rd pair up to 2nd this year, and with the idea of McD leaving potentially 1st pair by seasons end.

        This season he has played 1/2 his ice time with an injured Shatty, and another 35% with either Kampfer, Holden, or Smith.

        Not exactly a recipe to feel comfortable that your partner has your back.

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:50 pm

          Full of excuses… I love it how certain fans have that so they can keep the hype wave moving but imo Skjei just hasn’t played well. Hank jumping down his back in between whistles kind of gives me insurance that my eye test is on point. Right now as it stands Skjei is more of a bottom 4 pair who should never get PP time with his below average shot. I expect to see a new face on the 1st pair if Mcd gets traded.

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:05 pm

            Six more assists than your boy Charmin-Soft Kevin Hayes, and only 7 less points overall, as a defenseman in a supposed “down year”. He had 39 points as a rookie last year and the team has collapsed around him this year. Skjei has been the Rangers 2nd best defenseman this season, both in terms of consistency and ability. If every player on this team played as hard as Skjei, they’d be a much better team.

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:48 pm

            In no way am I making any excuses for the kid’s play, I just am making an observation. I could be wrong, or maybe I could be right, who knows, but there is no excuse by my statement though………..

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:17 am

    DeAngelo is special just let the kid do his thing. He’s rushed the puck more in the last three games than the Rangers D all year.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:23 am

      Imagine that Harlem, and we thought we had an offensive genius running the show??????

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:34 am

      I think his play now compared to what we have witnessed in the past might be the result of his being scared in past. Not of the opposition but of the head coach, and seeing bench time and an exodus to CT when he made a mistake. Now AV really doesn’t have many options other than to let him play………..

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:50 pm

        Brillant, again we agree, all non-favorites play with that fear!!!!!!

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 10:26 am

      Spot on!!!!
      DeAngelo looks terrific…..why it took this organization multiple injuries to bring him here is mind boggling……but then again this same organization thought dan boyle was better than anton strallman!!!!!
      Now AV needs to play him consistently and NOT bench him if he makes a mistake, but boy can this guy quickly and accurately pass the puck out of the defensive zone or carry it up the ice!!!!
      Is he making mcdonagh more tradeable????

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:45 pm

        I feel it is because Sather is still a big voice in the room and still in control for the most part. Sather is such an old school guy, always will favor the veteran players on the roster and the most experienced head coaches for the team. I feel Gorton hands are tied somewhat by Sather. At the press conference, i looked at Sather and it was like Emperor Palpatine over seeing his apprentice-

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:53 pm


          You could be on to something, but I still believe that AV isn’t comfortable with kids. You can see it the way he chews his gum, LMAO!

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 6:10 pm


          • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:45 pm

            Walt, don’t talk to Gene, he’s evil.

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 8:08 pm


              Give him a break, I’m the only evil one on this site!!!!!! Smile folks……..

              • Feb 15, 2018 at 6:16 am

                Walt, you sound proud of that designation, lol.

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:23 pm

              Tony loves to pick on me and I just do not know why

              • Feb 15, 2018 at 6:17 am

                Too much material to work with.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 7:45 pm

      Guess TD can play, huh?

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 9:47 am

    Good to see Hayes/Miller/Grabner reunited.

    I think the first time they left the defensive zone last night, was to get on the plane to head back to NY.

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 10:00 am

    Right, not to mention that Hayes scored on assist from Grabner

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 10:45 am

      Which was on the power play. Not on 5×5 where most of the game is played.

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 11:44 am

    Gilmore has been special. I was pissed he got the call instead of Graves but he has shown me a thing or two. I just hope Graves can do the same. I was wrong about Gilmore.

    Pionk is also a keeper.

    Tony D is going to be a star once he matures.

    These kids were the catalysts for last nights game. The Rangers of 10 games back would’ve folded. The game would have turned into a blow out. Losing like that is acceptable, I didn’t have to turn off my TV….which had become a frequent turn of events this year.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:34 pm

      I have to say all 3 look pretty good …..let them make mistakes and learn

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    I was reading ESPN analysis of deadline trade options, and almost started laughing. I didn’t, because I was also considering crying. Do they watch a different team than we do?

    “Holden, 30, has spent most of the season playing top-pair minutes with captain Ryan McDonagh. He’s probably more suited for a depth role on a contending team. He’s a steady defenseman who can rush the puck and join the offense and play a reliable game in the defensive zone.

    Biggest strength: Defensive acumen

    Defensive acumen. Off to urban dictionary with me, so I can define Defensive Acumen as Turnover Machine

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 1:24 pm



    • Feb 14, 2018 at 1:54 pm

      Right on point!!!

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 12:42 pm

    I agree with you, If Sauer was still on the team in the 2013 Stanley cup finals team, Sauer might have been logging those big minutes over Dan Girardi. Might have been a different outcome in those loses to the Kings who roasted Danny G.

    Brandon Crawley in Hartford kinda reminds me of Sauer’s game. Rangers are quietly very high on this prospect.

    • Feb 14, 2018 at 1:08 pm

      You mean in 2014 and not 13? And no people who think like that missed the whole series. In that round and the Tampa series they were outscored, it’s as simple as that. If we didn’t get to see what a competitive 4th line that can chip in than fans would have claimed that’s why we lost. LA won because they had both Kopitar and Carter and we had Stepan. Don’t believe me? Then go check out what normally a “1c” could get you especially in the offseason and now go back to Stepan’s value moments before he was traded, heck go see what the Wild said in the summer of 16.

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 1:55 pm

        right, i meant to say 2014. I was only referencing the series from a defensive/blueline perspective, but you’re right in regards the Rangers were outscored and the Tampa series? yes, AV had to play Glass on the 4th line when he had better options . Rangers should have kept Lee Stempnik and had him on the 4th line with Dominic Moore.

      • Feb 14, 2018 at 2:00 pm

        and what did the Wild say in 2016? The Stepan deal, that is a whole other conversation for another time…ask my close friendTony-Richter94 about it… All I will post on that trade is the Rangers did not have another solid asset to include in the deal to get the player they really wanted from Arizona.

        Straight from my friend at the Coyote organization to my ears after the trade was made and they could share with me what was discussed and so on…

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 3:41 pm

          They have reporters who either have a inside source or get the news directly to them somehow. There were tweets from those reporters at the time claiming that the Wild didn’t think Stepan was worth highly thought prospects or for the young guy on their current team. All they were willing to give was Dumba and like a 3rd rounder. Guys like Coyle and Zucker weren’t going to be had by just Derek Stepan. I think the info matched out because the Wild wanted a center to be as good or better than Koivu to replace him with. At first glance it seems like he could have been the man for the job but when they read into him the idea obviously changed. Add to the fact that guys like Parise have a say in this behind close doors and there was no way that he would vouch for him like he did to Staal this past summer.

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 3:47 pm


            Tell me it isn’t so, people didn’t think Daisy walked on water, how dare they!!!!!!!!!!

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 4:13 pm

            Is this the same Wild who thought Martin Hanzal was worth a 1st Round, a 2nd Round, another conditional draft pick, AND a lesser prospect?

            Sounds like an organization that is “excellent” in evaluating players.

            Also, you’re thinking you know what was going on with the Wild. Gene KNOWS what occurred.

            • Feb 14, 2018 at 6:22 pm

              The Stepan deal is interesting. Stepan was linked to the Wild because people in the media will speculate because Derek is from Hastings, MN. I really do not hear anything last summer regarding Derek and the Wild. I do know the Rangers really like Coyle. Maybe that is something that is spoke about the GM’s come the draft. However, if the Wild do not progress, GM Chuck Fletcher and ownership might go in another direction. That Hanzel deal was bad and Fletcher was at fault for that one.

              GM John Chayka wanted Stepan for the past two-seasons. He was not going to walk away from the deal with Gorton, Gorton needed to move the contract and another NTC on the roster. Gorton really wanted Jakob Chychrun..Chayka was not going to trade Chychrun, only way he would have gone was if AZ kept the #7, Rangers get AZ’s #23 and include a NHL ready prospect, Problem Gorton had? he had no real top NHL Ready prospects to ” well and deal” with. My opinion, i feel some of this “rebuild” is because last summer Gorton knew for him and the Rangers to get a young up an coming player in a deal, he needs assets ( picks, nice pool of prospects). Gorton used his assets to move around in the draft to get Marchand, Lucic and the trade with the Leafs for Rask.

        • Feb 14, 2018 at 4:01 pm

          Lol one of us has to be right about this topic but yes they had to add a player to get 1/4 value bath. Do you want proof? First would be that Stepan value wasn’t your annual “1c” and comparing it with other top 6 centers you will see the difference. Add to the fact that it went down in the offseason, a time of peace and resetting for every team. I thought that was a red flag that made it look worst since there was zero bidding and Yotes took advantage of that. The other clues were like when JG told the public how Raanta wasn’t just some throw in for the trade and that in order to get that draft pick they needed him as part of the trade. I mean I thought that detail of work by JG was good enough of a example because it’s right out there in the open to see and analyze. Another clue was multiple NYR media asking ADA how it felt to be traded for Stepan alone. Amanda B who does pre game interviews and AL both worded there questions in the same fashion to ask the kid how that must have felt. You can thank JG for letting the cat out of the bag but either way anyone can see that the Stepan value was piss poor for a “1c”.

          Ps There were plenty of articles like from Brooks explaining that the 1st rounder doesn’t come unless Raanta goes in a package to help retain Stepan’s value.

          • Feb 14, 2018 at 4:21 pm

            You’ve based your entire argument off of Al Trautwig, Larry Brooks, and the media?

            The same Larry Brooks that one day is in love with AV, the next not. The same media who never ask a tough question to anyone involved with the NY Rangers.

            Honestly, there’s more concrete evidence for the second gunman on the grassy knoll.

  • Feb 14, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    The young people they brought up have injected life into the team. Sure they make some mistakes, but they also have been displaying their skills. If they get to play the rest of the season you will see their confidence grow by leaps and bounds. Even when they lose like last night I still enjoy watching the game. Exciting times to be a Ranger fan even if the circumstances are rather unusual! I am hoping for a decent haul at the trade deadline and for a good draft and off season in which the team gets a good makeover.

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