Feb
02

Turnovers and sloppy play doom Rangers again

February 2, 2018, by
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Different day, same Rangers. The Blueshirts came out sloppy last night, and their turnovers wound up in the back of their net for the first three Leafs goals. It wasn’t just the turnovers, though, as the good guys looked like they couldn’t care less about playing hockey. Now we know that’s not the case, but boy was it convincing.

In a game where the Rangers needed to prove to management that they should buy at the deadline, they laid a giant egg. There was nothing about this game, outside of a Michael Grabner rush and a few Rick Nash chances, that showed the Rangers could turn it around. This goes to show you that when Henrik Lundqvist is even remotely human, the Rangers can’t win.

On to the goals:

Leafs 1, Rangers 0

Ryan McDonagh turned the puck over, which led to scrambling. Zach Hyman got in behind both Nick Holden and Peter Holland for the screen. Justin Holl’s shot looked to go off Hyman.

Leafs 2, Rangers 0

Mats Zuccarello mishandled the puck at the blue line, which led to a turnover. Nikita Zaitsev quickly turned it with a stretch pass to Tyler Bozak, who made a nice touch pass to Connor Brown. Zucc was slow on the back check as well, as James van Riemsdyk got two steps on him. Brown hit him on the tape for the easy tap in.

Leafs 3, Rangers 0

Brady Skjei turned the puck over in the neutral zone, forcing the Rangers to back up. Nazem Kadri had his shot blocked by Skjei, but the rebound went right to Patrick Marleau, who fired it by Hank.

Leafs 4, Rangers 0

Zach Hyman actually had his rush broken up by Marc Staal. But the puck went right to Auston Matthews, who got the puck back to Hyman behind Staal. He just walked right in as Jesper Fast just watched him score. Sure, there was a guy about 10 feet from Fast, but that pass wasn’t a viable option because, 1) lefty, 2) proximity to the net, and 3) distance between skater and net.

Score Adjusted Corsi (even strength)

Lol. Fewer than 30 attempted shots through two periods (25), and only 12 actually got through to Curtis McElhinney. Then the Leafs turtled in the third, but still outshot the Rangers. Amazing.

Even Strength Scoring Chances (not score adjusted)

Woof.

Another game, another 30+ shots on goal allowed by the Rangers. Let’s face it, this team is a tire fire defensively. We’ve covered the many reasons why. At this point, do you think they can legitimately compete in the playoffs?

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96 comments

  1. flatbush says:

    Dave you said it all. My perception is that both coaches and players are in a panic and are focused on what’s going to happen. They are not ready to play and meet the daunting challenge to play 600pct the rest of the way. They will lose to Nashville in Nashville. That should signal a coaching change, both AV and SA. The GM can evaluate who needs to go but the UFA have to go and should get us a good return.

  2. Richter1994 says:

    Dead men skating.

    It’s over for this group boys and girls, including the coach. It’s just a matter of when the purge is going to start.

    Toronto was much faster and quicker, making the Rangers look like, well, me.

    • Stevem says:

      Beyond time to start walking the green mile bro.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Should have been last year bro, but they wanted “another kick at the can.”

        Well, the can kicked back.

      • upstatetom says:

        my 2 new favorite teams, las vegas & nashville, BOTH because of THEIR “WORK ETHIC”. nyr take notice.

        • Stevem says:

          At this point I’m missing the Oakland Seals

          • Fotiu is God says:

            California Golden Seals. Circa white skates. Crazy George in the stands. Beating his drum with the fervor of a meth’d lunatic.

        • Richter1994 says:

          How ugly is the Nasville game going to be tomorrow night?

          I heard Boomer Esiason say that he thought the Ranger players have packed it in. It looked like it.

          • Stevem says:

            The next 7 could be ugly.. we have Carrie Underwood’s team tomorrow, then Dallas, Boston(at least a point in 19 of last 20 games)Calgary, Winnipeg, Minnesota, then the Islanders.. then we get a “break” and play Ottawa..

            • JERRY MALEY says:

              And you know what happened the last time we played the Otts. We broke their losing streak..

            • Richter1994 says:

              Trust me, after the way the Rangers responded last night to “making a run for the playoffs” last night, it won’t be an issue as to what will happen at the trade deadline.

              AV putting McLeod into the line up against a highly skilled team like the Leafs was laughable. Bt the coach saw the absolute need to get Cody in the line up.

              What a complete sh-t show.

        • Fotiu is God says:

          Charleston Chiefs, Upstate Tom. By an Appalachian mile.

          C’mon, man: Reg Dunlop should be the next Blueshirts coach.

    • NYRfaninDC says:

      Last couple of times we played Toronto, I had the same thought as last night. They are a FAST team. They come at you hard on an aggressive forecheck. Rangers had no answer then, and no answer last night.
      Rangers are a team that likes to stretch the play out and make quick-up breakouts to spring odd man rushes. The fast aggressive forecheck nulls that out really well.

      The D-zone scheme clearly isn’t working well. Missed assignments all the time.

      In my opinion, AV has to go. He’s been here long enough and has failed to produce, especially at key moments.

      • Richter1994 says:

        OMG, the Leafs were all over the ice, weren’t they?

        Even their hands were much quicker as it related to taking the puck away. Crisp passes, that part was fun to watch live, unfortunately it was at the expense of making the Rangers look like an AHL team.

  3. James Carr says:

    When the guys wearing the C, McD and the A, Zucc, are responsible for turnovers resulting in goals, it’s bad. Feel like it’s fair to ask were Step and G the true leaders of this team

    • Egelstein says:

      There’s no doubt Girardi was strong in the locker room. I think the right decision was made for the product on the ice (at least the way AV deployed him, which is not how he is deployed in Tampa where he looks much more serviceable and is in a system that fits “traditional” or “shut down” defensemen better). The right decision was made monetarily, as well. I’m sure they weighed his presence in the locker room as part of their decision though, and decided to make the tough call in that regard.

      Stepan was a bit murkier in this are; some reports and rumors suggested he didn’t fit in very well in the locker room. There was also of course the infamous “RELAX!” moment with Hank that, whether or not actually a point of contention between them, was portrayed as such by fans and media.

      • Ray says:

        Since we’ve disagreed a lot of late, I’ll mostly agree here. I think the evidence is that Dan Girardi is not a bad defenseman who is worth more or less what Tampa Bay is paying him. [I actually estimated $2M last year.] But his Ranger contract was clearly an albatross.

        • Egelstein says:

          I think the change from man overload to zone overload has really helped him simplify his game, and his lower usage rate is also better for a set of legs with a lot of miles on them already.

  4. Bloomer says:

    Eddie 3 best buddy Jesper had another stinker game. Fast provides little offense and his defensive game is very overrated. But he’s Av golden boy so he will never see any pinetime.

    • Richter1994 says:

      Fast is the least of the team’s problems my friend.

      • Bloomer says:

        No actually Richter Jesper like a few other of his teammates needs to learn how to play positional discipline hockey. Unfortunately the man behind the bench coaches an one dimensional game. The Rangers have very little team structure and in a hybrid game of hockey they need to be able to adapt.

        I said right from the beginning that AV was a good coach but not a great coach. If the Rangers go into rebuild mode they will have to find someone new to teach the kids the game.

        • Richter1994 says:

          The mistake with Fast is AV making him something that he’s not.

          Fast is a strong 4th liner, that’s it. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

          • Egelstein says:

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            • Richter1994 says:

              You forgot a couple of my faves my friend:

              DD on the PP.
              Tanner Glass instead of anyone.

              • Egelstein says:

                Saying “DD on the PP” out loud sounds rather indecent, or perhaps something to do with potty-training a toddler…haha.

              • Richter1994 says:

                When I’m at MSG and DD steps on the ice for a PP, I break out in a rash whether I see him doing it or not.

                It’s a Pavlovian response.

            • NYRfaninDC says:

              – Fourth Liner Buchnevich (not just Bottom Six)
              – Shutdown pair Staal and Holden
              And then we go back a few years:
              – Thrid Pair Yandle
              – 2nd PP Yandle

              • Egelstein says:

                I thought about going back multiple seasons but the list would have been prohibitively long. 2nd PP Yandle definitely would have been on there.

    • Jerry says:

      Bloomer.
      I agree Fast didn’t have a stellar game (what Ranger did?), but as far as “pinetime” goes, can you imaging what would have happened to Miller if he had the giveaways that Zucc had last night? If any forward needed to sit ala Miller, last night it was Zucc, who plain stunk.

      • Bloomer says:

        Miller has paid the price with benching when he screws up. I guess you missed the Kings game. On the flip side Hayes Miller and Zuc create a lot of offense and if you don’t score you don’t win. If the team keeps their shape then they will be in a better position to recover should there be a turnover.

        Unfortunately, when the whole team is playing pond hockey they are vulnerable to the neutral ice trap. Ottawa last year in the playoffs took full advantage and as a result beat the Rangers in the second round.

        • Jerry says:

          I didn’t miss the King’s game. That was my point. Miller sat for over a half the game for making the same exact egregious giveaway that Zucc made last night.

  5. SalMerc says:

    Is that a fat lady I hear singing?

  6. Richter1994 says:

    So I was trying to give the Rangers the benefit of the doubt on the Mcleod claim, saying that he will help with leadership once all the vets are traded.

    Then I read the coach’s comments about his insertion into the line up over someone like Lettieri and I retract my optimism. They’re just a stupid, stupid team.

    Huh, Matt Martin is a healthy scratch the past 4-5 games and I think the Leafs won them all. Time to re-think the call for “physical” players, no? Physical players usually mean slow skating players that get beat by fast skating players like the Leafs.

    Now, Wayne Simmonds is a physical player that I wold want. Physical and skilled. That’s what we need. Same with Kreider.

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      Poor Mckeod …. He walked into a shitstorm … Hopefully he gets traded to a contender at the trade deadline

      • Richter1994 says:

        I think his type of player is not a desired piece for a contending team or else the Preds just would have kept him for themselves.

        • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

          sarcasm …. I thought Mcleod what have gotten more ice time , as it is he took away 12 minutes of someone that could do something on the ice. He supposedly brings heart. Certainly didn’t happen last night for sure.
          Sell everything

          • Richter1994 says:

            oh, sorry lol.

            I agree my friend, blow it up, coaches and players. And it better not be effing Ruff or Arniel as the replacement.

      • Egelstein says:

        Hopefully he gets sent to the AHL, where his current skill set belongs.

    • Jerry says:

      Kreider needs to become more consistent in each aspect of his game. Maybe under a new coach he will. I hope so, as I’m a fan of his. That said I feel he can be much more of a physical force.
      Players like Simmons and Tom Wilson are consistent.

      While I agree there isn’t any need for a player who adds nothing to a team but the ability to drop the gloves, players like Simmons and Wilson who can play the game along with being a physical force will never go out of style.

      I think Martin not playing is more an artifact of the Leafs showcasing Sammi’s son, Kasperi Kapanen or if not showcasing him, the Leafs seeing what they have in the kid, then a reflection on Martin.

      Martin can play on my fourth line anyday.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Right Jerry, I have zero problem with a tougher player that can play.

        The Leafs chose to go with younger, faster players than Martin the last 4 games and won them all and not only that, won big. Enough said.

    • Swarty says:

      I freaking cannot stand Wayne Simmonds – but i sure would like to see him in a NY Ranger jersey

  7. Walt says:

    Last night’s game can be summed up by saying it was a case of “Air Pollution”, cause it stunk up the place! There is no defense of these guys when they perform like they did……………………

    • Walt says:

      to the 7 who gave me the thumbs down, please tell me I’m wrong, that the team played a wonderful game? what crap, you’re all blind with hate, and are not quite there in the head if you honestly believe that they did play well………

  8. Jerry says:

    Against a Maple Leaf team minus their starting goaltender and two best D-men.

    • Richter1994 says:

      That about sums it up right my friend?

      • Jerry says:

        And I’ll add, who played the night before.

        • Walt says:

          Jerry

          What you failed to mention is they had speed to burn, we looked slow, real slow, and they played like the game meant something. I’ll be interested to see what E3 has to say in defense of AV??? Can’t wait until next season begins!

        • Richter1994 says:

          Right, it looked like the other way around.

          Being there, it looked like they were just going through the motions because the NHL was forcing them to play the game.

          No forecheck, no possession, couldn’t complete simple passes, no defending (either in their own zone nor the neutral zone), no passion, etc.

          • Walt says:

            The atmosphere was more like a funeral last night!

            • Richter1994 says:

              It was a “premium game” because it was the Leafs and they charged accordingly.

              MSG was effing dead, like we all know what’s coming.

  9. wwpd says:

    I think a lot of people will be surprised, if there is a real rebuild, that AV will coach the first couple of years of it. If management thinks it’s got a winning lineup then the coach will fall, but when the brass starts to blame the players, its hard to hold the coach accountable. Seems to me that AV is JG’s guy for now.

    • Swarty says:

      Having AV coach a team of high potential young players (assuming that’s what will have) through a total rebuild or even a semi rebuild would an egregious error of epic proportions.

      Just take a look at Buch’s (clearly the youngster with highest ceiling on this team) deployment under AV for all you need to know on this subject.

      Even Brooks called out AV’s deployment nuts…

      https://nypost.com/2018/01/04/henrik-lundqvists-mvp-level-season-doesnt-have-to-be-his-only/amp/

    • jeff says:

      wwpd…unfortunately for us (the fans) the people that support the team financially…I think you are right. I didn’t see the game, except for the lowlights on the late newscasts, but the team has definitely quit the coach, his staff and the sweater. They are waiting for the shoe to drop, and I blame JG! These players can’t possibly be as bad as I’ve read. They are human. Most don’t want to leave and by playing like crap are devaluing the return that can be had for them. I have to laugh at all the number 1 draft choices my fellow fans think can be gotten for these guys. Look if they can dog the NYR they can dog anyone. If I were a GM no one on this roster would get a #1 from me….a 2 maybe if the NYR eat some of the salary. Its going to be a long ride back boys.

  10. Peter says:

    The Rangers could not get out of their zone or make it through the neutral zone without relentless Leafs forecheckers all over them. I remember when the Rangers used to play that way. The Leafs have a lot of young an quick players. That is what hockey is going to look like for a long time, players with speed and skill will dominate the game. Cody McLeod is an anachronism on skates.

    Rick Nash and Tony DeAngelo had 4 shots each out of the mere 25 the Rangers had as a team. In other words, except for a burst by Grabner, this is what a shutout looks like.

    • Bloomer says:

      I miss the days when the Rangers took away the oppositions time and space. They also all got back and collapsed in front of Lundqvist blocking shot taking away passing and shooting lanes. Now if I want to watch that kind of hockey I watch a CBJ or Tampa game.

  11. Eugene says:

    My take for the next game:

    1. Buch out for concussion.

    2. Carrey instead of him

    3. ADA sent to HFD, because Staals and Holden turnovers/loose position

    4. Kempfer in

    5. AV continue to chew 🙂

  12. Andy says:

    I walked away thinking wow these guys really could care less. a few thoughts.
    1. in what universe is Nick Holden a top D man?
    2. Fast has lost interest too it seems…highly unusual.
    3. Tough night for Hank but it happens

    On the plus side.
    1. DeAngelo had a decent game. 4 SOG, 1 gva 0 rating just under 20 minutes of ice time/
    2. watching Michael Grabner smoke Matthews on that break should boost his trade value
    3. This management team (ex Allaire) keeps making the case for them being gone, but I would keep them around until the end of the season. Their terrible decisions will help us with draft positioning.

    If there was an chance this team had a shot at going anywhere this year, that idea should have been completely shut down after last night …injuries aside this team can’t compete with Toronto, Tampa, the Penns, Vegas…

    • Swarty says:

      Their terrible decisions will help us with draft positioning.

      Absolutely Brilliant!!!!

      Keep them for sure..

      • Andy says:

        I won’t kid you…if there is any chance we could draft Rasmus Dahlin…I am in on that..so if tanking helps that cause..fine by me…I realize it’s a real long shot…but just trying to be realistic and optimistic in the face of a tough season

        • Egelstein says:

          With 22 more points than AZ and with how bad they are, NYR could lose every game remaining and even if AZ was trying their best to win, the Rangers still could finish with more points. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s in the cards for us outside of some sort of trade scenario that lands the number one pick…which I’d cringe to think what that cost might be, even if the Rangers had the pieces needed.

    • Richter1994 says:

      spot on Andy, I was there and came away with similar thoughts.

  13. odielicious says:

    I thought this was a good first game back.

    Time on Ice reflects that what everyone says is not necessarily true about AV. He let the kids play and barely had Staal on the ice. He show cased that skjei might not be as ready as everyone thinks and that he was playing sheltered minutes.

    At this point I don’t care about the score of the game. I want to see the players that are brought up from AHL and the guys like skjei prove themselves. Vesey was the leading forward in TOI. And he had a relative good game.

    It is just like the Manning situation …play the stars to win but as soon as the game is tanked give the ice time to the young guys and see if they can learn. Av did a better job as a coach then the giants head coach. IMO none of the goals were weak ones hank let in and he just pulled him and let pav play and for what it is worth the ship stopped leaking. If it is a close game play the star players but once it gets sloppy just throw out the rookies and sophomores and lets see how they do. This way no one important gets hurt in a meaningless game.

    • Ray says:

      Always yank a starting goalie who gives up four quick ones. If he is having a bad day, you get him out of there. If it really isn’t his fault, the team is embarrassed and tightens up.

  14. jrrangersdad says:

    Well that was nice of MSG to bring the Wolfpack team down last night to play an NHL game. Brutal! I thought my 7yo son’s games could be lopsided. Start dealing before our trade value gets dragged down by the rest of the team.

    Good point about double standard with Zucc/Miller. Horrible point for whoever pointed out Fast’s game. You must have been really bored. AV is a deployment disaster! Can’t wait for him to go. Miller and Hayes would be different players for a coach that didn’t talk out of both sides of his mouth.

    Vesey continues to show his hustle! I think McLeod was brought in to protect AV from his players.

    • Ray says:

      Double standards are what reasonable people use. First of all, you hold young people to a higher standard because they are teachable. To use an extreme case, a coach who would bench Rick Nash to get him to adjust his game is a moron. Desirable or not, it won’t happen. Second, you bench players for poor judgment or lack of effort, not for poor execution (unless it means they are just not good enough). Players know they need to execute better; you don’t have to tell them. Third, when it comes to poor judgment, it matters whether or not it is part of a pattern. Do you want the player to change the way he thinks or not? You want players to be careful, but not TOO careful.

      Finally, Zuccarello is a delicate case. He loves being a Ranger and the wind seems to be blowing in such a way that his Ranger days are coming to an end. Doing something to break his spirit may not be the best idea.

      • jrrangersdad says:

        Try using a double standard in a marriage with 2 adults and let me know how that ends up. You start to stop listening. And no, I have a very good 15 year marriage. Regardless of age, consequences are the only thing that can change behavior. No one on the team should be above it as it changes the message to young players. Sorry but we don’t have Crosby or McDavid on this team. They all need to man up, especially AV!!!!

        • Ray says:

          Ridiculous. Marriage. Are you advocating treating all of my wives equally?

          “Regardless of age, consequences are the only thing that can change behavior.” Just because nothing but consequences works doesn’t mean that consequences work. The reality is that there is absolutely nothing that AV can do that will change Lundqvist’s approach to the game, to cite the oldest example (except maybe an insightful comment that rings true). Disciplining Hank is stupid (and this has nothing to do with his ability level).

  15. Al Dugan says:

    After watching our game last night, I flipped over to Winnipeg against Vegas.

    It was light years different. Both teams checked, both teams went with speed, and it was an exciting game.

    We tend to over value our own players. There are guys on this Ranger team who could not make a difference in Winnipeg or Vegas, and we think we’re going to get a number one or two for them. We are dreaming.

    • Peter says:

      I watched the Jets beat Tampa Bay the other night. That is a good club in Winnipeg.

    • Leatherneck says:

      I gave you the thumbs down….because I actually think we can get a haul….however it has to be a complete rebuild….sell….It can’t be half assed with the idea they will compete again next year…that methodology has to be avoided….
      Tear it down JG

      • Richter1994 says:

        The only player I don’t know about if your fave. If you force me to make a prediction then I say that the King would rather stay in NY than go elsewhere.

        The only landing spot that would make sense is Chicago with Crawford’s career in doubt. But they have issues too and would not guarantee a Cup either.

        If Lundqvist had one more year then maybe, but he’s got 3 more I believe. I do not think that he wants to leave NY.

        • Leatherneck says:

          Then we will continue on the path of mediocrity and all for 1 man. I know how I would’ve handled him

          Sad to think one player could hold that much leverage over a team

          • Richter1994 says:

            I have the utmost respect for you for your service to our country, which I thank you. But I do not get how you do not see how many wins this man has accounted for during the last 13 years. Most of which he got single handedly.

            As opposed to his teammates, past and present, who have hung him out to dry and undermined his greatness. The King’s stats should be even better than they are.

        • jrrangersdad says:

          I think Chicago would be an ideal landing place but their cap situation is pretty ugly.

          • Richter1994 says:

            That’s exactly what I mean by Chicago having their issues. I do not think that they could even fit Hank under the cap.

        • Swarty says:

          Agree Richter – Hank is a big city guy and that limits the destinations.

          I think Los Angeles would work but they are not going to move Quck for a couple years of Hank.

          Chicago could work but as you mentioned, cap and Crawford are deterrents.

          Toronto has the cap space, the big city hockey atmosphere, and is on the fringe of being a long-term contender. And they have the assets?

          • Richter1994 says:

            After all is said and done, what landing spots are there for the following:

            #1 Chance to win the Cup.
            #2 Contender that need a goalie like him.
            #3 A contender that can fit his cap hit over the next 3 years.

            There’s no landing spots or hardly any that Henrik would agree to be moved to.

            • Rich S says:

              R1994
              I am not sure, but doesnt hank make about 8 million? I cant see any team willing to pay that and assume the rest of the contract. I dont even know if you could give him away with that contract.
              I am not 100% sure but doesn’t this team have about 10 number one draft picks on the roster? Or highly sought after college free agents?
              This is a coaching issue, plain and simple…..it appears that the players have stopped playing for AV, and its way overdue for some new coaching blood, IMHO.
              And Letteri sitting for Mcleod?????

              • Richter1994 says:

                Hey Rich.

                Yep $8.5M per for the next 3 years. I posted in the other thread that Brooks interviewed Henrik and the King said he’s staying no matter what the Rangers do at the trade deadline so that seals that.

                They have to clean house my friend, both coaches and players.

      • CTfan says:

        Or better yet, include Sather/Gorton in the complete rebuild.

  16. Ray says:

    Hmmm. So the Rangers are planning to be sellers at the deadline. The captain and a guy wearing an A are both on the block. Ditto the leading goal scorer and Rick Nash, who always plays hard. And the team seems to have lost its spirit, who could have guessed?

  17. Ray says:

    Things are looking up in Hartford and they are only 6 points out of the playoffs at this juncture. What would be really nice if kids like Chityl, Andersson, Lettieri, Nieves, Pionk, Crawley got the chance to make the playoffs and have a decent run. True competition and winning builds confidence and cohesion.

    A lot more valuable than being overmatched on a bad team, which may just happen if a bunch of them get called up.

    • jrrangersdad says:

      Ray, I don’t mean to hammer all your posts but they seem to have bulls eyes on them. So you are advocating bringing up the 5-6 most ready AHL members we have in order to have a playoff run? Dude, the Wolfpack are 3rd or 4th place in their division. What makes you think the NHL teams are worse than AHL teams? Heh, at least you provide for good Friday afternoon entertainment. Way to keep us on our toes.

      • Ray says:

        ???????

        Actually, the Wolfpack are 6th in their division and -as I said – 6 points out of the playoffs at this time. I would like to see these guys make a run at the Calder Cup, not the Stanley Cup. Long term, I think that is the best thing for their development and so for the Ranger future.

        So I am NOT anxious to see these guys in NY.

        I will say things that you don’t agree with, perhaps often, but I don’t say stupid things. They only seem stupid because very few people read carefully.

  18. Peter says:

    Perhaps Toronto was just physically that much better last night and that is why they beat the Rangers to the puck so consistently thru the first 2 periods. I want to see more forechecking by the forwards; the lack thereof was my biggest gripe when watching the game.

    Look, if young players like Skjei, Buchnevich, Vesey and DeAngelo get a lot of ice time, and if they eventually part with some of their older players at the deadline, I can watch the games with inner peace even if they lose if they give effort and the young players gain experience. All the above except Buch played almost 20 minutes last night.

    DeAngelo had a pretty solid game. So far he has been playing conservatively, trying to be responsible in his own end. That is a good thing because if he turns it over too much or is out of position too much AV will sit him I am sure. I suspect that they will see more offence from him as he gets more acclimated to the team and the system, gaining confidence. Vesey’s efforts were noticeable too.

    • Bloomer says:

      I share the same observation in regards to Vesey and DeAngelo. I get the impression that Tony has come to the realization that he is running out of chances and he needs to make the most of this one. Should the Rangers move their UFAs at the trade deadline, I would like to see their younger players get some more icetime, so they can display what they got for talent.

  19. james geoghegan says:

    get out the golf clubs