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Potential trade target: Charlie Coyle

December 21, 2017, by

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As the need for another center grows, as does the wild speculation of who the Rangers want. It started with Matt Duchene, but that didn’t happen. Derick Brassard makes sense, but the Rangers like trading for guys under 30 years old. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins sounds nice in theory, but can Edmonton really trade another top-five pick?

Usually we like to look at teams out of the playoff hunt for potential fixes. It fits the Rangers’ M.O. But there aren’t many appealing options on the teams already out of the hunt. So that leaves the Rangers with a need to look for a center on a team in the playoff hunt, that has center depth, and potential holes elsewhere in the lineup.

Minnesota is my go-to for these situations, since the Rangers have been linked to them on major rumors over the past two seasons. Nothing has materialized, although there might be a fit now involving Charlie Coyle.

For the Rangers, Coyle makes a ton of sense. He’s a C/RW, so he won’t be a block for Lias Andersson or Filip Chytil. He’s young (25) and cost controlled (two more years after this at $3.2 million), so he’s not a rental. He’s fast and skilled, so it fits with their recent philosophy.

For Minnesota, they have a glut of center depth (Coyle, Granlund, Koivu, Staal, Ennis, Winnik), with the first five signed to multi-year deals. They have first rounder Luke Kunin also waiting in the wings in the AHL. Their position of strength is center.

The Wild also have a cap concern, with new contracts headed to Matt Dumba and Jason Zucker. Both are going to get big raises. If the Wild hope to retain both and fill the UFA holes, then they might need to shed some salary.

Minnesota also appears to need some younger defensemen, which just so happens to be an area of strength for the Rangers. Might someone like Anthony DeAngelo, who seems to have finally found his groove in Hartford, be a good starting point in negotiations? What about Ryan Graves? Obviously more needs to be added on the Rangers end (assume draft picks after the first round), but there could be a good framework here.

These two teams actually make good trading partners in a C for D swap. Don’t expect the Wild to take on Nick Holden or Marc Staal, that’s a pipe dream. But there is room for a real hockey trade between these two clubs. Personally, turning Derek Stepan into Lias Andersson and Charlie Coyle (assuming a DeAngelo swap) seems like a win to me.

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16 comments

  1. Arisrules says:

    I am confused why we need a center. The emergence of Boo, production of Desharnais, and execution of Hayes have all mitigated this massive pre-season issue. Plus Miller has shown he can play in the hole. We are fine there. Not only that, but Carey’s emergence and Grabner continuing to score means we are a threat from all four lines.

    When the off-season started the team had three big questions:

    1. Will be AV be AV?; 2. Is Hank still Hank?; and 3. what is going on with our centers.

    The second and third questions have incredibly worked in our favor. But AV has been horrific, and nobody expected so many key d-zone personnel to underperform (Smith has been a nightmare). I am not sure how we fix the tactics in the dzone as AV is stuck to his ways. But thankfully our goaltenders have picked up the slack for the league worst 5v5 defense.

    • Joe Cafaro says:

      AV gets fixed when we exit round 1 due to huge D lapses owing to stubborn process

    • Egelstein says:

      You can never really have too much center depth, and while I hate to give up on prospects too soon, it appears ADA may have actually managed to already get dog-housed here at both levels. I think if you can get Coyle for something like ADA and a third, you do that given the depth of young defensemen on the farm.

      Chytil and Andersson are unfortunately not guaranteed to ever play significant NHL minutes – let alone be ready to do so next year or even the year after. Desharnais has been a feel-good story, but you never let a marginal player who is on the back-end of his career block a chance to upgrade with youth who may not have even peaked yet. I like Boo’s toolkit at 4C, but he’s far from a lock to be a consistent NHL producer, and he has had a bit of an injury history. Hayes will be here next year unless they decide to trade him, but he can’t be taken for granted past then until he is under contract past then, and all. Coyle, like Miller, can be deployed successfully on the wing as well, and as I am aware, no coach has ever complained about having too many guys like that.

      I agree with you that the center situation has not been as major of a problem as it could have been or even as much as we expected it to be, even with Mika out. However…the Rangers have been winning in some fairly mysterious ways, lately (I just coughed in a manner that sounded an awful lot like “Hank”), and if they truly see no future for ADA here already, then perhaps it might be best to cut bait now if it fetches a player like Coyle in return if the price is right.

      • Peter says:

        Actually ADA seems to be picking it up in Hartford. Not sure why you put him in the doghouse there. I am one of the few who likes that kid, and it is because I saw what he can do when allowed to lug the puck up the ice and join in the rush when he was with Arizona. That being said, a trade for someone like Coyle in a swap for Tony or Graves makes sense. I’d not want to send Sean Day.

        As far as Chytil and Andersson are concerned, I think you are underselling both of them. I think that in a couple of years both of those kids will be ZNHL centers.

        • Egelstein says:

          I don’t personally dislike ADA’s game, nor do I think Chytil or Andersson will not end up being NHL players in some capacity, barring catastrophic injury. None of the sentences in which I address those players contain any critical opinions that I hold, or any certainties. However, last I heard, ADA was struggling to get minutes in Hartford, which I would not consider a good thing. As for Chytil and Andersson, no matter how much I may like both of them (granted, for different reasons, since they are very different players)…same as any prospect, a productive NHL career is never a guarantee.

    • RichS says:

      Spot on comments Arisrules….
      With hayes,zib,miller, desharnais, boo, chytil, andersson we have & centers…..5 NHL caliber centers…… most likely 2 more next year……
      AV will never change…..the same things he is doing here he did in vancouver and eventually it led to his downfall….another premature exit in playoffs and that should be it for him……
      The abundance of talent up front , Hank and 3 really good defensemen are saving his job…

      • Egelstein says:

        Desharnais should not be a long-term part of the Rangers plans. Feel-good story for sure, but not The Answer.

        Boo has had a good start, but still can’t necessarily be looked at as a lock who can’t possibly be upgraded upon.

        Miller has enjoyed more success at winger, even if he has looked pretty decent at center this year as needed.

        Chytil and Andersson may not even be on the NHL team yet next year.

        Mika and Hayes are the only two centers that are cemented to this roster for next season, far as I am concerned.

    • Lace says:

      I like Coyle a lot. I think he was on that US WJC team with Stepan and Kreider if I’m not mistaken. In any event I would rather them add depth to the top 6 NHL defensemen. They could use a right handed forward and a winger at that. Our only other one (Fast) is now on the shelf for 2-3 weeks. However, (a large) part of their possession woes stem from inability to limit shots and attempts against. They don’t get that many shots for so they need to do a better job of limiting high quality shots on an aging Lundqvist. For the right player, I would trade a young defenseman like D’Angelo for a nhl puck mover. The top 9 righty winger you guys may be set on but I’m leaning towards the back end for a trade target.

  2. tanto says:

    Re: our center depth next year, does anyone really believe AV will play TWO rookies at center next year? I bet your collective heads just exploded.

  3. James says:

    Coyle is a good target. I like the idea and he brings a little size to the linuep of well…almost like a more offensive version of Brian Boyle.

  4. Walt says:

    All of last season Doc Paul, whom I miss his posts this year, talked about Charlie Coyle, and always said he was a very good fit for this team, just happened to be spot on.

    People fail to recognize that Charlie also plays the wing, and you never have enough depth to cover all your positions, just look at JT, and what he is doing at the center position this season. Coyle would be a wonderful addition due to all the mentioned factors, size, speed, price controlled, age, and ability to give AV options should the need arise!

    If the cost is ADA, so be it……….

  5. Randy says:

    All for a swap to get Coyle as long as it does not involve a Chytil, Andersson, or Skjei. He is big, skillled, and would fit in with the culture of the team nicely.

  6. Eugene says:

    With Nieves is ok, don’t see need in Coyle

    • James1090 says:

      Coyle is a better player than Nieves. Much more skilled. He also gives you flexibility since he can play both center and wing.

  7. Richter1994 says:

    Yes please on Coyle. I like his game and he wold do well here. If it took DeAngelo and Graves then I think I do it. Neither one is apparently in the short term Ranger plans and who knows if their in the long term plans either?