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Game 33: Matinee(ish) in Boston

December 16, 2017, by
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AP Photo/Frank Franklin II

After last night’s win against the Kings, the Rangers travel to Boston for a kinda-sorta matinee, with a 5pm start. I always found the 5pm starts to be a weird time. I get the 1pm start. I get the 12pm start, even if I hate it. I even get the 3pm start, assuming there’s a 12pm start before it on national TV. But the 5pm on MSG+2? I dunno.

As for the Bruins, they started off poorly, but have gone on a run to make themselves relevant in the pretty terrible Atlantic Division. Seriously, outside of Tampa and Toronto, there are a whole bunch of mediocre or outright bad teams. Boston being in third in the division isn’t exactly a sign of success. That said, they have enough talent up front to surprise teams, especially with Tuukka Rask in net.

Bruins Systems

For years, the Bruins had Claude Julien at the helm. But now it’s Bruce Cassidy. I have no insight into what style he will have the Bruins playing. Stay tuned.

I know I said this last time they played, and I’ve been slacking in this department. I also can’t watch the game, have family plans. I promise I’ll update this before the season ends.

For more on these systems, check out our Hockey Systems page.

Bruins Lines 

Brad Marchand-Patrice Bergeron-David Pastrnak
Jake Debrusk-David Krejci-Anders Bjork
Danton Heinen-Riley Nash-David Backes
Tim Schaller-Sean Kuraly-Noel Acciari

Zdeno Chara-Charlie McAvoy
Torey Krug-Brandon Carlo
Matt Grzelcyk (I’d like to buy a vowel)-Kevan Miller

PP1: Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak-Heinen-Krug
PP2: Backes-Krejci-Debrusk–Where did all the vowels go?-McAvoy

Tuukka Rask gets the start.

Rangers Lines

Chris KreiderDavid DesharnaisPavel Buchnevich
Jimmy VeseyKevin HayesRick Nash
Michael GrabnerJT MillerMats Zuccarello
Paul CareyBoo NievesJesper Fast

Ryan McDonaghNick Holden
Brady SkjeiKevin Shattenkirk
Marc StaalBrendan Smith

PP1: Kreider-Zuccarello-Desharnais-Buchnevich-Shattenkirk
PP2: Nash-Miller-Vesey-Hayes-McDonagh

Henrik Lundqvist gets the start.

Scratches/Injuries: Mika Zibanejad (concussion), Steven Kampfer (healthy)

Crazy Prediction: No unplugged controllers all game.

Game time is 5pm. Be sure to follow on Twitter for gifs, and on our Snapchat for in-game.

Categories : Game Thread

51 comments

  1. Hockey Sittoo says:

    Hank, not Ondrej. Not sure about the logic there but hoping the “Ancient King” holds up…

    • Richter1994 says:

      Expect Hank to play just about every game so even if the Rangers make the playoffs, he will be nice and worn out by then.

  2. Joe Cafaro says:

    This Bruins team is being led effectively by Bruce Cassidy. After a run of brutal injuries they are healthy and while Chara Marchand and Bergeron anchor them it’s the young guys like Schaller, Kuraly, and rising stars like Anders Bjork, Jake Debrusk, and Charlie McAvoy who are all progressing at a rapid rate, especially McAvoy who pairs with Chara and is on a more meteoric rise. Guy skates shoots and has typical Boston edge to his game. We live in Boston and as much as I dislike them I’m impressed with their energy and speed with toughness.

    • Bobby B says:

      I would love to have McAvoy on the Rangers, he does play with an edge. I would love to have anyone on the Rangers who plays with an edge!.

    • Walt says:

      Joe

      Funny I mentioned the Bruins the other day as a team to look out for, and the way they built their team, and was scoffed at again. Seems like I don’t know sh*t about the game according to some……………

  3. HOF19 says:

    Short turn around but gotta keep it rolling…..LETS GO RANGERS !!!!!

  4. Bloomer says:

    Waaaaaay offsite

  5. Stevem says:

    We look like CRAP!!!

  6. Stevem says:

    Shoot the damn puck Hayes

  7. HOF19 says:

    Grabner (with some luck ) !!!!!

  8. Mythdoc says:

    Hello! A little vacation for me so I thought I’d take part in a conversation or two. Lots has changed since I last posted, right before the Vegas game, when the wolves were howling for AV’s blood. I am pretty pleased by what has happened since. I’m sure his detractors here are not so pleased, even with our excellent record since that point.

    Anyway, greetings to all of you! LGR

  9. HOF19 says:

    How about a PP goal . AND JT heard me !!!!!

  10. Stevem says:

    Beauty by Millsy.. great pass from the Captain

  11. Bloomer says:

    Now that’s a beauty…McDonough seeing eye pass to JT who tucks it home. Henk and the untouchables go up by 2.

  12. Bloomer says:

    Man… Chara can still rifle the puck. Cuts Ranger lead by half. Zuc Shattenkirk Miller Nash and Skjei putting on a Harlem Globetrotters show in the Bruins end to the displeasure of the Beantown fans.

  13. Mythdoc says:

    I know the Boston boys on our team would love to have a victory to celebrate tonight. One more good period, boys!!

  14. RichS says:

    5 Penalties against rangers????? One against hayes was a joke…….looks like referees want to keep game close for boston!!!

    • Richter1994 says:

      Before the Zuc slashing penalty when the Rangers had them pinned in, the Bees could have been called 3 times.

    • RichS says:

      Zuccarello crosschecked ….. as Sam says how many times ???/
      After Desharnais gets tripped by Chara….after Smith gets tripped…….
      Referees doing their best to help Bruins …….

  15. Leatherneck says:

    refs are brutal

    • roadrider says:

      Well they did call those two too-many-men penalties on Boston. So there’s that.

      • RichS says:

        Too many men penalties are too obvious to ignore, usually the other teams bench will start yelling at the referee and linesmen immediately and it is more of an objective than subjective penalty.

  16. Leatherneck says:

    Here comes overtime…..for me its bite the knuckles time as I think we are gonna lose on a cheap goal….Rangers prove me wrongggggg

  17. Mythdoc says:

    Hank saves a point with a kick save! OT!

  18. Leatherneck says:

    WTF Zuke….you needed to shoot that

  19. HOF19 says:

    Shoot !!!!!!!….And Zucci does it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  20. Bloomer says:

    Hobbit magic wins it in OT.

  21. Mythdoc says:

    WIN BABY!!!

  22. Dan says:

    Zucccccccccc!! What a shot!

    4 points in 24 hours! What a huge two nights. And yes, these refs were turrrrrible today.

  23. HOF19 says:

    We win our next game….After that lets shoot for 10 games above .500….LETS GO RANGERS !!!!!

  24. Peter says:

    Watched it while making chili for my wife and daughter. Somehow I managed not to mess up the cooking. Exciting game, nice road win.

  25. Ray says:

    Since we talked about McD, he’s had a great 6+ periods. The whole D looked better these last 2 games, though they still needed magic from Nash, Zuc, and Hank.

    I was yelling at the TV before the last PPG….no way that could have been a legal change (knowing 2 were trapped and then seeing 2 back). Nice job by Zuc….after a long 1st shift in OT, I was saying what Sam was, expecting Nash.

    We miss Zib. Desharnais is giving all he can, but Kreider and Buch are clicking and need a more talented C.

  26. Trade Bait says:

    Yeah, McD has recovered big time last 2 games, even absorbing a couple of brutal hits. Difference maker.

    • Stevem says:

      Best 2 games of the season from Mac this weekend. Hopefully he keeps it going

    • Chris F says:

      Too bad Rangers amateur medical staff didn’t force McDonagh to undergo surgery.

      Clearly, they rushed him back.

      😉

  27. Ray says:

    I can’t get into the “refs terrible” stuff just based on numbers. I do agree we could have gotten a few more PPs, but thought we deserved the penalties we got….and the 2 by Zuc and Desharnais were terrible plays. Kills me to say that about Zuc, but offensive zone retaliation crosscheck when we had them on the ropes….bad.

    When Desharnais got the holding the stick penalty, anyone else think of the Callahan penalty in the outdoor game against the Flyers? We’re about to ice the game, and I’m ready for the hooking call with Cally ahead….and they called him for holding the stick. Ok, maybe it was just me….

  28. Hockey Sittoo says:

    Hank is on fire. So glad AV isn’t doing the arbitrary number of games this year. That being said, I hope Pavs is in net on Monday…😄

    • King Sieveqvist ! King Sieveqvist ! says:

      Right on Sittoo … Hank made some good saves early on and loved the Old School “Kick Save and. Bute ” at the end ..( oh E3 where art thou ! Lmao ) ….. Hayes needs to shoot the freakin puck ! I was screaming Why Zuc ( he was gassed ) and DD on the OT power play and he hits the corner ! What a shot ! …. Got scared and seen the game slipping away middle of the 2nd

  29. Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

    Greetings all….been a busy week and I spent a part of yesterday catching up on all the threads of the last few days. Some random thoughts….

    1) I’m not sure if any of you are familiar with the Disney Channel hit show, “That’s So Raven”, but I couldn’t get that out of my head for some reason when the Rangers got just one out of three points vs the Stars and Sens. I told a friend of mine, “you watch, they’ll find a way to get at least 3 points now against the Kings and Bruins. And they get all four. Look bad vs beatable teams, then rise up vs two of the hotter teams in the league on back to back games. Of course! Should we REALLY have been surprised? This Fall on MSG, tune in to see “That’s So Rangers”!

    2) About six weeks ago, I looked at my alma mater’s college hoop schedule. The non-conference games were mostly against a bunch of cupcake teams, with a few top 25 beasts sprinkled in. The outcomes of those games were, for the most part, as predictable as the sun rising in the morning. And looking ahead, most fans have a pretty good idea how their conference games will go, too. Same drill for college football. Even the NFL has few surprises (beyond point spreads). But with all respect to the BSB crew who are trying to handicap the Rangers’ week….good luck with that. The NHL is the most balanced league in sports. There should be no outrage when we lose to the likes of Ottawa, anymore than there should be over the top praise when we beat the Kings, the Pens or the Bolts. This league is just too balanced for there to be any real surprises in a single regular season game. (I say again….Edmonton 7 Columbus 2)

    3) BTW, after the BSB boards went nuts after the team had the “gall” to lose to the likes of the Stars and Sens, I wondered if Islanders and Canadiens fans thought the same thing when the Stars and Sens then proceeded to make those teams look even worse. It’s hockey. It happens. Chill.

    4) I see the Islanders sent Josh Ho-sang back to the AHL. Word was Weight was losing patience with the kid, who despite his upside was making a plethora of mistakes. The Islanders HC sent him to the 4th line, reduced his playing time, and now he’s in Bridgeport (hmmm..sound familiar?). This is two years in a row that the kid has seen his time split between the AHL and NHL. Proving once again that even a highly touted prospect like Ho-sang can have a REAL tough time making the jump from the AHL to the NHL.

    So I wonder again, do Islanders fans think that Weight “hates” the kids like AV supposedly does (Wait…or should I say “weight”?, I thought AV was the ONLY coach who treats kids so badly!). Come on….just leave Ho-sang alone and let him play, right? Why should wins and losses matter? Everyone deserves a chance to play!!!! (Or so I’ve been hearing ad nauseum out here!). Actually, I have a theory on Weight. I think the former Ranger is still traumatized by the 1993 trade that sent him to the Oilers for Elsa Tikkanen. He doesn’t realize it, but he is acting out his pent-up hostilities, and taking it out on Ho-Sang. In his sub-conscience, he’s thinking, if I didn’t get a chance to make it in NY as a kid, why should I let Josh succeed?

    Yep….it could be that. Or more likely, there is a more normal, dare I say “sane” explanation. That it can take time to develop as a young player, and giving a young player that time to properly develop in the AHL has a better chance to result in a successful outcome than rushing a kid who likely is not ready. The player and the team stands to lose more than they will gain.

    I say again, quoting Pink Floyd, “Hey, BSB, leave them kids alone!” Until they are ready.

    5) We haven’t heard from our resident pretend physician in quite some time regarding McDonagh. But I see this week some others decided to pick up his stethoscope and give their own fake diagnosis. It couldn’t possibly be that earlier in the week, McDonagh had a bad game. No. He’s hurt. He needs surgery. Of course. Then the Rangers play back to back games and he plays great. So what’s the diagnosis now? The quacking from the “quacks” has suddenly gone quiet! 🙂

    Look, it may well be that McDonagh is playing hurt. It may well be that he will need surgery at some point. Most NHL players play hurt. Only in the most drastic situation do you go with season-ending surgery as a solution. There is no reason at all to overreact. McDonagh on the whole has been pretty good, despite whatever injury issues he might have.

    6) So, for the award for the most insane post of the week, I don’t remember who it was but the post essentially said—“AV/Ruff/Arniel—the worst NHL coaching staff in the league!” Interesting. The Rangers have been the hottest team in the league since Halloween, showing incredible character and resiliency following their horrible start to the season. They are one of the best third period teams in the league, showing that they will never quit. They have been great in back to back games this year and over the years. They go 3-2-1 in a brutal stretch when they play six games in nine nights—and they did that plus all of their December success (5-2-1) without their number one center. Oh, and by the way, these so-called inept assistants—Ruff and Arniel, are largely responsible for what is right now the 6th best PP in the league (second year in a row in the top 10 after about a decade of PP ineptitude) and 8th best on the PK (dramatic turnaround after two horrible post-Hagelin seasons).

    Yep, I’m convinced. This team is just screaming for coaching changes. Right.

    (BTW, interesting to note that when Ulfie was here, everyone was screaming for him to be canned. Now Ruff is the new whipping boy. But when Beuke was here? Crickets. Guess all it takes is win a SC as a player 23 years ago and you get immunity for life—whether you can actually coach or not!)

    7) Hank and his workload. First of all, kudos to Hank, who has been brilliant and has quieted down his haters, who still seem to revel in every mistake. Hank just continues to build his case as one of the greatest Rangers ever, and perhaps the best goalie of this generation, given the lack of star power around him. Those who don’t appreciate him…well, I feel sad for you.

    Some have brought up the concern about whether Hank is being overused at the moment. With a 35 year old goalie, it’s more than a valid concern. But we have to understand a few things. Hank is not just any 35 year old. He’s Hank. He’s an extraordinary athlete and a future HOF. He hasn’t shown a penchant for being injury prone (other than fluky stuff). He thrives on work, and is especially remarkable in back to back games in his career and this season. And the fact is, the schedule has been such that playing him this much isn’t really a big deal. Even in this brutal stretch of games, it was probably reasoned by AV and Benny that it’s not much of an issue with the holiday break coming up. No different than using your relievers a lot before the All-Star Break in baseball.

    But I can see it all now. If Hank gets hurt, or if he does tire, the knives will be out. “AV is to blame…fire him! Hank should have been saved for the playoffs.” The “knife gang” will neglect to mention that the Metro Division is shaping up to be the most competitive and most balanced division perhaps in the history of pro sports, with just eight points separating 1st place Washington from last place Carolina—and the Canes and Flyers, the division bottom feeders, are two of the hottest teams in the league!

    The result of all this—every game is HUGE,,,and they are huge RIGHT NOW. I love the faulty “burnout” logic, because of course, those who subscribe to it aren’t considering the alternative. If you rest Hank now, you may well be forced to play him in EVERY game in March just to make the playoffs at all! So what are we saving him for? I’d much rather go for it now, hopefully get some separation, and then perhaps be in a better position to rest Hank in Feb-Mar and early April. The last thing we want is a scramble to the finish line (which might be inevitable anyway). Then you truly risk a burnout…for Hank and the whole team.

    BTW, for context, Hank has played one more game than Bobrovsky, but the Bob has played more minutes because when Hank has “one of those games” he gets pulled. So he gets rest that way to an extent. Torts is going with his best, as he should. AV is doing the same—as he should.

    8) I was happy for Gaborik the other night. Worked out well. He shined and Rangers won. But I wonder if anyone felt as I did. Watching Gaborik, a true sniper, made me realize once again what we have missed since Torts chased him out of town. (I see Brooks wrote about this today but this was on my mind before Brooksie’s column). Always wondered what would have happened if AV had come to the rescue a year earlier—can you imagine Gabby in AV’s system?

    Hard to say what would have happened in 2014 if that trade had not happened. We would have had center depth issues I guess. But maybe the MSL trade would not have been necessary and some other deal could have been made instead. We will never know. But all I know is, Gabby was a key factor in helping the Kings lift the Cup that year with the Rangers in the house to watch and wonder what might have been. Thanks Torts!

    9) When Nash stole the puck late in the game vs LA, raise your hand of you actually believed he would convert? If you are raising your hand, sorry, i don’t believe you. Man, that was a sniper’s goal. A Gabby-type goal! Boy do I miss having someone who can do that consistently. To me, it’s the biggest reason why we haven’t won it all. Alas, perhaps when Mika returns…..perhaps.

    10) Last point, per Brooksie the other day, time to “tear it down”? Come on! Aren’t we being a little premature? This team certainly has flaws, but so does probably 27 of the 31 teams. With McDonagh out for awhile, and now Mika, we still have not seen this team click on all cylinders. I want to see Mika return, hopefully he is fully healthy and able to play again at a high level. If so, that is an immediate major upgrade. There can be trades to fortify other areas. There seems to be improvement with our suspects (prospects) in Hartford. There is no reason to jump to any conclusions yet. The next two months will tell us what we need to know.

    A deep playoff run or a complete playoff miss. Both are equally possible.

    • James1090 says:

      I think your point on Gaborik is a good one. Since he was traded we haven’t had that true sniper on this team. That’s why i think Hoffman from Ottawa may be a player to look at. He’s got a great wrist shot and he’s a regular 20 goal scorer on a defense first team. I think he would be a nice addition to this team.

      As to the coaches. I think Tortorella was a good coach for the Rangers and the one that was needed at the time of his hiring. However his system when here wasn’t one i liked. His constant shortening of the bench by benching the 4th line and the bottom defense pair was bad. He still does this in Columbus. Every coach has flaws, Tortorella has his and AV has his.

      • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

        100% agree.

        BTW, on point one I meant to say “one out of four points”. My bad. And on point four, second paragraph, I obviously meant to say “Esa” not “Elsa”…..that was auto-corrects’ fault, although my daughter appreciates the “Frozen” reference 🙂

    • Richter1994 says:

      Welcome back bro.

      I don’t think that everyone was upset about the losses to the Stars and the Sens inasmuch as the “effort” that the Rangers gave in those games.

      The Stars’s game was a complete no show, other than Pav who stole a point.

      The Sens’ loss was to a team in disarray that had won one game in 10 before that night’s game against the Rangers. Joke of a loss.

      I thought of you when I was at the Stars’ and Kings’ games, for 2 reasons: Your coach put out DD for the shoot out and when the Kings’ game was still in doubt, your coach had both Holden and Staal out there as a pair to try and help save the game for the team.

      Both “decisions” pretty funny to me. So DD will go from top line and shoot out to healthy scratch when Zib comes back. 🙂

      • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

        No doubt….I agree it’s a bit odd. But it also shows in DD’s case how lacking we are in center depth at the moment. The options are not great right now. Then again, Pirri was a SO specialist but was scratched often. Shootout is a specialized skill.

        I also think you overblow the whole “who’s out there at the end stuff”. There are just way too many variables to analyze to make definitive right or wrong coaching judgments here. Who on the Rangers defense qualifies as a “defensive stalwart” who MUST be out there at the end? Staal and Holden have not been THAT bad. And who was out the shift before? And the shift before that? Every moment at the end matters, and you can’t always have it set up EXACTLY the way you might want. I suspect AV’s handling of this is NOT viewed as some bizarre thing in the real world—only in the blogosphere where we must nitpick every single move the coach makes to the exclusion of all the good things that are going on—much of which the coaching staff has something to do with and for some reason NEVER gets credit for.

        The Sens are the classic example of a team that has looked bad, but is not really THAT bad. They were due for a good effort. Hardly a joke of a loss. Just one of those days that happens to every single NHL team.

        Stars game was terrible, no doubt. But again, some days, sometimes, athletes just do not have it. It happens.