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Filip Chytil is……pretty good

July 27, 2017, by

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The Rangers swung for the fences when they drafted Filip Chytil at #21 overall this year. He’s just 17 years old and has already had success in the Czech leagues. But now that he’s playing in games that are being streamed, we are starting to see a bunch of gifs about his play.

That first move around the defenseman is just great. It’s been a long time since the Rangers have had someone of that skill level that can make the defense look like clowns. Chytil can do that already, and he can’t even legally buy a cigarette in this country yet.

That’s him burying the goal off the failed clear. Hockey awareness and a great shot to go with sick dangles.

Goes to the net and gets a back door feed.

Takes the puck off the boards from two opponents and created something out of nothing. He seems to be too good for kids his age.

Also just going to leave this here.

"Filip Chytil is......pretty good", 5 out of 5 based on 12 ratings.
Categories : Prospects

49 comments

  1. Richter1994 says:

    Very excited about both draft picks but Chytil does appear to have an elite potential skillset. Could be a steal of a pick.

    Think about it, what draft picks have we had that have elite skills other than the King? No one since Kovalev or Leetch. Tarasenko SHOULD have been that guy, but really no one lately.

    Hopefully that changes sooner than later.

    • Spozo says:

      Sadly I think the answer is Cherepanev.

      • Chris A says:

        Oof, Cherepanov would have been something else. I still remember how Jagr talked about the kid before he unfortunately passed away in Russia. He would have been a star.

        Buch isn’t too shabby in the skills and nifty mittens department. A scoring line of Buch/Andersson/Chytil in 2019-2020 is something to look forward to.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Yep, I agree Spozo, he was the real deal, even Jagr (who played with him in Russia) said it as well.

        RIP 🙁

    • Mintgecko says:

      I would say Hayes and JT still have the potential to become elite and remember Hayes has been playing center on the fly since day 1 and was drafted by Chicago in the 1st.

      • Spozo says:

        My issue with Hayes with saying that Hayes may become elite is that by the end of this season he will be 26. Unless he shows a huge improvement (really it’s consistency for him) then he most likely is what he is at this point.

        • mintgecko says:

          Consistency is the name of the game for him and from there the other variables that he needs to add to his overall game will make him elite. For starters him being consistent means he’ll average a little more than 60 points per season while being on the 2nd PP and 1st PK. He looks even leaner this off-season so he should be able to do what he did in his rookie season which was go coat to cost, escape ability and overall more speed near the boards. That stuff and the upgrade at D will benefit him the most. He’ll be catching so many outlet passes due to his IQ and ability to receive passes from wherever on the ice. More ice time and having the possibility of Nash, Buch or Zucc as his wingers will do him wonders. In the last 3 years no center on this team has come close to his quality of passes. His hands will allow for the goals to flood in.

          • Peter says:

            Agreed. The best Hayes has to offer is yet to come. A bit of a late bloomer, he has the skills and the IQ to become a very good center indeed.

      • Richter1994 says:

        Possibly, but they have a long way to go to be “elite.” They have good skillsets not great skillsets IMO.

      • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

        We always overrate our prospects. I remember the same things being said about Don Maloney, Doug Sulliman, Don Murdoch, Steve Vickers and Ron Duguay. All going to be elite. None of them ever were. More good but not great players in a franchise that have specialized in them forever.

        Miller MAY have a chance, simply because of his age and he still has room to grow. Hayes probably not. Kreider probably not. They all can be very good and are very good. They just aren’t that caliber of player, especially on a pass happy team that lacks true finishers.

        But hey, if it DOES happen, then look out.

        • Egelstein says:

          I feel like every organization’s fan-base overrates their higher-end prospects to some extent, to be fair. It’s natural to a degree, especially for those of us who have not seen our teams win the Cup in some time. Some of that can probably be simply chalked up to exaggerated amateur scouting reports floating around the interwebs, as well. For our fan base specifically, since we haven’t had many blue chip prospects in recent years (due in large part to Sather’s proclivity to trade high-round picks away for established names), we might be a little more susceptible to hopeful overrating of prospects than some other fan bases, though. I don’t think that’s entirely unreasonable to contend, looking at things objectively.

        • mintgecko says:

          Nope Hayes does imo. He can put up the consistent passes every season to really rack them up and I’m not even counting the secondary assist. I could see Hayes being a elite passer and a average low 20s goal scorer before I could ever see JT being a elite scorer.

        • Peter says:

          While Kreider is mercurial, I have to disagree on Hayes 3E. The kid really came on last year. I feel he will really break out next season.

          • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

            I hope you are right Peter, but I am concerned with the way he completely disappeared from mid-February on and through the playoffs. Can he handle a larger role with more responsibility matched up against the opposition’s best? I’m hopeful but not ready to buy in.

            I did see that he and Vesey are working out pretty intensively together this summer, so hopefully his conditioning issues from two years ago are behind him.

    • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

      To your point Richter, the draft has existed for over 50 years. In that time, the Rangers have drafted two truly elite players in the first round–Brad Park and Brian Leetch. They have NEVER drafted a truly GREAT forward. I don’t count Kovalev because he was too inconsistent and brainless for my tastes. Middleton was really, really good, but not an elite HOFer.

      We can rail on and on about AV and whatever, but until we have a truly elite player or two on the roster, it is REAL tough to win it all in the NHL without that. Otherwise, unless we make one of those special playoff runs (2012, 2014, 2015) where the whole was greater than the sum of its parts approach led us to deep runs, we will continue to be the bridesmaid team we’ve mostly been since black and white TV has been in vogue.

      Star power matters folks….we need some of it!

      • Rich S says:

        Not sure how we got Jean Ratelle, but he certainly could be in the elite discussion. Centered a great line, could pass, score, skate and defend. Will never forget a Saturday night game against toronto, Ratelle with his long reach, poking the puck away from a defense man skating in on the goalie and so gracefully and effortlessly lifting the puck over the goalies glove hand and into the back of the net.
        Wasnt Gene Carr supposed to be ‘the ‘guy!?

        • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

          Ratelle was clearly elite as was Gilbert. But the Rangers acquired them before the draft existed.

          And yes, Gene Carr was another “elite beast” that never panned out. 🙂

      • Richter1994 says:

        Based on pure talent and not results, Kovalev may be the most talented player the Rangers ever drafted. Again, based on pure talent.

        Leetch certainly qualifies. The King qualifies based on drafted Rangers. Other than that? Nyet as they say in Wantagh, lol.

        Off the top of my head, in no particular order:
        Gilbert
        Park
        Ratelle (drafted?)
        Leetch
        Zubov
        Kovalev
        Lundqvist
        Amonte?
        Weight?
        Middleton (ugh!!)

        • Rich S says:

          Terrific list Richter 94…..
          I would add Tomas Sandstrom for sure ….talent wise certainly above amonte and weight ……and Mike Ridley and Mike Richter to that list…..all had excellent careers, some of it with other teams!

        • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

          Good list Richter! As mentioned, Ratelle and Gilbert were acquired in 1960 I believe, which was pre-draft.

          It’s a pretty slim list. In fact, if someone had the time to analyze every team’s drafting over the past 50 years, the Rangers have to be among the worst in NHL history in terms of landing elite talent…maybe among the worst in any sport.

          The only time we did win it all was when the rules allowed us to raid a financially strapped Oilers team and assemble a team of superstars and past champions that collectively were as talented and mentally tough as any team I’ve ever seen.

          I submit that such a team could not be built today under the current set of rules, and indeed if the current rules were in place 25 years ago, our Cup drought would be 77 years and counting.

          AV, Clendening, McIlrath, etc., etc. All fun points to debate but totally meaningless in the overall scope of conversation when you have the lack of elite talent the Rangers possess, and have possessed for years now.

          • Richter1994 says:

            I guess Gilbert and Ratelle could be considered home grown though, no?

            Oh, our drafts were awful. How about in the 70s when we had like 2 of the top 15 draft picks and drafted Deblois and Duguay? Missing twice on Bossy?

            The awful drafting caused them to always trade and then sign FAs. Granted they don’t draft in the top 10 regularly but still.

            The good news is that the last few years will prove fruitful, IMO.

            • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

              You are right….we will consider them homegrown. I suspect though that back in the day of the six team league, Montreal probably had first dibs on Ratelle and Gilbert and simply blew those opportunities to land them. Either way, someone on the Rangers made the right call. 🙂

              And your analysis is dead on. Bad drafting leads to trades you dont want to make, and that;s what we’ve seen for the most part over the last 35 years or so.

        • Spozo says:

          Didn’t the Great One himself say Kovalev was the most talented player he ever played with?

          • Richter1994 says:

            You might be right my friend. Kovalev was that talented for sure. If he had Stepan’s smarts then he’s a HOF lock and top 10 NHL player, all-time.

            • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

              I was a fierce critic of Kovalev back in the day post-1994 post-season. Too inconsistent with awful hockey instincts. I remember arguing with a Kovalev supporter that if you could recreate one of those Bugs Bunny mad scientist episodes and somehow transfer Nemchinov’s brain into Kovalev’s body, you’d have arguably the best player in the league. 🙂

              • Richter1994 says:

                No question that if Alexei had the hockey smarts that he would have been a life long HOF Ranger.

                Zherdev, while not a HOF candidate, had some skills as well but was dumb as a stick.

        • Peter says:

          Hey Richter, I grew up in Massapequa, was lucky enough to date a couple of girls from Wantagh back in the day 😊

          • Richter1994 says:

            wow Peter. I grew up in Smithtown and moved to Wantagh in 1988 and been here ever since. When me and the Mrs. looked for a house we looked from Merrick to Massapequa and in betwixt. Nice area.

            If I see any of those women, I will say hello for you, lol.

        • Peter says:

          My brother and me used to sit in the Garden yelling at Kovalev ‘ALEXI PUT PUCK IN NET!’ “ALEXI GO TO NET!”

          He finally found himself after he left the Rangers and had some excellent years in Pittsburgh and Montreal. Ridiculously talented player who could have been legendary if he was a bit smarter or more focused or whatever. He still did have a good career in the end.

        • Bobby B says:

          Richter 1994, Spot on with the Kovalev comment, none other than the great Gretzky said he was the most talented player he ever played with. Too bad he really hit his stride after he was traded to the Pens.

          • Richter1994 says:

            Yeah Bobby, Kovalev was that good. Sick “hands” especially around the net. The difference between Kovalev and Jagr are the hockey smarts, but that’s it.

  2. Andy says:

    It’s hard to believe this kid is 17. He’s great to watch and looks like he could have a pretty high ceiling.

    • Reenavipul says:

      It’ll be a shame if he has to go to North Bay. He’ll get better handling from the player development staff here and probably put up a ton of points, but if he’s gonna get top 6 minutes in Zlin, then he should probably go back. Level of competition is better than the O, international breaks will get him more practice time with national team coaches beyond WJC.

    • Richter1994 says:

      Agree Andy. I’ve seen some clips and it appears like he has unreal instincts in addition to high end skill.

  3. Bloomer says:

    Czech hockey has really taken a step back the last decade. Maybe Filip represents a resurgence in their hockey program. Will be interesting watching him play in the World Junior tournament against some stiffer competition.

  4. gene4240 says:

    Sather traded away first round picks, Gorton obtaining them and stocking up the talent pool in the Ranger Organization…Already Gorton is making surpassing Sather as a better GM.

    • Eddie!Eddie!Eddie! says:

      I suspect that’s less about who is the “better” GM and more about the “circle of life” that is NHL draft pick management. Gorton has already said that when the opportunity is there to “go for it”, they will most certainly trade youth to win in the here and now if that’s what’s needed. He just won’t do it every year, nor should he.

      Sather made his mistakes for sure, but he is in the HOF and has rings. Gorton has made some nice moves and he should be applauded, but he has no hardware and I don’t think we should make reservations for his HOF induction anytime soon.

      The better GM historically, Sather vs Gorton, is Sather by a landslide.

      • Rich S says:

        3E , I cant rate sather so highly because any GM or coach having gretzkey, messier, coffey, kurri, anderson, tikannen, fuhr , lowe etc etc SHOULD win multiple cups…..I guess he gets credit, and deservedly so for not screwing anything up……..
        However when he had 15+ years with the rangers……and all the resources at his disposal, including excessive free agent money before the cap and he has NADA to show for it…….drafts were abysmal, trades some good [ mcdonagh] most bad [strallman, yandle, stepniak, e. stall…]..
        So far very happy with gorton……..except getting rid of solid RHD McIlrath…..

      • Egelstein says:

        I honestly don’t personally pay much attention to front office or even coaching accolades outside of championships – and I don’t mean this just for hockey, either. Any sport. IMO, these types of accolades are often prone to the “good ol’ boys” club members of the sport in question being favored over those who aren’t as well-connected or tenured, even if they deserved it more. This, of course, is not always the case…but I feel like it happens enough that such accolades should be taken with a grain of salt, for sure.

        • Richter1994 says:

          The NHL, especially the biased Canadian media, are brutal when it comes to some of the annual awards.

          #hottake: The NHL is not just about Canada any more.

      • Reenavipul says:

        Sather as GM in Edmonton breaks down to this: In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is King.

        With Sam Pollock gone, the NHL was back to who was the biggest brown noser/drinking buddy with the owner more often than not(Bill Torrey one of the few exceptions.)

      • Bloomer says:

        Reluctantly, I have to agree with Mr. Ed. Slats has the rings from the hockey dynasty he built in Edmonton. He also left behind a very good club in New York. Not an easy feat in a Salary Cap world.

        Perhaps his years playing for the legendary Cat in New York contributed to Sathers’ hockey prowess. Or maybe Slats just made the most of his passion for the game and turned it into a lifelong successful career.

        • Richter1994 says:

          Ironically, Sather operated better with a restricted budget rather than an unrestricted budget.

          He was brilliant with the cash strapped Oilers. I mean the 1990 Cup team was probably his greatest accomplishment because of all the young players on that team and it was post Gretzky. Messier had Graves and Joe Murphy as his wingers, both early 20 year olds at the time.

          Then after the cap was put in Sather did fairly well again.

          Unfortunately his “faux pas” was stating that he would win a lot of Cups if he had the Rangers’ budget to work with. LOL.