Should the Dustin Byfuglien deal change the Rangers’ approach with Keith Yandle?

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Through the end of January, it seemed to be a sure bet that the Rangers were going to trade Keith Yandle. The club has Ryan McDonagh and Marc Staal locked into long-term deals and have Brady Skjei –their 2012 1st round pick– knocking at the door. That’s a pretty crowded left side. Getting the most for Yandle, especially considering the cost, made the most sense.

Even before the season started, many wanted to keep Yandle and preferred to trade one of Staal or Dan Girardi. Yandle is one of the premier puck movers in the game, and both Staal and Girardi either were regressing prior to the season or have regressed since the season started. Either way, Yandle is a better option than both at the moment.

Now that the season is more than half over, we are seeing Yandle emerge as the best option on the blue line. He’s thrived in his recent usage (20+ minutes per game), and while he does make a gaffe here and there, the positives far outweigh the negatives.

Trading Yandle at the deadline represents a clear step back for this year’s club. Beyond that, it also represents a desire to hold on to both Staal and Girardi, despite their regressions and the changing landscape of what is expected from an NHL defenseman.

But more recently, trading Yandle now removes one of the few healthy defensemen from the lineup. McDonagh is out indefinitely with a concussion, and those are always tricky to gauge. Girardi has a fractured kneecap. Kevin Klein has a fractured thumb. That’s half the blue line.

Holding on to Yandle is also a risky proposition. The Washington Capitals are in a class of their own, and it looks like they will steamroll everyone in the Eastern Conference. Moreover, the Rangers have significant holes at forward and on the blue line that prevent them from being a true Stanley Cup contender. With minimal pieces to trade, it seems unlikely they can fill those holes for another run.

The best case scenario is holding on to Yandle and trading one of their aging, declining, and pricier defensemen to create room to re-sign him. However this seems to also be the least likely scenario.

There are rumblings that the Rangers fully intend to hold on to Yandle through the deadline. Those rumblings came before Dustin Byfuglien re-upped in Winnipeg, taking the best defenseman off the market. Yandle can and will fetch a premium –think first round pick and one young stud prospect or young NHL ready player– at the deadline if he’s dangled. He’s not only the best available defenseman, but the only game-changer available.

This is not a favorable position for new GM Jeff Gorton. On one hand, he has the best puck moving defenseman the organization has had since Brian Leetch, the only one capable of keeping some of the declining players afloat. On the other, he’s got an expiring asset that holds significant return value. This one decision could define Gorton’s GM career with the Rangers less than one year after it began.

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57 thoughts on “Should the Dustin Byfuglien deal change the Rangers’ approach with Keith Yandle?

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 11:36 am
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    Phaneuf just got traded to Ottawa.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:02 pm
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      And The Leafs did not retain salary….or so I am reading….

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:08 pm
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        Amazing, plenty of cap room for Stamkos now. Within division deals are rare, Babcock obviously thought Hunwick was better than Dion…

        • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:54 pm
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          Good point on Stamkos. Don’t really agree with the Hunwick point though. Phaneuf is the better NHL defensemen. His cap makes him unfavorable to have on your roster, thus the trade.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 1:42 pm
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      Brilliant move by Toronto. Gives hope that if Phaneuf’s $7M(!!!) cap hit can be traded, so can Staal or Girardi’s. It feels as though management doesn’t see it this way, and that’s the real problem.

      • Feb 10, 2016 at 10:06 am
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        While the AAV is $7mm, Phaneuf’s actual salary drops off a cliff the last few years. If Ottawa has to buy him out, the cash buyout will be less than the dead money. The team is nowhere near the upper limit, so doesn’t effect them.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:06 pm
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    Yeah. This all works if you don’t need to resign a player that won’t. I wouldn’t. Mismanaged , first pair player on the third line most of the season.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:41 pm
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    Didn’t Yandle’s agent already decline to discuss an extension with the Rangers? Or I s that just a negotiating tactic?

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:43 pm
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    Am very torn here. The obvious answer is 1) trade Staal 2) keep and sign Yandle 3) roll a left side of McDonagh, Yandle, Skjei next yr.

    Given that Staal most likely won’t be going anywhere and our current cap situation, I don’t think it’s conceivable to pay Yandle 6 mil. Your left side alone would cost you 4.7 + 5.7 + 6 (est) = 16.4 m or 23% of a 71 million dollar cap. That just doesn’t work.

    Couple that with the fact that a return to the SCF is highly unlikely, and the actual value that Yandle does still have, and it seems like you HAVE to move him before the deadline.

    To be honest, I would be surprised to see him dealt. I don’t think that ‘waving the white flag’ on this year’s cup run would be looked at favorably by management.

    It is a sad state of affairs indeed.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:42 pm
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      Hatrick, you got my vote as GM of all trades, your post makes perfect sense. I hope Gorton looks at this site, it will open his eyes!!

      • Feb 10, 2016 at 8:17 am
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        Thanks Bobby! If that ever happened, I’d bring you on my team of scouts…… nailing McIlrath’s readiness out of the gate this year was impressive. I needed him to show me before I believed. You didn’t need that luxury.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 12:52 pm
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    Dave,

    This is such a difficult situation.

    If he doesn’t get resigned and we don’t win the cup and he walks away- It sucks!

    How often have we seen a player in his situation that re-up mid year? Not too many right? This is what players in his situation look for there whole careers. This is their one opportunity to have the league and their respective teams by the balls. So I truly can’t hold it against him if he decides to wait for the offseason…. It’s their right.

    I don’t think we’d have been as nervous about it if we were playing a bit better and we were more confident of our chances going forward, because then, our thinking would be…. “Well, there’s a very good chance we will end up in the finals and if we win, it won’t hurt as much if he left in the off-season. However, we didn’t anticipate some of the other players to play lackluster Hockey thus far, so now his worth and stock has risen in our minds furthermore especially, since we don’t know when Truck is going to be back.

    God this sucks!

    For the past 8,9,10 years it’s been my dream to have Yandle on this club, but on that same token, I was so so high on the Duke and damn Don Maloney for asking so much for him to be had. Damnit Don, you’re supposed to help your own team, with a lil help to your original team and organization lol!

    Tough, tough situation!

    I’m lost on this one.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 2:05 pm
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      You know my preference. I want them to re-sign him and trade Staal or Girardi.

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 2:41 pm
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        imo they both have to go. wo boyle next year its mcd klein mcilrath,yandle,skjei.

        • Feb 9, 2016 at 2:45 pm
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          sorry left out FA with $ available, Like maybe Shats.

        • Feb 9, 2016 at 2:54 pm
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          It’s highly improbable that Staal is going anywhere, given his NMC. And unless the unthinkable happens, McDonagh will be back next year too. So those two LH D slots are a given.

          That leaves one lefty defense position to fill. The answer to how you fill it is really simple, yet not simple. Or at least not clear to us. How good is Skjei and Graves, and what are their REAL upside, not the hopeful “we love our prospects so much that we will overrate them in hopes they will lead us to the promised land” upside? None of us know that.

          What hasn’t been talked about much is that both Skjei and Graves are both lefties. Graves made the AHL all-star team. Skjei has been billed as the next McDonagh. So is one of them possible trade bait at the deadline? Seems like a real possibility, if they are actually perceived as future pieces. Do you hold onto at least one, see if you can move other assets to re-sign Yandle (Boyle gone, maybe deal Klein), and then trade the one you didn’t trade at the deadline over the summer IF you can re-sign Yandle?

          I believe Yandle wants to stay. I believe that, ideally, the Rangers want him to stay. I also believe the Rangers will NOT bail on this season unless they thoroughly unravel these next three weeks. I do not agree, and I don’t think the Rangers believe, that they can’t make a strong post season run this season. So much depends on whether or not McDonagh and Nash come back, and come back healthy. And, what kind of trades are out there prior to the deadline.

          My prediction…Yandle is a Ranger as of March 1st. They will deal with the summer at that time.

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 5:31 pm
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        agree, at least he can skate!!!!!!!!!

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 5:32 pm
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        I have to agree, at least he can skate well!!!!!!!!!

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 1:18 pm
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    I personally blame the Canadian dollar for this predicament the Rangers are in. If their dollar didn’t completely tank, the salary cap would be $2-3 million higher than what it is now. I mean, that wouldn’t necessarily give the Rangers a lot more wiggle room, but it would definitely make it easier to make a deal. It also sucks that the cap isn’t going to move up significantly anytime soon.

    I hate that the Rangers are going to have to bite the bullet on Yandle. I’d love if he took a bit of a pay cut to stick around, but he’d be throwing away millions of dollars if he did, so for that I can’t blame him.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 1:44 pm
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      Blame the NHL for not hedging their exposure (they collect Canadian dollars from fans in Canada, but report HRR in American dollars), rather than the CND for depreciating relative to the USD. The USD has appreciated relative to practically every currency largely due to QE.

      Regardless, an unfortunate situation for teams operating close to the cap.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 1:40 pm
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    “Moreover, the Rangers have significant holes at forward and on the blue line that prevent them from being a true Stanley Cup contender.”

    – Until they rid themselves of one or both of Staal and Girardi, this team will not be a contender for the Cup. But until management figures this out, it doesn’t matter what happens to Yandle.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 2:18 pm
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    McDonagh showed up at practice today, but not sure if that’s a positive sign or not. Still day to day.

    Nash won’t play for at least the next two games….possibly even the next three. I’m worried. Visions of Teixiera are dancing in my head. Let’s hope there isn’t more to this.

    No additional defenseman will be recalled.

    While we expect Hank to be in tomorrow, AV is saying Raanta soon will be playing once per week to give Hank a rest. With the defense playing better now, this is reasonable. Probably will depend on where the Rangers are in the standings.

    Did anyone see the Pat Leonard column on the Hayes/AV controversy? The key take away paragraph…..

    “But if the second year center’s reprehensible early-season habits warranted his coach’s harsh criticism and constructive scratches, Hayes encouraging response to that unfamiliar and uncomfortable situation seems to reflect a lesson learned as well as maturity in understanding the expectations of an NHL player.”

    Now, Leonard is a guy who covers the Rangers and sees every practice. The operative word here is “reprehensible”. Pretty strong word. Yes, AV may have regretted coming down on the kid because obviously, he genuinely likes him. But what’s wrong with teaching a young player a lesson–a two game lesson–when the behavior was obviously as bad as both Leonard, Carp and others observed?

    Yet, we had two very smart people out here who I respect, among many others, just tarring and feathering the coach for dealing with a problem that was obvious to anyone who watched practice. One of my favorite debating buddies out here said the coach “ruined” Hayes. The other called AV a “coward” for choosing to deal with Hayes in that manner. I doubt seriously anyone associated with the team, or who closely covers the team, would in anyway agree with those very over the top assessments.

    It’s more than perfectly reasonable for a coach to correct bad behavior. More than that, it’s a mandate for the coach to address the problem. If anything, AV should be criticized for waiting as long as he did to address it.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 4:19 pm
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      Funny you mention Teixeira…I was thinking the same thing. Hopefully Nash is not as brittle as Tex.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:34 pm
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      Eddie, concussions are serious issues for athletes in any physical sport. Hockey is a very physical sport. Look no further than our own Jeff Buekaboom thanks to Matt Johnson, his sucker punch ended Jeff’s career. It turned Rick Nash from a very good all around player, into a very good finesse player. Either way it will effect how McD handles the physical part of his game, if and when he returns?.. Thanks Wayne Simmonds, hope you get pay back in spades.

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:42 pm
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        100% agree. And who knows what might have happened if Michael Sauer hadn’t been concussed. He was a physical, stay at home defensemen. Maybe he would have been the final ingredient in the the last two Cup runs. He gets concussed, and he never returns.

        Scary, scary stuff.

        This is one of those times when I’m going to borrow one of your lines…..Simmonds had best have his head on a swivel on Sunday, because the Undertaker is coming for him!!

        (that being said……if I’m AV, I’m also saying, Dylan, do NOT do anything stupid and get suspended. We are short handed and can’t afford to lose you for any length of time!).

        Can we at least agree on that Bobby…a compromise?! 🙂

        • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:47 pm
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          Eddie, You got a deal! My bad, I failed to mention Sauer in my post. The guy was just beginning to show his all star potential and just like that its over. Sad!!

        • Feb 10, 2016 at 10:09 am
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          Sauer(along with the Lindros bros) is a great example of the potential that certain people are predisposed to having exaggerated effect from concussion. His whole family had to stop sports because of debilitating concussion effects.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 3:19 pm
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    If the decision just comes down to money, I think history has taught us, Yandle will be dealt. That being said, it would be a defining moment for Gorton. If they are serious about making a real, strong run this year, then it is imperative that they get back something that will help them in that regard, or at least cover up for the loss of a Yandle. Maybe a top flight scorer? if you can’t keep the puck out of your own net—maybe you try and fill up the other net. I still do not value Yandle as highly as others do here, but that’s what makes horse races. As for Hayes, if they are trying to bring in some talented scorer, they are gonna’ have to sacrifice somebody—a piece of their youth. He just might be the guy. Looking at whats out there—–I keep coming back to Eric Staal.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 4:22 pm
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      Eric Staal has 9 goals this year and is 31 yrs old. His cap hit is $8.25M and he is unrestricted.

      No offense Joe but would you really trade a young guy with a controllable contract like Hayes for a 31 yr old guy who could walk at the end of the season?

      Personally I always thought that Eric was a good strong player but I believe his better days are now well behind him.

      The best scenario I can see for the Rangers is that someone picks up Eric at a reasonable price as a free agent and they still have the cap room to afford Mark and the we can make a trade so these two can close out their careers with each other

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 5:44 pm
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        agree with your assessment of the older Staal, and the suggestion that we trade Marc, so he and his brother can ride out to pasture together!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 9:45 pm
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        I didn’t say I would do it. But if Gorton is feeling the pressure to win now—he just might. I think they have been disappointed as an organization in Hayes’ progression. Yes, hes played better—but if they feel they need that proven veteran presence who has a pedigree—they’re going to have to give up something. Again, i would trade Hayes for the right guy—but not so sure that Staal is that guy. But every day he isn’t signed by Carolina, he becomes a possibility to be dealt—not just to the Rangers, but to a whole host of teams.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 3:36 pm
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    It is delusional to believe the rangers are Stanley cup contenders. With or without yandle they will be lucky to get out of the first round.
    There is no way the rangers can compete with the caps or lightning
    With byfuglien signed yandle should get a top prospect and a first round pick
    if thats offered its a no brainer

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 3:42 pm
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    After seeing Byfuglien get $8M my only question is who is going to save these owners from themselves. Sure he’s good – really good – but $8M??

    The future is all about the cap and to see this deal and know the cap is going to flatten just seems crazy.

    I would have said earlier to try and dump Yandle but either I or he has come around and I see him as someone whose skills are not going to deteriorate as fast as Girard’s or STALL’s (if Yandle stays healthy). However he is going to be 30 and it starts to get risky at that point.

    But the only way to sign him is to dump one of the other two and that is going to be difficult – See: Salary Cap Flattening

    If he does not go at the deadline and then leaves as UFA – it is going to suck big time and hopefully it will be the last time we do that kind of thing.

    With Big Buf getting $8M someone is going to pay Yandle $6.5 – $7M and I think that is too rich for our blood. I think the best move is to get a good package of a high pick and young can’t-miss stud and close the door on it.

    By the way we may as well plan for the next NHL work stoppage. With the cap flattening the owners will at some point realize that they cannot pay these prices and field a team. My guess is the RFA contract values are going to start tanking because there is not really any other place the owners have any significant leverage. History shows there won’t be much offer sheet activity because of the compensation and all the teams will be in Cap Jail anyway.

    At that point the players start screaming “collusion” and away we go….

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 5:54 pm
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      Do you realize that if they give Yandle $6.5-7 mil, how much more he will get than McD?????? He is nowhere worth more than the captain, and his defensive play is still questionable at best.

      The guy plays a high risk, high reward game, that can backfire on you real quickly. Please refer to last night’s game, we control 58 minutes, Yandle does that stupid spin-a-rama move, they score, and the team has all the pressure on them for the remainder of the game. Sorry, I would trade him quickly, and get as much return as we can for him. Let’s also not forget what he is being paid now, almost $6 mil, he will want at least that, plus some. AMF Keith, you are history in my book!!!!!

      • Feb 10, 2016 at 8:21 am
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        The reason McDonnagh’s caphit is less is because he signed that as an RFA and had little leverage. From the start everyone pretty much knew it would be a deal which benefited the org. When this one expires and McD is ready to resign, he’s looking at 7 mil plus.

        Both players cap hits affect the team the same way, so they’re often compared, but in reality it’s like comparing apples and oranges.

        • Feb 10, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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          The obvious question is:

          Is Yandle worth $6.5-7 mil a year????????

          I say no way, I would never pay him that kind of money!!!!!!!!!

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 4:03 pm
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    Yandle still has to be moved if the GM thinks we can’t resign him AND keep Stall/Girardi. He has no choice.

    What he can do, however is either use Yandle to bring back a top 20 pick – or – pick up a legit offensive rental that can give us 3 legitimate scoring line threats. If it is rental for rental, should we sacrifice Yandle’s defense for another’s offense? I actually think if we go with our 6 (McIlvaine in) with someone like Skjel or Diaz as the 7th D, we would be okay. If we add a (Eric Stall or Andrew Ladd) for the final 2 months, it may be enough to push us over the hump.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 4:54 pm
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    This last game shows us that the Rangers have 3 good lines. The 4th line is still in question. An assault on common sense.
    Did anyone hear AV’s comments on the non enforcement of the penalty. I am not talking about what he said but how he said it. I perceive a problem.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 5:45 pm
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    The mismanagement of the Rangers defensive unit this year both from utilization, as well as cap management is astounding. That there are defenders of the braintrust, both in the fan base, but also amongst the demented beat writers (yes you Leonard) saddens me deeply. Over the past couple of years we have been repeatedly given get out of jail free cards (Stralman is a 1st pairing defenseman on an elite team and is lightyears better than Girardi; Hunwick is a second pairing defenseman for sure and is far superior to Staal; to McIlrath this year who cannot get icetime over a guy who never could skate but now has a fractured kneecap), and the braintrust has consistently decided to reject these gifts from God, and pay for past performance with not only horrific contracts that tie up our cap space, but also NMCs.

    I am of the opinion that the Rangers should move both Girardi and Staal (if Phaneuff can be traded with his bigger cap hit, then so can these two guys); if the management cannot do so, then the Rangers need to buy out their onerous contracts. Both players are at best third pairing defensemen right now, who are somehow playing 20+ minutes (and sometimes they are sent out together!). Both players are poor skaters with limited ability to distribute the puck, yet are asked to play in a system that highlights those very weaknesses. The fact that the team has the third best record in the east despite the amount of icetime Girardi/Staal get, and that we have two AHL level players on our fourth line (with a declining Moore), is astounding. It also speaks to how many games Lundqvist stole earlier this year (and somehow people are ok with AV consistently ripping him).

    It is imperative to resign Yandle. It is imperative that Yandle plays more on the PP. It is imperative that the Rangers’ braintrust wake up and stop blowing our championship window with Lundqvist (which they probably already have).

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:00 pm
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      you had me until you said re-sign Yandle, then you lost me……….he is worth way more on the trade market!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Feb 9, 2016 at 6:34 pm
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        Our team is bereft of defensemen who can skate and pass the puck. AV plays a system that highlights transition and quick decisions. Yandle is a player who is ideal for this team, yet the organization is content to give him minimal power play minutes (despite the fact that by some measures he is scoring at the highest power play rate of his career), and hide him on the third pair.

        So I will respectfully disagree and again state if the Rangers believe they are contenders, then they must sign this player. There is nobody in our system who can replace him, and teams never part with such talents. I could see him going to Toronto in the off-season as they smartly rebuild their team (as opposed to our braintrust that thinks bringing in Girardi’s best friend, Paille, will solidify the PK).

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 7:14 pm
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    1: You let Yandle walk (if looking good for playoffs)or deal for a pick 3 years from now to a win now team(if not) and play him as #1LD until McDonagh returns.
    2: You bring up Skjei and/or Graves as the #3 LD
    3: Look to try and reunite the Staal boys over the Summer.
    4: Bring up the other D left on the farm.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 9:27 pm
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    The decision whether or not to move Yandle depends on what the Rangers could get for him. If a club is willing to pony up a roster player, prospect and draft pick, I think they should move him. One team I think could really use the services of Yandle are the Panthers They have plenty of young talent to dangle and lots of cap room to sign Keith in the off season.

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 9:47 pm
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      If they deal him, it will probably be out west. LA comes to mind.

  • Feb 9, 2016 at 11:28 pm
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    What an absolute shame that his career ended on that one hit. Still can’t believe it. He was such a solid, strong and young defenseman.

    I hate that Phaneuf!

    • Feb 9, 2016 at 11:50 pm
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      Michael Sauer was a solid dman who finally got his break in the NHL with the Rangers. He paid his dues and never had a chance to reap the benefits of his hard work and dedication to the game.

  • Feb 10, 2016 at 6:46 am
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    The Rangers shouldn’t trade Yandle before or after the Buff trade. Bad NMCs get moved as the Phaneuf trade proves once again, and the Leafs took back zero cap space. Brilliant trade by the Leafs who will now make a run for their homeboy Stamkos. Leafs can have another homeboy in Girardi.

    If the Rangers trade Yandle then they might as well blow it up as they will be much worse after the trade as before it. Not the way to go into the playoffs.

    • Feb 10, 2016 at 1:43 pm
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      Phanuef agreed to waive his NMC because Toronto stinks and will stink for a long time. The Rangers are nowhere near that situation. What exactly would motivate Girardi or Staal to waive their NMC/NTC?

      • Feb 10, 2016 at 7:54 pm
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        Exactly right. The whole idea that Staal or Girardi would agree to waive their NMC is a reach at best.

      • Feb 11, 2016 at 7:11 am
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        Point taken, but the real question is would Gorton even ask them to waive? That’s my issue. Because if Gorton thinks these 2 are the D men they were years ago then the point is moot and the Rangers will not be Cup contenders because the GM would be as delusional as the coach and do something stupid like trade Yandle, resulting in a worse team to make their playoff run.

        Plus, I don’t know that players stay around if they know they are not wanted. Gabby waived his too, right?

        • Feb 11, 2016 at 7:45 am
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          Point taken back at ya!

          From everything I can gather, especially when the question had been posed to the writers who cover the team, they say not only is there no chance the players want to leave, but there is no chance the Rangers want them to leave. The reasons….

          1) they believe that the players are NOT in a steep or permanent decline. These are two players who have played a lot of hockey these past few years against some of the best players in the league in tough playoff grinds, who are coming off surgeries and didn’t have their usual off-season training regimen. They are both rounding into form the past month (and terrific last night shutting down Crosby), and the Rangers have every reason to believe that a normal off season will allow these guys to bounce back next season.

          The thing I don’t understand about some people on this blog is the notion that once a veteran player struggles, that’s it, they’re done, time to bail on the player and the season. Last season at this time, these guys were part of a defense widely considered to be the best in the business. Yes, they were awful to start this season. But players do slump in every sport. And performance trends are not linear. These guys are 29 and 31 yo. It’s not like they are Boyle’s age. I think many talent evaluators would believe that, more likely than not, that both players will be substantially better next season, especially if, in the worst case scenario, the team does not have a long playoff run again.

          2) what are you going to get for them? Certainly not a piece that is going to help you win now. Probably not cap relief in any significant way. If you are convinced they are done, then likely so is the rest of the league. So you’d dump them and get back whatever you can? That’s the kind of deal the Leafs would make for sure. Not a team that’s second in their division.

          3) Gabby and Torts did not get along. Torts really put the screws to him and wanted him out. That’s the only reason he was willing to leave. By all accounts, AV runs a good room, the players genuinely like each other and get along well. I can’t see a scenario where either would want to leave this team. If Torts were still the coach, then maybe.

          • Feb 12, 2016 at 6:34 am
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            You sound like an old time fan as I am. I have been a Ranger fan since 1965 and I have seen the metamorphosis of the league since then until now. Today’s NHL is 100% about skill and speed. You cannot play (effectively) in this league unless you can skate, at least a little bit. And as a team, like or not, possession is important. Look at the recent Cup winners, the Hawks and the Kings, both good possession teams. The 2013-14 Ranger team was a very good possession team and they made it to the SCF. So did TB last year. It’s not a coincidence.

            With the above being the starting point, you have 3 skating anchors on D: G, Staal, and Boyle. These 3 are old, beat up, a byproduct of injuries and wear and tear. They can’t skate any more for their own various reasons. While G and Boyle are playing better they still can’t keep up. The get roasted by opponents’ speed consistently. Staal? Man is he bad. The first 10 minutes of the Wild game was probably one of the worst I saw a player play as his first 3 shifts were: give up a goal, take a penalty, and almost give up another goal. Awful.

            And the REALLY bad part? The coach says that Dylan is not better than any of them. What? Really? I was not a Dylan fan at all but he has won me over. Not a great skater by any means but his positioning is pretty good and makes up for average skating, so he should be playing every game, if it means that he plays for an alternating G and Boyle, then so be it.

            Next, trade Yandle? One of the few Ranger D men that can excel in this NHL? LOL. Talk about taking a bad situation and making it 100 times worse. The second the Rangers trade Yandle, and I don’t care who it’s for, the Rangers might as well give up their Cup dreams for this year because they would be dead in the water as far as their D corps go.

            So the bottom line is this D corps cannot compete against the better offensive teams. Don’t be fooled by the 3-0 Pitts game. The King was spectacular as the Pens totally out chanced the Rangers and had the puck for 2/3rds of the game. If the Rangers played like that on a regular basis then how many games do they win? Not many.

  • Feb 10, 2016 at 11:28 am
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    Good article, but it stated the obvious.

    Bottom line is Yandle holds all the cards.
    I do not even want risk of he says one thing, and I gotta hope he lives up to it.

    On top of that, someone will overpay.
    These are the points I wish were mentioned/highlighted above.

    NY simply cannot accept risk of no return.

    If Dallas, Honka and Gurianov
    if Boston, Jimmy Hayes and a pick

    • Feb 10, 2016 at 7:57 pm
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      I have no problem losing Yandle for nothing. You traded for two years of having a $5.2 mil defenseman at half the cost, and two tries at winning the Cup. Hopefully, there is a way to sign him but if not, then lots of cap space is freed up between the departures of Boyle and Yandle….$7 mil in fact. That can be reinvested for other needs.

      No way the Rangers should trade Yandle unless they are either offered the moon, or they unravel and fall out of the race.

      • Feb 11, 2016 at 7:30 am
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        nothing personal, but I’m glad you aren’t our GM!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Feb 11, 2016 at 7:50 am
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          Nothing personal taken. I’m glad I’m not our GM either. 🙂

          But the reality is that as long as the Rangers are contending, they are NOT going to trade Yandle unless the return helps them now, or unless other deals are made to offset the loss. Ths team is NOT in rebuild mode, much as you seem to want them to be.

          Darren Dreger said it last night. No chance Yandle is dealt as long as McDonagh is out. That’s the philosophy of a team that’s playing to win now.

  • Feb 10, 2016 at 4:01 pm
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    Normally its us who would be overpaying for a guy like Yandle but for once we are in the right spot to get BACK 1-2 young guys I can only hope we don’t blow this and the only reason I think we might not is because hopefully sather is off doing something anything that will keep him out of the way, PLEASE GOD!!!

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