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Carcillo deserves an extension

Photo by Scott Levy/NHLI via Getty Images

Photo by Scott Levy/NHLI via Getty Images

It almost sounds strange to say, but Daniel Carcillo has been a welcomed addition to the New York Rangers hockey club. Once public enemy #1 after smacking the bejesus out of Marian Gaborik, Carcillo has brought some sandpaper to an otherwise vanilla team.

Back in December, before Sather traded for Carcillo, I wrote the Rangers needed to acquire a player with some grit to their game. Since his acquisition, the Rangers seem to have a different dynamic. Given, a lot has clicked since those dog days of winter, but Carcillo’s game shouldn’t be undersold.

He’s been good on the forecheck, he’s drawn more penalties than he’s taken, and he’s 4th on the team in hits per game. Most importantly, Carcillo has avoided the box. He has only 8 minors this season. Continuing this narrative will be important come playoff time when bottom six players always seem to grab the spotlight.

From a cost perspective, guys like Carcillo aren’t very expensive. This season he’ll be hitting free agency at age 29 coming off a two year $825k (per year) deal. Another one or two year contract with perhaps a $100-200k raise would be a low risk signing for a guy who has brought more to the table than Taylor Pyatt, Arron Asham, Stu Bickel, etc.

Aside from money, when you look up and down our roster, there isn’t a lot of grit. Dorsett is obviously our #1 grinder, but his injury history is extensive. You need someone else on the roster who can go hard when called upon.

The only other forwards in the entire org who even play that type of game are Kyle Beach and Michael Haley, but neither can be counted on as full time NHLers, especially considering our 4th line takes on the bulk of the defensive responsibility. Carcillo has more than held his own in that regard.

He may not sell as many jerseys as Avery once did, or have as many Twitter followers as Paul Bissonnette, but Carcillo has an important job on this club. And as my boy John Tortorella once told a fellow 4th liner, “if you do your job, you’re gonna love it here.”

Maybe it’s about time the Garden faithful return the favor and give some love back to Carcillo, because he has done his job here, and he’s done it effectively.

26 Responses to “Carcillo deserves an extension”

  1. Seahorse says:

    I think hes a lot smarter than people give him credit for

  2. Dave says:

    I’m not sold on a multi-year deal for Carcillo. He has been much better than anticipated, and well worth that 7th rounder he cost. But Asham got 2/$1m per season and that didn’t really work out that well.

  3. Old Fogey says:

    Given his reputation around the league, he’s been an absolute surprise in his present incarnation. He’s done everything that’s been asked of him with minimal mistakes and unexpected savvy. Last night, he filled in on the first line equal to or better than other, ostensibly more talented, wingers have done.

    Agreed, for 100-200K more, definitely worth it!

  4. Leatherneckinlv says:

    I think I will like Carcillo on the top line during the playoff against the Flyers, Bruins or Penguins, two of which we would meet if we are to go deep until Kreider comes back. Leave the 3rd line as is with Zuccarello, Brassard and Pouliot. 4th line has been awesome and that goal last night by them should have counted. That 4th line is also peaking at the right time.
    My only concern is if St Louis does not get his butt in gear tha AV may tinker with the lines to get him going. AV please don’t do that. Hags, Richards and St Louis should stay intact and have the trio work out St Louis scoring problems.
    On a note it just might be Karma at work with St Louis….lol He really screwed Yzerman and the Lightning with his prima donna stance

    • Walt says:

      No he didn’t, he screwed us. It cost us at least one #1 pick, plus something else, don’t recall. We got it up the tail pipe, without KY jelly!!!!!

  5. Chris F says:

    So are we looking to keep all four 4th liners?

    I see no reason to get rid of Boyle, Moore, or Dorsett, so would Carcillo be a extra forward?

    And, I’m puzzled. Everyone seems to be ecstatic about Carcillo’s play on the 1st line last night.

    As far as I see it, he wasn’t a liability. Nothing more. Is this the standard we are now applying for top-6 minutes?

    Playing Carcillo on the top line throughout the playoffs is a sure way to make an early exit.

    Think about it folks. Is Chicago moving Bollig or Bickle up to slot in for Kane? Not a chance.

    • The Suit says:

      Depending on costs, I’d keep Carcillo and Moore. Boyle I’m on fence. I appreciate what he brings to the team but I dont think he’s worth much more than what he makes now. Dorse is locked up another year, so he’s not going anywhere. Doesn’t hurt to have 4 solid guys who can play on the 4th line. Keeping this group intact makes sense to me.

      Carcillo on the 1st line isn’t a long-term solution. Obviously AV still doesn’t trust Miller, so it is what it is.

      • Chris F says:

        Ok, if not a long-term solution then when does this experiment end?

        When does someone else slot in to the top-6 to replace Kreider –assuming Miller is now in the dog-house?

        What’s your ideal line-up, Suit, with Kreider out?

        • The Suit says:

          I like Miller in that spot, but obviously coach is seeing something that I’m not. But you know me man, I don’t get my briefs in a bunch over line tinkering and combos. Think I’ve been pretty consistent with that over the years.

          • HARLEMBLUES says:

            J.T. Miller is -6 at the moment and that’s what Coach sees.He’s not quite ready at the moment.Things could change and he is the future and that could be now or just later.BR is minus5 for those who want to keep his superstar salary on the books.Is Lindberg ready.

      • Puck Luck @Centerman21 says:

        I agree. Boyle May price himself out of NY. For what he does he may get Prust type money from someone around the NHL in need of PK help. There’s probably 15 teams that may find Boyle to be desireable.

      • HARLEMBLUES says:

        Boyle will price his self out of NYC.If Carcillo plays and stays smart sign him 2yrs at a fair price.To many players have used this team for a big pay day and only one group has delivered.One group of guys 1 and it wasn’t about money.Yes they got paid but it wasn’t about money.

  6. Dave says:

    There’s a bit of a logjam at forward. We have these three 4th liners, Dorsett, and Lindberg. Something has to give.

    I like Carcillo’s play, but Dorsett is the better player. Lindberg and Moore play similar styles, and I think Boyle needs to stay (one of the best 4th liners in the game).

    Cost drives this of course.

  7. Puck Luck @Centerman21 says:

    When it was 1st reported that Sather acquired Carcillo, many thought of the days he played in Philly. I personally thought it was a great signing. Since playing here, he’s surpassed my expectations for him. I thought we’d have to live with the occasional stupid penalty. He’s not only controlled himself but he’s gotten on with his career and played hockey very effectively. He scored the game winner in the outdoor game against the Islanders at Yankee Stadium. That was when I felt he was here to stay. I agree he should be resigned. He’s built a report with his teammates. I look at the Bruins & Hawks of the NHL as model franchises and they have as little turn over from year to year as possible. Sather needs to keep most of this team together so they can learn to play together. Rather than bringing in 6-8 new players every year. That begins with guys that have earned it like Carcillo.

    • The Suit says:

      Agreed

      • Puck Luck @Centerman21 says:

        I would just like to see most if not all of this team return. Obviously many variables at play when humans start pricing themselves and lawyers look to get paid as well. Some players may price themselves out of NY. For what it’s worth, we have a solid group here that has come together to form a team effort. It seems to me they’re having fun and there’s a good dynamic in the locker room. I’d want as little turnover as possible. Sorry to repeat myself but the best teams have played together for 3-4+ years now with some kids filling in when needed. I’d like to see the Rangers add some size to the prospect pool so they have some big kids ready to step in. I always felt there’s less risk with larger players. Less chance of injuries and they can usually fill in on bottom 6 if offense never develops. These tiny forwards are 1 trick offensive players and if they fail to develop they become a waste. Thomas-Borque. I hope this Duclair kid pans out because he’s a small kid. As is Buchnevich.

  8. Snake says:

    It’s time to start calling it The Dominant Moore line rather then the 4th line. All four of the forwards have been contributed. All earned a place on the team. Without them and a reliable backup goalie in Cam Talbot the Rangers would likely be daydreaming about golf rather then a run at the Cup.

    I’m a master of the obvious. :D

  9. Joestradamus says:

    My favorite Carcillo moment was when the Rangers were gassed and iced the puck. He purposely broke his stick to stall the puck drop. There were a few other instances where he played some heads up hockey after the whistle.

  10. Frank Cerbone says:

    Personally like Tanner Glass a UFA who is much more physical,tougher, very efficient in hits.fights versus PM. If Glass can come in at
    a $1 mil price tag, Glass is a better option.

    Glass has some history with Vigneault.

  11. Andy says:

    NO ONE runs anyone on the Ranger team when Carcillo is on the ice… hasn’t anyone noticed that? He is FIRST into the scrum and with his reputation amongst the players of having no fear and being “just a little” crazy he makes the opposing forward think twice about runing Henrik.

  12. mattimar says:

    I would keep him but as i have been posting they need bigger guys than Dorsett or Carcillo.

  13. Frank Cerbone says:

    Carcillo is a pest not a fighter.
    Carcillo is not a deterent to any opposing team’s tough guys.

    Tanner Glass & Deryk Engelland both UFAs are guys that opposing teams have problems with.

    Glass is only 6-0, 195, but he is an underrated puncher who is challenged a lot, but his opponents usually leave the ice with some kind of cut or other.

    Engelland is just Engelland, ask Colton Orr.