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The obligatory post addressing the Ryan Kesler rumors

Hooray rumors.

Hooray rumors.

For those that missed it last night, Vancouver center Ryan Kesler has reportedly requested a trade from the Canucks. Within minutes, there was buzz for a Kesler/Ryan Callahan swap. It’s natural, I guess, to assume that a deal could work out between the two sides, but there are way too many road blocks that would prevent a deal from happening.

First and foremost: Ryan Kesler has a no-trade clause, and had a big falling out with Alain┬áVigneault before AV departed Vancouver. Since AV is the head coach here in New York, it’s unlikely Kesler would waive his NTC to come play under the same coach.

Along the same lines, Cally and John Tortorella –now the head coach in Vancouver– don’t have the same relationship they once did (rumored). It is believed that Cally did not stick up for Torts prior to his surprise firing in May. The Cally/Torts situation is more speculation than anything though.

On paper, Kesler is the better player in almost every major category, both #fancy and #regular. Kesler is a better offensive producer, despite facing tougher competition and fewer starts in the offensive zone. Throw in that Kesler is signed for the next two seasons at a very reasonable rate ($5 million cap hit), and you have a lopsided deal for the Rangers.

Since Cally is headed to unrestricted free agency, he would be a pure rental for the Canucks. From their point of view, the deal makes no sense. Slats would need to add –and add a significant piece– to land Kesler.

For now, a Kesler for Cally swap doesn’t make sense for the Canucks.

17 Responses to “The obligatory post addressing the Ryan Kesler rumors”

  1. Chris F says:

    Thanks for clarifying. I just posted about this 15 minutes ago on the previous thread.

    Didn’t realize the bad blood between AV and Kesler when I posted. I was questioning whether a reunion for both players with their previous coaches might be enough to get a straight swap deal done.

    I guess we can scratch that idea.

  2. Walt says:

    Good thought, and it would be worth the trade, but that is all academic after all!! Must be a slow day in Rangerland……

  3. Mark says:

    I think this trade makes mroe sense then the St. Louis trade…

    I can see this being the center piece of something bigger… Torts loved Cally… Kessler fills the need we have for a #1 Center…

    They could defintiely add to get this deal done… Alex Edler is someone they have dangled and tried to get rid of his cap hit… He is also an offensive minded D man… The Rangers could look to get both these guys and sweeten the deal from the Canucks while not hindering our playoff chances…

    I think they will get a deal done with Girardi, but they could ship both guys to the Canucks for them and then Vancouver would probably need to sweeten the pot for us…

    Or a McClrath and a pick or something…

    I would not just toss this rumor to the side… they are teams in different conferences that just swapped head coaches… Vigneault seems less then impressed with Callahan and probabyl loved Kessler… and everyone knows Torts loved Cally…

    Not saying that it has much traction but I think it has more then an obligatory post and that St. Louis rumor of a few days ago

  4. Mark says:

    Just followed up on the fall out… so probably not going to happen, but he would be a great fit…

  5. Tim B says:

    Cally and a 2nd or 3rd rounder and maybe a prospect to land Kesler would seem reasonable to me

  6. Chris F says:

    The rumor mill is that Boston and Pittsburgh are in an arms race to acquire Kesler. Neither is prepared to see the other land Kesler, so both my be willing to overpay.

    That would certainly put the Rangers out of contention as they probably wouldn’t offer more than Callahan + Pick/Prospect.

  7. paulronty says:

    Let me be the first to say that I am extremely disappointed with Ryan Callahan. He & his agent’s demands re way out of line & I thought that he was a guy who was not consumed with ego & realistic about his ability, He says he wants to be a Ranger but won’t accept % mil over 5 years. Once again it’s all about making more than your worth. Then trade him to the Sabres who apparently think his demands are OK. Kesler is a better player & he’s in at 5 mil, so Cally is deluded.

  8. The Suit says:

    If Dustin Brown is worth 47M over 8 years as a 29 year old, Horton 37M over 7 years as a 28 year old and Clarkson 37M over 7 years as a 29 year old, you’d have to assume Callahan could get 40M over 7 years as a 29 year old easily.

    That’s not greed on Ryan’s part. That’s the market.

    • Spozo says:

      I can’t stand the greedy, egotistical, and selfish insults being thrown at these guys. None of us will ever be in a position to tell our current boss “I would like the be paid X amount of dollars which will be enough money to live very happily for the rest of my life. If you don’t want to commit to that then I will go somewhere else and get paid that if not more. There will be 5-10 other potential bosses who will give me a video presentation about why they think I should accept their 40+ million dollars instead of accepting someone else’s.”

      • Walt says:

        I agree with you except there are GM who will pay for his given skill set, that you, and I don’t have. Ther lies the difference my friend!!!!

      • paulronty says:

        Exactly, so if 5 mil is not enough, then move his ass elsewhere where he can get 7 mil. I love Cally but if Mac can do a deal quickly for less than 5 mil because he really wants to be a Ranger, then Cally can do the same. If money is more important–see ya! The same thing happened with Prust and I didn’t shed a tear over him either because hasn’t worth 2’5 mil. The Rangers have signed enough dumb contracts to last me a lifetime. No more.

    • Jude says:

      Take clarkson out and the other two are much better players than cally. Oh the they also have something he doesn’t… A cup. Look you may love cally but be realistic about his value. I love the guy but it’s right there in front of your eyes. He is not better the brown not better then Kessler not better then Backes not better then Horton but just as injury prone.

      • The Suit says:

        Except Kesler signed his contract four years ago, Backes three years ago when the cap was not going to be $80M. If they were free agents this July 1st, they’d get even more than Cally.

        • Jude says:

          And brown signed in June as did pavelski who is worlds better. We get it you love the captain but your still thinking with your heart not your head

        • Jude says:

          Also what’s your point? These guys signed pre lock out so cally should get way less then right ?