The time is now for Chris Kreider

October 21, 2013, by
Kreider would be best served with big minutes in the AHL


Chris Kreider returns to the Rangers at a very interesting time. Our new “offensive system” has generated 1.57 goals per game. Three of our top players are injured. And when Taylor “Life Of” Pyatt is 2nd among forwards in ice time, as he was last night, you can understand some of the negative sentiment percolating this fan base. Although it’s only been 7 games, something has to give.

Enter Kreider, who scored 5 goals and 7 points in 18 games upon joining the league during the 2012 playoffs, but has since scored 5 points in 31 regular season games while being shuffled back and forth between the AHL and the Show. And while it’s certainly debatable Rangers brass has mismanaged the kid a little bit, that can certainly become the prologue in this story if he finally sticks in the top 6 of this lineup.

Right now the Rangers really have no choice but to give Kreider top 6 minutes and hope he grabs it. At some point Richie is either going to run out of gas, or defenses are going to start doubling him. Someone else has to step up and start finding twine. His 4 points in 6 games at Hartford this season lends some hope.

Kreider’s scouting report says he is supposed to be that guy, but I haven’t seen anything that really resembles his scouting report in his young career. He was supposed to be a power forward, someone who uses his (listed) 6’3 frame to protect the puck and get after it on the forecheck. Yet, all we have seen at this point is a perimeter player, who has occasionally converted on transition rushes. He needs to bring more than that if he wants to avoid I-84.

I’m not looking for him to excel in all three zones off the bat, but he certainly has to make an effort in all three zones. I’m certainly not expecting for him to pop a point per game either, but he can only help his cause by bringing more offense to the table than Taylor Pyatt, who by some stroke of miracle is his competition for the top LW spot.

Of course, sometimes one needs to be put in a position to succeed in order to have success. Hopefully AV gives Kreider more faceoffs in the offensive zone than he is currently giving JT Miller and Jesper Fast. Both of whom are getting a minority of their zone starts in the offensive zone (after a whistle) since their respective recalls.

Hopefully Kreider can get going and show us that his potential will start to intersect with his performance. After all, with the injuries we have, there isn’t anyone else.


  1. AD says:

    It has NOTHING to do with Kreider “grabbing” the opportunity. He needs to be placed in a role where he can develop, and not be expected to be an offensive saviour. That calls for 3rd line minutes on a consistent basis over half the season.

    The Rangers are in the process of keeping this player’s development bottled up because they are not developing him. They are yanking him around and then telling him to immediately produce like a top 3 forward, or go back to the AHL.
    This is how a clown develops a prospect.

    And here is another wakeup call: AV is not a good coach when it comes to developing prospects.

    The best thing for Kreider would be to get traded from this organization this season.

  2. The Suit says:

    No one is expecting Kreider to be a savior. I’m just expecting to see more than what he’s shown thus far. A little more forechecking, good gaps in the neutral zone, hits, scoring chances, just an overall sense of hunger would go a long way for me.

    Plenty of players have been shuttled back and forth between the NHL and the AHL and overcame it. He’ll have to as well.

    • Puck Luck (@Centerman21) says:

      Hey the kid seems to be pretty resilient. Nothing fazes him. He has all the tools. It’s just time to put them to work at the pro level. People that watched him in Hartford say he looked confident. Was protecting the puck with his size and driving to the net. Hopefully the Hartford coaches worked with him on the things he needs to do consistently in the NHL to be successful.

  3. Bloomer says:

    Kreider has the god gifted talent to become a very good hockey player. He just need to play with a little more snarl. If he choses not too, he will just be another could of been.

  4. Walt says:


    You hit the nail on the head, he really never showed any hunger, maybe because he didn’t ubderstand the system, but the kid looked a bit like a fish out of water.

    I read, and don’t recall where, that the team is quietly shopping him around, and I would hope that isn’t the case.

    What I’d like to see him develope is a pair, he seems a bit timid for a guy that big, and strong. Or is that the way they are coached at Boston College, Boyle anyone????? He really has all the tools, speed, size, shot to be a great power forward, but he may need some additional motivation!!! Let’s hope Chris grabs the bull by the horn, and rides it to where he belongs, as in king of the hill.

    • The Suit says:

      You read correctly. Bruce Garroich of the Sun said they were shopping him, who is about 0-1 million when it comes to trade rumors.

  5. TxRanger says:

    Honestly, there’s that rumor going around that the team is shopping him. I think he might just be here so NHL teams can have another look at him. I think he along with someone else gets moved for a top 6 player.

    • Scully says:

      Either way, it’d behoove him to produce like a top-6 player in the meantime. I’m a big Kreider fan though. I think he winds up sticking and not getting traded any time soon.

  6. Scully says:

    This is off topic, but did anyone see Maxim Lapierre destroy Dan Boyle’s world last night? #NHLStreetJustice

    • Dave says:

      Lapierre got 5 games, right?

      • Scully says:

        Yup. I mean, i don’t really condone either Boyle’s hit given or received, but it’s nice to know (in a way) he’ll be out while Nash is also out.

  7. Dave says:

    At this point, I think they need to give Kreider the 70% OZ starts that Richards is getting. Limits the amount of DZ time, and hopefully builds his confidence.

  8. Rangers Rock says:

    You are right Kreider looked like a fish out of water. Now the whole team looks that way so he should fit right in. The coach hates young kids.We have a couple more young kids waiting.

  9. Dave says:

    Weren’t you supposed to write about the PP this week, like you said last week?


  10. Frank Cerbone says:

    Yup, Kreider looked just great down at Hartford- ZERO EVEN STRENGTH GOALS & WAS A MINUS ONE

    Kristo has 7 pts, +2 down at Hartford.

    Mashinter has 5 pts, more than Kreider & was a +2.

    Ottowa Sun reporting Rangers actively shopping Kreider & no longer consider him a top prospect

    • Walt says:


      They are also reporting that the Rangers are will to part with all the players mentioned, for Hodgson! This should make you happy.

      • TxRanger says:

        I dont know about this, AV gave him limited ice time in Vancouver, why would he want him now?

        • Walt says:

          Exactly, that is the point, it will never happen, and Frank always brings up that clowns name. Thanks Tex.

  11. AD says:

    So, Kreider will be on our top line w/Stepan and Richards.

    This is straight out of the book titled: How Not To Develop Prospects.

    • The Suit says:

      Disagree. Our top line gets the vast majority of their faceoffs in the offensive zone. This puts Kreider in a position to work on his offense and not have to worry about dzone coverage as much.

      If the kid can start to generate points than he’ll avoid the taxi back to Hartford.

    • bernmeister says:

      I agree.
      As clear as clear can be, the most complementary couple is the duo of Kreider at LW w/ Miller at C, they feed of each other’s speed. Add Cally when healthy, or otherwise, including for the time being, Fast.


      speed kills

      That’s AVs system
      that’s the ticket.

  12. paulronty says:

    I’ve always thought that Rangers should switch Kreider to cente. He’s a great skater who could get in on the forecheck & punish the D because when he hits people they go down. They should also design plays to chip the puck up to him or hit him with a long pass when he’s breaking, sort of like DZ did with Gabby. If on the wing I liked him with Nash & Stepan.

    • bernmeister says:

      There is nothing wrong w/seeing if he can’t first be a premium scoring W, but I agree that once he is comfortable enough, after a year or so, giving him a few minutes here and there at pivot would be smart. He would be even more valuable to us if, a la Patrick Sharp, he could switch those two readily.

      I hear dissertations about how playing C works vs his speed since usually it is the C looking to set up the W.

      My opinion is, without running into a board, Kreider’s speed would be even more dominating. He has experience at C, though admittedly it’s not NHL calibre. Still should be considered.

  13. Forever 1994 says:

    Some of you guys are actually fans? All this team needs is to get rid of Kreider like the way we did with Rick Middleton. For those of you who are to young, we basically traded a young guy jerked around by the organization to the Bruins for a washed up Ken Hodge. From what I’ve read I guess most of you would like that. The same fans would keep giving Pyatt and Zucc top minutes. Not only are we smaller but we are playing smaller. I think we need to promote/keep some of the young guys and get rid of the non-performers.

    • TxRanger says:

      no one is saying they want him moved, but it is becoming more and more apparent that the team is shopping him. thats all.

      • Walt says:

        Not so sure of that being the case. People put out garbage, and for some reason this Kreider kids name came up again with the garbage being put out there. He will be a Ranger for years to come.

        Forever 1994
        Can’t ever forget that trade, so they could skate Espo, Hodge, and Cashman again, which turned out to be a disaster.