Poll: Working out a trade for Evander Kane

Photo: Bruce Fedyck, US Presswire

Photo: Bruce Fedyck, US Presswire

Following up on our post last week regarding the Evander Kane “trade rumor”, I decided to see what a Winnipeg Jets blogger would want in exchange for Kane. I reached out to Arctic Ice Hockey for a few reasons, but mostly because they are Jets bloggers who are very familiar with advanced metrics. After all, that blog used to be the BTN blog before the Thrashers moved to Winnipeg.

Let’s start with what Kane is. He is one of the very few 20-year old 30-goal scorers. The list of players who have accomplished the feat is rather short and filled with big names, of which most are Hall of Fame caliber players. The one notable exception is Eric Daze, but he’s the exception to the rule.

When I initially wrote about Kane, I mentioned that the cost would likely start at a young roster player, a top prospect, and a pick. When speaking with AIH (full conversation here), we agreed that the quality of the players would really drive the cost. For the Rangers, I started off with Carl Hagelin (scoring LW who plays solid defense), Brady Skjei (top prospect), and a first round pick (theoretical, as we are aware the Rangers don’t have one this year). It’s an offer that I believe to be on the low side, and AIH agreed.

After some back-and-forth about the price, we agreed in principle that a deal without Chris Kreider, Derek Stepan, or J.T. Miller would require another prospect going to Winnipeg. The package settled on was Hagelin, Skjei, and Christian Thomas and a pick for Kane and Paul Postma. Postma is their #2 defensive prospect, but at the age of 23 still has some defensive flaws to work out.

Once the discussion led to a second top prospect from the Rangers’ system heading to Winnipeg, the package coming back had to include more than just Kane. Postma is a guy that, for Winnipeg, fits the bill of a “plus” in a trade discussion.

So to summarize the deal:

To NYR: Evander Kane, Paul Postma
To WIN: Carl Hagelin, Brady Skjei, Christian Thomas, 1st round pick

29 Responses to “Poll: Working out a trade for Evander Kane”

  1. cw says:

    That isn’t gonna get it done. Carl Hagelin and 3 iffy prospects. Start at Kreider +

  2. cw says:

    …and frankly, Kreider is probably a coach-able version of E. Kane anyway. A model citizen. Torts will rip Kane to pieces.

  3. Sally says:

    Well, this is not on topic, but I want to thank you guys for showing up everyday and trying to keep the”hockey spirit” alive. Happy Holidays to you all!

  4. Walt says:

    I’d make that trade, but I would have major reservations because of the guys character flaw!!!!

  5. joe says:

    How come every time a guy is rumoured to be available, we have to start sacrificing our future in imaginary trades? I know it passes the time during the lockout, but it is a step backwards. Lets keep our future and let them play, before we start trading them for guys with very questionable character issues.

    • The Suit says:

      Or we can relax on the cynicism Joe and embrace the spirit of the discussion.

      Good move reaching out to Jets bloggers, we should do that more often in trade rumors.

      I’d make that trade any day of the week.

      • wwpd says:

        agreed, this was a really good exercise, great idea.

        and yes to this trade all day.

    • Dave says:

      Don’t quite see how trading for a 21 year old 30 goal scorer is a move backwards.

  6. Seahorse says:

    Kane for a guy playing on the third line, a prospect which is still just a prospect with no guarantee of the future, thomas: who i’m still not sold on, and a hopefully late 1st round pick. I’d do it all day

    • Dave says:

      Remember that like Dubi/Anisimov, Hagelin is just a third line guy on this team. On Winnipeg, he’s a top-six forward.

  7. Dave says:

    Just a question: Would you guys be comfortable with, say Kreider/1st for Kane?

    • The Suit says:

      For me, it depends on the validity of these rumors and how adaptable Kane really is. Talent can wilt under the lights in this town very easily when they dont have it right between the ears.

      • Dave says:

        I wonder if that character thing is overblown. Lawless is one thing, but those reports that he was out of shape in the KHL, which I had forgotten about, are something entirely different.

    • MBN says:

      No.

      I am still convinced that Kreider will be a top line guy, in the Nash mode, or close to it. A real power forward. I don’t trade those guys.

  8. Dave says:

    I’m actually a little bit surprised by the number of people voting no on this poll. What part of that proposal do you not like?

    • Cole says:

      I think that at this point we have a decent amount of scoring on our top two lines. In trading a defensive prospect, we are getting increasingly thin past the rangers roster (see connecticut’s issues) and I think we need to keep some of our stronger defensive forward type players. Hagelin I think hasn’t reached his full potential yet which makes it seem like we are giving up too much.

  9. rob sahm says:

    if you really think about it we dont need kane . but i agree you are not getting kane for hagelen and skeij. maybe kreider or stepan or del zotto

  10. Jess says:

    Totally poor idea of a trade. For starters you are going 2 straight years without a 1st round pick during a time when the talent is out there.

    Second Kane doesn’t even come close to playing the Tortorella system. So you are offering basically 2 first round picks for a player who will not fit in with the current Ranger system.

  11. Tim B says:

    For Kane I would trade
    2 2nd round picks, Ryan Bourque and maybe and Christian Thomas. (Only include Bourque if the GM asks for more.)

  12. Chris F says:

    BSB~

    Any word when the 24/7 Road to the Winter Classic DVD is going to be available?

  13. rickyrants13 says:

    Says we should be talking more about what we can do as fans to get this sport back on the Ice. Because if this lockout goes on any longer there will be no NY Rangers. We as fans and you that blog about it have way more power then we do. Need to start putting pressure on the NHL owners to fire Bettman get back to the table and get this thing done. Where are the rally’s Where are the Sports shows??? Why is everyone just sitting around and doing NOTHING??? Talking about trades to teams that arent even gonna be around if we dont get this thing fixed Does us no good at all…

    • Dave says:

      If I had the power to end the lockout, don’t you think I would have used it by now?

      • rickyrants13 says:

        Thats just it Dave you do have the power You guys run a blog. You can start rallys. In front of NHL places and offices That let the NHL know that if they dont get this fixed we are not gonna take it very well. We as fans have to send them a message that they are not going to get our money anymore

  14. TxRanger says:

    I voted no, but I do know that Evander, like the person he’s named after, can fight. So maybe that plus the scoring isn’t such a bad idea.