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Rangers Interested In Souray? Doubtful.

October 2, 2010, by

Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal is reporting that Rangers scout Doug Risebrough has been scouting the Oilers for the past four games. Naturally, Jim has speculated that the Rangers are interested in Sheldon Souray, who does not have a place in Edmonton any more:

The New York Rangers are likely interested in Souray after dumping Wade Redden’s $6.5-million salary, and not just because Doug Risebrough, their pro scout, has seen the Oilers play four straight games.

The part that doesn’t make sense is that if the Rangers are watching the Oilers for four straight preseason games, games in which Souray has not played, where is the connection between Souray and the Rangers? The Rangers can’t be scouting Souray, he’s not on the ice. Plus, unless the Rangers trade some salary to the Oilers (Todd White comes to mind), then the Rangers can’t fit Souray under the cap at the current moment. It is tough to believe that the Rangers are interested in an oft-injured and past his prime defenseman who simply can’t play defense anymore. What is easier to believe is that the Rangers are interested in someone else on the Oilers roster, someone who has played in preseason games.

The logic here is also very flawed. The Rangers waived Redden, so clearly they need another veteran defenseman, right? If anything, the Rangers have proved to us this preseason that they don’t need another defenseman. They have three kids ready to play in the NHL in Ryan McDonagh, Mike Sauer, Pavel Valentenko to a lesser extent. Why bring on an aging, over priced defenseman? If the Rangers want to keep someone who clears bodies in the crease and has a booming shot, they would keep Valentenko, who is almost $5 million cheaper. They waived Redden because they needed cap space, but yet they are going to take on another $5.4 million contract? It just doesn’t add up.

Naturally, there is going to be the discussion of trading Michal Rozsival straight up for Souray. Souray and his 0.5 GVT, straight up for Rozsival and his 5.6 GVT. Souray and his inability to play defense, straight up for Rozsival and his pretty good defensive play (4.2 DGVT). In fact, Souray’s offensive value is the single most overrated stat in hockey. His OGVT is 0.9, which is less than Rozival’s at 1.4. Not to mention that Souray’s cap hit is $400,000 more than Rozsival’s, and the annual salary is $2 million more over the remaining two years. Again, the logic just doesn’t make sense. The only logical explanation is that the Rangers are simply interested in someone else, and not Souray.


  1. RangerSmurf says:

    One flaw..using only last year’s GVT for the argument.

    What you can focus on is that over the last 4 years, Souray’s DGVT is 0.9, 0.6, 3.7, -0.4, compared to Rozsival’s 6.5, 7.3, 6.8, 4.6

    In Souray’s good years, his OGVT was much better than anything Rozsival has done, but the total picture says the only thing Souray does appreciably better is beat stuff up.

    • Dave says:

      So you’re still proving my point that he sucks defensively. He would get the boo birds right away.

  2. The Suit says:

    This is just a classic case of a writer making shit up to see papers or get hits…

  3. The Suit says:

    *sell papers 🙂

  4. Dave says:

    I’d do Rosi/Dubi for Souray/Eberle in a heartbeat. I mean, while everyone is doing baseless speculation.

  5. Dig Deep says:

    Well said. “In fact, Souray’s offensive value is the single most overrated stat in hockey. His OGVT is 0.9, which is less than Rozival’s at 1.4.” Is a damning stat for Souray. He would be such a tremendous gamble and that is IF he puts up the offensive numbers he did two years ago. As George said he is miserable in his own end of the ice… there is little to justify the Rangers’ supposed interest in him. I don’t get why the Rangers would want him when they have the luxury of playing 1 of 3 great, young defensemen that are NHL ready.

    • Dave says:

      It’s just baseless speculation. It seems to be the common theme in pro sports media. If there’s a big name with an expensive contract, link them to a NY team.

      • Dig Deep says:

        What a dreadful theme. Have to understand it given the Rangers history in the last 15-20 years of bringing in big names with ridiculous contracts but I think this move would be a step in the wrong direction for the club. The Islanders or Bluejackets will likely scoop him up. He’d be a very big gamble with little to no upside for all of his deficiencies.

  6. John says:

    The rangers aren’t taking on a big contract, they would be responsible four half his contract which even with Todd white on the roster they’d still be able to accommodate him. They’d only take 2.7 million and salary of 2.25 million. It’s also highly disputed that mcdonagh, sauer, valentenko are readyfor the NHL. Theyve played ok in the preseason with preseason being the key word. The competition has not been steady nhl games and if they havent exceled against preseason competition han it cannot be aaid theyre ready for full nhl duty.They haven’t stood out in such a way that there’s no question they’re ready. It would be beneficial for two of them to play 25 plus mins a night in hartford than be rushed to playoffs. It’s unrealistic to imagine two rookie defenseman being paired with one another for the entire season. Thats a recipe for disaster

  7. John says:

    If some stuff sounds like giberish it’s because of autocorrect on this stupid iphonr

  8. Fotiu is God says:

    Yeah, but have any of you posters seen Souray’s babe?…

    Woe. I mean, we need to usher in the post Carol Alt era, don’t we?